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Re: 1/700 armoured cruiser HrMs Holland 1898 |
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Hi Michel, seems as if I have to be more active on this forum - it won't let me use the communicationsystem, aaaarr.... could You please send me a short mail to my private adress couchkollaps (a) web.de, I'll answer asap. Thanks for Your nice answer! To show You what I am planning (and to assure that all kinds of plans are highly appreciated) here's some sample photos - wargaming miniatures in 1/6000 scale: Hoche:  Chaoyung:  Sachsen:  Have a good day! Christian. Hi Michel,
seems as if I have to be more active on this forum - it won't let me use the communicationsystem, aaaarr.... could You please send me a short mail to my private adress couchkollaps (a) web.de, I'll answer asap.
Thanks for Your nice answer! To show You what I am planning (and to assure that all kinds of plans are highly appreciated) here's some sample photos - wargaming miniatures in 1/6000 scale:
Hoche:
[img]http://s8.postimg.org/6gta1ug7p/1_Hoche.jpg[/img]
Chaoyung:
[img]http://s8.postimg.org/5tudcbjbp/1_Chaoyung.jpg[/img]
Sachsen:
[img]http://s8.postimg.org/wdmyegjv9/1_Sachsen.jpg[/img]
Have a good day!
Christian.
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:46 am |
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Hi Christian, my apologies for not replying earlier: I might have missed your question entirely had I not browsed this forum beyond the first page! But thanks for your interest. The plans for both the Hr.Ms. Holland and the Sumatra were found in the book mentioned in the build thread: "Nederlandsche Zeemacht, Pantserschepen, Pantserdekschepen, Monitors". They were quite basic but seemed to work well. Today - it's been six years already - I would do a better job, I hope. The Sumatra never went beyond that one photograph and was discarded. Drop me an email/private message - use the button under this post - and I can get you some more info. Cheers, Michel Christian Reber wrote: Hi Michel,
I found this old thread, and I'm fascinated by Your skills and the subjects You chose to build. I very much enjoyed reading it!
could You please tell me a source for plans of Hr. Ms. Sumatra and Hr. Ms. Holland? i'm building at a very small scale, so every size is highly recommended!
Tanks a lot!
Christian Hi Christian,
my apologies for not replying earlier: I might have missed your question entirely had I not browsed this forum beyond the first page! But thanks for your interest.
The plans for both the Hr.Ms. Holland and the Sumatra were found in the book mentioned in the build thread: "Nederlandsche Zeemacht, Pantserschepen, Pantserdekschepen, Monitors". They were quite basic but seemed to work well. Today - it's been six years already - I would do a better job, I hope. The Sumatra never went beyond that one photograph and was discarded.
Drop me an email/private message - use the button under this post - and I can get you some more info.
Cheers,
Michel
[quote="Christian Reber"]Hi Michel,
I found this old thread, and I'm fascinated by Your skills and the subjects You chose to build. I very much enjoyed reading it!
could You please tell me a source for plans of Hr. Ms. Sumatra and Hr. Ms. Holland? i'm building at a very small scale, so every size is highly recommended!
Tanks a lot!
Christian[/quote]
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 7:37 am |
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Hi Michel,
I found this old thread, and I'm fascinated by Your skills and the subjects You chose to build. I very much enjoyed reading it!
could You please tell me a source for plans of Hr. Ms. Sumatra and Hr. Ms. Holland? i'm building at a very small scale, so every size is highly recommended!
Tanks a lot!
Christian
Hi Michel,
I found this old thread, and I'm fascinated by Your skills and the subjects You chose to build. I very much enjoyed reading it!
could You please tell me a source for plans of Hr. Ms. Sumatra and Hr. Ms. Holland? i'm building at a very small scale, so every size is highly recommended!
Tanks a lot!
Christian
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:52 am |
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I've submitted her to the gallery! That means the end for this scratchbuilding thread, which will now happily drop down the list into the archives.
Thanks for all the support!
I've submitted her to the gallery! That means the end for this scratchbuilding thread, which will now happily drop down the list into the archives.
Thanks for all the support!
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:06 am |
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Hey guys, thanks for the replies. I really wasn't bashing myself or anything, as I said I'm very fond of how she turned out to be. I was just listing the things I would do better next time (see the USS San Fransisco - I easily did four times as much sanding and filling on the hull). Perhaps I said it wrong.
Hey guys, thanks for the replies. I really wasn't bashing myself or anything, as I said I'm very fond of how she turned out to be. I was just listing the things I would do better next time (see the USS San Fransisco - I easily did four times as much sanding and filling on the hull). Perhaps I said it wrong.
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:39 am |
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Michel
I really like it and as Dino says, white is not an easy colour to use so don't be hard on yourself
Mike
Michel
I really like it and as Dino says, white is not an easy colour to use so don't be hard on yourself
Mike
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:39 pm |
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I agree, it came out looking nice. I find that digital pics can really scare the heck out of you.
I agree, it came out looking nice. I find that digital pics can really scare the heck out of you.
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:01 pm |
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Yes she certainly looks good. You shouldn't be disappointed, the ship is much smaller than on the pictures I guess and you always see roughness and errors on pictures, yet the real model certainly looks very good for its size. A first try can never be perfect as you know! Excellent job, I love those rare subjects of yours! 
Indeed Revell white leaves a pretty rough surface. I've noticed that on my Queen Mary II and Excel... Yes she certainly looks good. You shouldn't be disappointed, the ship is much smaller than on the pictures I guess and you always see roughness and errors on pictures, yet the real model certainly looks very good for its size. A first try can never be perfect as you know! Excellent job, I love those rare subjects of yours! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Indeed Revell white leaves a pretty rough surface. I've noticed that on my Queen Mary II and Excel...
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:42 pm |
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Dino not logged wrote: Michel, I think you can be happy, The subject is rare and very nice. The overall look is good, and white isn't so easy to be used The amount of small details add a lot of realism Just a bit of rigging, some figures and a good water base and the beauty will be at home! Dino I agree with Dino. I really like the job you've made of this and it's been interesting to follow it.
Cheers,
Rob [quote="Dino not logged"]Michel, I think you can be happy,
The subject is rare and very nice.
The overall look is good, and white isn't so easy to be used :thumbs_up_1:
The amount of small details add a lot of realism
Just a bit of rigging, some figures and a good water base and the beauty will be at home!
Dino[/quote]
I agree with Dino. I really like the job you've made of this and it's been interesting to follow it.
Cheers,
Rob
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:43 am |
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Michel, I think you can be happy,
The subject is rare and very nice.
The overall look is good, and white isn't so easy to be used
The amount of small details add a lot of realism
Just a bit of rigging, some figures and a good water base and the beauty will be at home!
Dino Michel, I think you can be happy,
The subject is rare and very nice.
The overall look is good, and white isn't so easy to be used :thumbs_up_1:
The amount of small details add a lot of realism
Just a bit of rigging, some figures and a good water base and the beauty will be at home!
Dino
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:16 am |
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Hr.Ms. Holland is now 99% complete. Some paint touch-ups remain to be done. Pictures taken while anti-fouling red is still wet!
Close-up of stern...
...and bow.
Mayor gripes about this model:
Hull is not smooth enough. No decent consistent portholes. Revell White leaves rough texture. Masts are not in a historically correct configuration. (there never were any fighting tops, only in design stage). Very rough feel overall.
But hey, it's my first cruiser-sized scratchbuild - and I love the old tub anyway!Hr.Ms. Holland is now 99% complete. Some paint touch-ups remain to be done. Pictures taken while anti-fouling red is still wet!
[img]http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/MichelB/pk19.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/MichelB/pk20.JPG[/img]
Close-up of stern...
[img]http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/MichelB/pk21.JPG[/img]
...and bow.
[img]http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/MichelB/pk22.JPG[/img]
Mayor gripes about this model:
Hull is not smooth enough. No decent consistent portholes. Revell White leaves rough texture. Masts are not in a historically correct configuration. (there never were any fighting tops, only in design stage). Very rough feel overall.
But hey, it's my first cruiser-sized scratchbuild - [b]and I love the old tub anyway![/b]
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:16 am |
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Pretty little vessel, I look forward to the final touches! Pretty little vessel, I look forward to the final touches! :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:47 pm |
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Finally, some work on the foredeck. Chain, railing, anchors, anchor hoists. This area still needs: gilded crest, anchor chains, pole with flag, some portholes perhaps...
 Finally, some work on the foredeck. Chain, railing, anchors, anchor hoists. This area still needs: gilded crest, anchor chains, pole with flag, some portholes perhaps...
[img]http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/MichelB/pk18.JPG[/img]
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:49 am |
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Superb scratch Michel
:lol_spit_1: :lol_spit_1: :lol_spit_1:
Jef :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:00 pm |
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maxim wrote: She is becoming really a nice Pantserdeckschepen!  But there is also the usual message for the scratch builder: HP Models announced kits of two ships of this class: Gelderland and Nordbrabant. They also announced the AA battery version of Gelderland, Niobe. Also the coast defence ships/armoured cruisers (Pantserschepen) Jacob van Heemskerck (also as AA German battery Undine), Hertog Hendrik (also as AA battery Ariadne) and De Ruyter are announced. Good news for fans of Dutch ships. Right now I don't know wether to hate or to love HP Models.  maxim wrote: But scratch building is the crown of ship modelling!
That's right! [quote="maxim"]She is becoming really a nice Pantserdeckschepen! :good_job:
But there is also the usual message for the scratch builder: HP Models announced kits of two ships of this class: Gelderland and Nordbrabant. They also announced the AA battery version of Gelderland, Niobe. Also the coast defence ships/armoured cruisers (Pantserschepen) Jacob van Heemskerck (also as AA German battery Undine), Hertog Hendrik (also as AA battery Ariadne) and De Ruyter are announced. Good news for fans of Dutch ships. [/quote]
Right now I don't know wether to hate or to love HP Models. :big_grin:
[quote="maxim"]
But scratch building is the crown of ship modelling![/quote]
That's right!
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:55 pm |
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Very nice Michel!
Dino
Very nice Michel!
Dino
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:52 pm |
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She is becoming really a nice Pantserdeckschepen!
But there is also the usual message for the scratch builder: HP Models announced kits of two ships of this class: Gelderland and Nordbrabant. They also announced the AA battery version of Gelderland, Niobe. Also the coast defence ships/armoured cruisers (Pantserschepen) Jacob van Heemskerck (also as AA German battery Undine), Hertog Hendrik (also as AA battery Ariadne) and De Ruyter are announced. Good news for fans of Dutch ships.
But scratch building is the crown of ship modelling! She is becoming really a nice Pantserdeckschepen! :good_job:
But there is also the usual message for the scratch builder: HP Models announced kits of two ships of this class: Gelderland and Nordbrabant. They also announced the AA battery version of Gelderland, Niobe. Also the coast defence ships/armoured cruisers (Pantserschepen) Jacob van Heemskerck (also as AA German battery Undine), Hertog Hendrik (also as AA battery Ariadne) and De Ruyter are announced. Good news for fans of Dutch ships.
But scratch building is the crown of ship modelling!
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:16 pm |
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Love it!!!!!
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Rob Kernaghan
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:53 am |
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Finally, the artillery is placed, the boat supports and davits are in place, and I've installed the 'ridge' on the hull, made from thin metal wire. Now she really looks like a armoured cruiser!
To do: paint touchups, install boats, finish bow and stern areas with railing, anchor hoists, anchors, crests...maybe some sort of rigging with flags. Finally, the artillery is placed, the boat supports and davits are in place, and I've installed the 'ridge' on the hull, made from thin metal wire. Now she really looks like a armoured cruiser!
[img]http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/MichelB/pk16.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/MichelB/pk17.JPG[/img]
To do: paint touchups, install boats, finish bow and stern areas with railing, anchor hoists, anchors, crests...maybe some sort of rigging with flags.
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:32 am |
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Thanks for asking. No pictures this time, but I can report that I am now working on the 16 boat support beams, made from .05mm ... strips of paper soaked in CA. It's a harrowing task fitting them into the superstructure but thankfully the material is cheap. I ran out of suitable PE strips. Next are the remainder of the guns and then finishing the hull sides.
Things to do:
* boat supports
* boats
* 6 guns w/ shields
* stern / bow decoration
* stern / bow railing, anchors / anchor hoists.
* detailing the hull sides: the armoured deck ridge, portholes, ladders
Perhaps I can finish tomorrow...
BUT... I have started the hull for the USS San Fransisco C-5! Jay!
Thanks for asking. No pictures this time, but I can report that I am now working on the 16 boat support beams, made from .05mm ... strips of paper soaked in CA. It's a harrowing task fitting them into the superstructure but thankfully the material is cheap. I ran out of suitable PE strips. Next are the remainder of the guns and then finishing the hull sides.
Things to do:
* boat supports
* boats
* 6 guns w/ shields
* stern / bow decoration
* stern / bow railing, anchors / anchor hoists.
* detailing the hull sides: the armoured deck ridge, portholes, ladders
Perhaps I can finish tomorrow...
BUT... I have started the hull for the USS San Fransisco C-5! Jay!
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:18 pm |
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