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Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART

by drasticplastic » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:29 pm

Don't know how big A3 is, but I bought a pad of 11" x 16". Big enough for most 1/700 ships, and will last a long time!
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Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART

by JIM BAUMANN » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:10 pm

For convenience and repeatability...

I buy a large A3 Pad -- and in 1/70 and 1/350 it last me a decade or so!!

cheers
JB :wave_1:

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART

by drasticplastic » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:48 am

Do you prefer the hand-made watercolor paper (usually large sheets with a rough edge), or manufactured watercolor paper, measured and cut and bound in a pad? Both are textured.
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Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART

by JIM BAUMANN » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:09 am

Hello all welcome to 2021...

yes--I am still using the watercolourists paper

so this thread is still current!

I hope it will be still useful to others

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JIM B

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART

by Cuchulainn1795 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:32 pm

Excellent Jim, your most helpful reply is very much appreciated! :wave_1:

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART

by JIM BAUMANN » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:07 am

I buy pink ZAP ( by pacer ) its very runny-and very pongy--work in well ventilated area!!!

I spread it with a pice of styrene and or toothpick ( no absorbent--sont use a brush or paper!! )

buying it large bottles moderates the price well...

In Northern Ireland...?

dunno...
THESE GUYS SHIP to all UK

http://www.modelshop.co.uk/Content/Dyna ... _4Dcat.pdf

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Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART

by Cuchulainn1795 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:33 am

Hu Jim :wave_1: ,

Your two threads on how you make water from art paper are really interesting. I was originally thinking of using the Oats Bran technique as so ably explained by Chris, but am thinking of trying yours first for my 1/1250 scale ships.

Before doing this, I wonder if you could just clarify how you soak the paper with the CA glue? Do you paint it on, squirt the stuff over the paper, or are you doing it in some other way?

And since I'm pestering you anyway, one more thing won't make much difference... would there be any chance you could add a link to where you get the glue? I seem to only find it in small tubes, and never thin viscosity for some reason in Northern Ireland. This is another reason why I've put the Oats Bran Method on the back burner at the moment.

Thanks!

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by JIM BAUMANN » Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:03 pm

I use some industrial stuff as used by double glazing installers...

A near equivalent would be the ZAP runny(made by Pacer) in a pink bottle.

The paper sucks the CA up like sponge--making it impervious to moisture and really quite strong too!.

JIM B :wave_1:

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by Timothyo » Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:03 pm

Hi Jim-

Thanks for the great ideas, I think I shall try it- I have a question though, before I try your method-

What type of superglue do you use, and how do you apply it to the paper? I am assuming you use a non-viscous type, but was curious on your technique, as I have never saturated anything other than my floor with the stuff! Does the paper just absorb it on its own?

Thanks, and regards,

Timothy

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by JIM BAUMANN » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:50 pm

Francis wrote:

<< the paper is Bockingford Rough rather than Rockingford.>>

you are of course absolutely correct- my typo... duh!

>> Might save some time for anyone trying to find some!<<

and then some!

thanks for the observation!

JIM B :wave_1:

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by FrancisMcN » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:45 pm

Jim,

Thanks indeed for an excellent article.

One small point - I think the paper is Bockingford Rough rather than Rockingford. Might save some time for anyone trying to find some!

Francis Macnaughton

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART

by JIM BAUMANN » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:00 am

Hi all

the model is now finished except for the rigging--and the finishing of the water can now be seen here:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37406

:wave_1: JIM B

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by Rui Matos » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:21 am

Looking forward to the "final" update Jim
Keep up
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Rui

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by reuben » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:52 am

Simply incredible--surfed your other models on your website and am amazed at your skill and dedication.

Will take my hopelessly crude pond boat query down to the local hardware store and leave you all to you amazing craftsmanship!

cheers, :smallsmile:
Reuben

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by JIM BAUMANN » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:08 am

@ Silent one...

:welcome: :welcome: to Modelwarships.com

HMS Scylla is now essentially finished.just a few last tiny issued to clear up

I shall flat-coat it at the weekend-and then the water surface gets further work to completion.
Thereafter I shall document it here early next week.

Thank for your interest

JIM B :smallsmile:

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by Allan McBeath » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:34 am

This is a verry useful thread. just a beginner so would very much like to see more about making sea bases. When will we get part two, Im eager to get into this. Verry grateful for this tutorial.

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by Rainer » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:32 am

Hi Jim,

what a wonderful job. Your water design is very realistic. You're just a true champion.

Many greetings

Rainer :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by Yevgeniy » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:16 am

Thank you, Jim.

I like both methods: yours and Rainer's. You achieve incredible realism. :thumbs_up_1:

Yevgeniy

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by JIM BAUMANN » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:50 pm

@ Yevgeniy

There are a number of ways of simulating rougher water.

I personally like using autobodyfiller- sets fast and sculpts quite well

In my build article of HMS Mary Rose I detailed what I did with it!
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... eview.html

Image

Modelwarship colleague Rainer Michalek is an exponent of the 'German' Silicone clear sealer method.
He presented an article here at MW.com on how he does it!

http://www.modelwarships.com/features/h ... index.html

Cheers

Jim Baumann

Re: Making Sea-water -using watercolor paper in 1/700-- PART ONE

by Miguel » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:58 am

Thank You very much Jim. :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo:
I was looking for this technique,my Achilles ankle is water,I'm afraid to destroy my so so ships with a trully horrible water diorama ,hope to see more Jim :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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