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[quote="El Santo"]
The Super Yamato scheme shown is a little tricky, because it's inherently speculative. On the other hand, that also means we have some leeway for just making stuff up. I would interpret the two greens as Type 21 and Type 22 Camouflage, and the dark gray as one of the four variants of the standard IJN gray. In the real world, [i]Yamato[/i] and [i]Musashi[/i] both wore Kure Naval Arsenal Gray, so I'd probably use that one (although the Very Fire painting guide makes it look more like the Sasebo Naval Arsenal version, which was a touch darker and closer to neutral than Kure's). Colourcoats (currently available in the US from White Ensign Models, and in the UK from Resolution Hobbies) offers specific matches for all those colors if you don't mind using enamel paints. If you prefer acrylics, Tamiya has specific matches for the IJN grays, but you'd have to experiment a bit to match the greens. Just judging from how they appear on my monitor (which can be very deceptive, mind you), Tamiya's XF-65 Field Grey and XF-12 J.N. Grey, both of which seem to have a noticeable greenish tinge, look like plausible starting points.

EDITED TO ADD: Oh! One more thing: Forget about the light gray that the painting guide shows on the steel-plated areas of the decks. The steel decks should be the same gray that you use in the camouflage, whichever one you pick. The IJN didn't have a special color for steel decks the way the US Navy and Kriegsmarine did.[/quote]


you sir are a legend - that's exactly the kind of info I'm looking for! :thumbs_up_1: I am all for making things up to suit my own tastes - I am not at all bothered by historical accuracy's or in accuracy's as is my case. I just like what looks cool

I was thinking of using maybe Tamiya's Black Green for the darker streak or even NATO black (I just love that colour). It was the 2 lighter greens that I was having trouble reconciling the paints stated by Veryfire to a different brand. I think I've found a suitable paint for the lightest green, but am still looking for the right mid green. I should be able to make something up if I can't anyways :)

thanks again for your info - that part about the steel grey is awesome to know :thumbs_up_1:

[quote="Madhatter"]Thanks fellas,
I have the Takao which I am half way through building and VF only reference one type of paint. I do wish they'd provide alternatives to their own line of paint but its a 1st world problem really. I'm mostly asking because their new Super Yamato has a super cool scheme on it and I would like to know the colours they use.[/quote]
The Super Yamato scheme shown is a little tricky, because it's inherently speculative. On the other hand, that also means we have some leeway for just making stuff up. I would interpret the two greens as Type 21 and Type 22 Camouflage, and the dark gray as one of the four variants of the standard IJN gray. In the real world, [i]Yamato[/i] and [i]Musashi[/i] both wore Kure Naval Arsenal Gray, so I'd probably use that one (although the Very Fire painting guide makes it look more like the Sasebo Naval Arsenal version, which was a touch darker and closer to neutral than Kure's). Colourcoats (currently available in the US from White Ensign Models, and in the UK from Resolution Hobbies) offers specific matches for all those colors if you don't mind using enamel paints. If you prefer acrylics, Tamiya has specific matches for the IJN grays, but you'd have to experiment a bit to match the greens. Just judging from how they appear on my monitor (which can be very deceptive, mind you), Tamiya's XF-65 Field Grey and XF-12 J.N. Grey, both of which seem to have a noticeable greenish tinge, look like plausible starting points.

EDITED TO ADD: Oh! One more thing: Forget about the light gray that the painting guide shows on the steel-plated areas of the decks. The steel decks should be the same gray that you use in the camouflage, whichever one you pick. The IJN didn't have a special color for steel decks the way the US Navy and Kriegsmarine did.

Thank you, Tracy!

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As a general rule, if you want [i]accurate[/i] representation it's better to research the actual colors used and ignore the manufacturer's guides. There are a few exceptions to this, but the Very Fire Instructions posted above have errors. They depict her in [url=https://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_22.htm]Measure 22[/url] and list the paints as 5-N Navy Blue and 5-L Light Gray. Measure 22 called for 5-H [b]Haze[/b] Gray, not light gray.

Once you know the original paint colors there are any number of manufacturers you can look at.

But you can also use paint conversion charts and eyeball it as well.

[quote="Dan K"]Are you sure VF has a paint line? Can't find it for sale anywhere, including their own online shop.[/quote]

I dont know but look at his photo / there is Veryfire heading for paint tables and some numebrs below. at least it looks like there have their own line, may be its a local Chinese market thing.

Are you sure VF has a paint line? Can't find it for sale anywhere, including their own online shop.

If your model is of an American warship and you know the scheme/colours that she was painted in, you surely shouldn't need to worry about trying to find the alternatives to the Veryfire paint range. You can use the paints from another manufacturer's range. That should also be "good" for warships of other nations.

Thanks fellas,
I have the Takao which I am half way through building and VF only reference one type of paint. I do wish they'd provide alternatives to their own line of paint but its a 1st world problem really. I'm mostly asking because their new Super Yamato has a super cool scheme on it and I would like to know the colours they use.

This is from the Birmingham kit:

[img]https://modelbrouwers.nl/media/cache/48/54/48543abbb486fdd36653d32872221032.jpg[/img]

On some of their models there is only Mr.Hobby.

Hi, from the review on Takao by Sen on YouTube. They are very fires own paint

I have the kit on the way, so need to look myself

hi all
Can anyone tell me what paints Veryfire refer to in their instructions? Alternatively, does anyone know what their respected counterpart would be in say Gunze, or Tamiya etc?
Thanks for any help in this area