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Hello Neptune :)

I've read your post with great interest because I'm starting my Sovremenny from Arkmodel and some construction steps are very similar.

[img]http://www.wis-nha-tenebris.com/ImagesRotators/Projet956/Sov_0087.jpg[/img]

Hello John,

the model still looks the same. I've finally added the main deck forward and added the rail system there, but that's basically where I stopped. After this model I was a little tired of "correcting someone else's mistakes" and started the full scratchbuild of the Chaconia instead. I do intend to get back to that Udaloy some day. I'm going to move very soon and I'll have more space, and that will make working on it a lot easier as well. With all I've learned from the Chaconia I'm pretty convinced the Udaloy model will end up a lot better than initially expected as well!

When is there a follow up report on this thread ??? Would like to see the end result of the model.

John.

HAHAaaaa i am lack of the same fact -workshop
your model looks superb :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Thanks Dave :big_grin:

Well dragged it out from underneath all the daughters rubbish she had piled on top.

Seems to have stored quite well.

[img]http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/steve_culpan/Udaloy/DSC_8011.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/steve_culpan/Udaloy/DSC_8012.jpg[/img]

Wife making tutting noises already, desperately need a workshop!

Welcome back Steve good to see you posting. :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Dave Wooley

Well it looks as if my a@@ is stuck on the beach for a month so there is only one things for it! She's had chance to forget about everything (yeah! right!) and so I think its time to dust down the Udaloy and press on with her :)

[quote="Neptune"]Hi Mike,

thanks for the advice, it indeed makes a lot of noise, but I can't really find a solution. There just isn't enough space to align them in a better way. Anyway I'll think it over again, I can still reach them.[/quote]
Hi Roel have you given any thought to a belt drive you can get the connection to the shaft lower in the hull with out sacrificing alignment, the ratios can be adjusted . Also it may be worth considering the type of shaft to motor linkages I make use of .
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

I would reccomend my tried and trusty method of using bathroom sealant to attach the motors to the bottom of the hull first of all; even using that method you may still have to move the motors forward a little. if that is not possible I would think about mounting the motors higher and using a belt drive, this though would put your C of G higher as well of course and could cause other problems.

Running it with this set up is going to cause many problems though, the least of which will the noise.

Scouse, snow bound in Wirral.

Hi Mike,

thanks for the advice, it indeed makes a lot of noise, but I can't really find a solution. There just isn't enough space to align them in a better way. Anyway I'll think it over again, I can still reach them.

Hi Roel good to see you posting on your Udaloy once again .
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

[quote="Neptune"]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/DSC_0006-3.jpg[/img]
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I'm afraid I don't like the look of that kink in the line of the universal connecting the shaft to the motor.

That will significantly increase drain on the motors and noise when it is running.

You need to have the shafts and the motors as closely aligned as possible, I know it is a pain, but having learnt this lesson the hard way, I really really recommend seeing what you can do to straighten out that line up.

Mike

So, here is finally another update.
I glued on the main deck after some testing last summer (lost a propellor in astern movement though). I guess that gives me a good excuse to finally get the right propellors.

After gluing the deck and filling the edges (not sanded yet) I've added the tracks on the main deck.
I've also reconstructed most of the AK-630 supports as I glued them with the wrong glue before. The back and front panel were missing in the kit, so I've made these myself (one still to be added as can be seen in the picture).
the entry to the R/C gear is just between those structures, they are fixed, but the deck in between, with part of the tracks is removable (all the way and including the forward Kinzhal launchers.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/Udtrack.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/Udtracks.jpg[/img]

Next up is the sanding down of the tracks and deck edges. Then painting and some bollards, although I think I'll put the PE on the forward funnels first. So much work to do and so "little" time to do it.

Hi Neptune!
Do you know how long are the shafts in you modell???

Hi Roel

You are of course spot on! The parts for the rear that you have added in the last pictures above are provided... haven't checked the PE for wheel struts or rotors yet though. If its of any use I can scale them for you so that you can check against yours?

I have to say that the picture with the helo in the open hanger is FANTASTIC! Got me wondering now if I should see if I can emulate your efforts!

Cheers

Steve

Continuing on that helo, at least I should finish that one before I put this build on the backburner.
The wheels are there, and also the tail surfaces. They look a little too small, but I'm not sure how it will come out once they are painted. The helo just fits in the hanger, with the wheels nicely positioned at the end of the reel on the elevator.

The exhausts of the helo are just fitting, but on the resin model they are too broad anyway, I'll have to cut them slightly and change the shape a little too. Also the windows are a little too broad, they are indeed not flat, slightly curved, but not as much as this resin fuselage suggests.

Steve, I think I did see the tail surfaces of the helicopter in the picture you took of the frame with the forward part of your main deck in it... At least you have some parts that I don't have... I guess together we received one helicopter :big_grin: But ok, I solved that small problem already. Off to the depth charge rack and the propellors.

Fun part of this is that during the day I can use the saw and make noise, but at night, when I can't make noise, I can proceed with the helicopter (and perhaps, Podkat radar)

Hi Roel I like the frames very neatly cut . Is there not a plastic KA27 at 1:100 ?
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Hi Roel

Mine didn't come with a helicopter at all! When I questioned where it was as it was on the parts list they told me that it was "still in the factory" and that they would supply at a later date when they have it!

Steve

hI Neptune your Udaloy looks very great very well done
great job - fantastic arrangments in scratch building :thumbs_up_1:

The moment I bought this Udaloy, the helicopter was still in development (to be delivered with the Arkmodel Type 052B), however, by the time I got my kit, the first prototypes were there, so I got only a resin fuselage. Nothing else, no blades, no wheels, no tail planes...
Here is the initial effort for the forewheels. As you can see in the beginning, the helo is actually a Ka-27 Helix-A, while the Tributs along with others, mainly carries the Ka-27PS Helix-D. So some conversion was necessary, the main difference I guess, are those two small "bumps" on both sides of the fuselage. I removed these, on the portside of the helo, the D-version carries a rescue winch instead of that bump, so I'll have to add that.
The last pic is where we are, horizontal tail planes are there, forewheels and the starboard aft wheel. First I'll have to fabricate that winch with its support, then I can install the portside wheel. Once that is finished I'll start with the huge tree with propellors.
The D-version also carries a rack for two depth charges on starboard side, just behind the aft wheel and the thing with the two red balls below the tail. I'll have to make all of that too.
I got a little held up though... :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo: