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Topic review - Awnings
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Done!
Post Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:56 pm
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Oh Moderator,

Would it be possible to merge these posts to the Tips and Tricks Awnings topic? viewtopic.php?f=4&t=44833
Or simply move this post to the Tips and Tricks?

I think Master Jim's exposition would be very helpful for anyone trying this out.
Post Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:48 pm
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--Thanks Timmy !

to further further expand even more-- I have used--instead of a rigid ' stick'

a long paintbrush--known as a 'rigger' . see image below

being flexible it assist in keeping contact on the edges as you drag the film across

afew examples as below!

HTH

JB

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:04 pm
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To further elaborate on the white glue method:

Start from one corner. The stick with the glue on it needs to touch both edges of the frame - the stick should be parallel to the deck, not perpendicular. As you drag the stick across the frame, ensure that it continues to touch BOTH frame edges at the same time, making a triangle with the glue film. Keep this triangle (which will eventually turn into another shape) as you go along until you reach the opposite corner and have covered the entire expanse. Imagine yourself as "short circuiting" the awning frame using the stick.
Post Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:59 pm
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There is a link in tips and tricks on awnings with a couple of alternatives
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=44833
Post Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:24 pm
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I'm getting ready to go to a fabric store to check out their lightweight linen..........I want to make blast bags for my 1/200 Hood. Will advise on what I find.
Post Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:09 pm
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Jim Baumann has a little bit of a tutorial here:

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/it/misc/faa_di_bruno-700-jb/index.htm

I believe that other people may have used tissue paper soaked in thinned white glue, but I can't remember exactly who posted that or what build it was for.

HTH a little bit, anyway.

Bob
Post Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:17 pm
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I know this has been asked a few times, but in seem to get contrasting information regarding it
So, my question is, how do you make deck awnings with white glue?

I have tried and failed to make them, I have researched at length and it appears that it's an assumed skill and info on actually how to do it is very scant

Chris
Post Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:16 am
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Following Master Bauman's lead I also tried the white glue method on the Varyag in 1/350. I am including some pics of the process as the white glue sets to give an idea of the areas that can be covered.

The reason I am posting is to draw attention to an effect found by serendipity. If the sides of the frame are very thin stretched sprue, the tension exerted as the white glue sets draws them in giving them a nice curvature that renders the stretching of the cloth along the edges. More comments on the pics.


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File comment: Here you see the frame and the white glue setting on some of the sections. Note the pieces of paper a I spread on the deck to protect it from accidents. They were not needed in the end. Even if the glue popped open a hole, it stuck to the frame.
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File comment: Here the glue has set and the tarps have been sprayed with matt varnish; quick passes with paint landing almost dry. You can see the curvature on the periphery of the cloth and especially at the stern where it makes room for the back-stay to come through. Doing the part where the back-stay goes through came as an afterthought, once I realized that the tension creates the curvatures at the edges. Also note the "botched" section, third from left on the port side: I fiddled with it as the glue was setting. Lesson I learned: do not do that!
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File comment: Here it is painted, before getting it "dirtied". I liked how the curvatures convey the stretching.
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:05 pm
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Old school method that works in most smaller scales..... Get a 2-ply tissue and pull the plys apart. CA the tissue to the framework, then a thin layer of CA over the tissue to make it rigid and also less susceptible to tearing when handling. When dry and trimmed, add a wash of what color you want your canvas to be! Also good for truck bed tarps and blast bags. Jack
Post Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:44 pm
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Your Hood is in 1/350th, right? You can probably use really thin styrene sheets or even paper and rest them over the the frame.

Remember that you can try different thicknesses of glue if you're finding difficulty in spreading it across the frame!
Post Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:02 pm
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Hey folks

Im just about at the point to add awning to my 1/350 Hood, ive tried the white glue trick, but it doesnt seem to work, i think the spaces in the framing are to big to cover, and dont really want to make a complex support armiture, so was wondering if anyone had any ideas for doing awnings in this scale?
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Post Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:32 pm
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Islander wrote:
What is the best way to build an awning at the stern (for my Combrig Renown)? I'm pretty sure I've seen somethings here, but can't seem to find anything. Any help or links would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
John


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:thumbs_up_1: Jimmy
Post Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:52 am
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Cheers Timmy,
I'll give it a shot.
John
Post Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:19 pm
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Yes, just regular white glue for the awnings. Make sure to paint them with enamels, however, as acrylics and aqueous paints have too much water content in them, resulting in the dissolution of the canvas.
Post Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:09 pm
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Hi Timmy,
Wow, great job! Yes, that is about the size I want to do.

did you use glue?

Cheers,
John
Post Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:47 pm
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How large are you thinking? I did the entire quarterdeck of my BB-63 using this method, though making sure that I had plenty of framing: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
Post Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:42 pm
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Cheers Timmy,

Will that work for larger spaces?
J
Post Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:54 am
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Jim B does them with supports built of stretched sprue and/or wire and then stretches a layer of white glue between the frames to make the canvas.
Post Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:57 pm
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What is the best way to build an awning at the stern (for my Combrig Renown)? I'm pretty sure I've seen somethings here, but can't seem to find anything. Any help or links would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
John
Post Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:29 pm

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