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current status : built all superstructures, and the SPG-55 missile radars., where I got the ideal for the two forward 5"/54 guns and Terrier aft from USN missile manual.

Finally restarted the build: added the L1 deck structure and above, This build is in between a DLG-6/-9 class and a DDG-2 class in size. Still a tight fit to get the Terrier system and and have the weapons systems of DDG-2 class, with Terrier in place of Tartar. The build is a DD-931 hull, the roots of this is still visible, I used the DEG plan of FY57-62/and the following ship classes DDG-2/DL-6/DLG-9/DD-931/DLG-16 for reference. after starting the bridge area decided to reduced window size by adding more framing for the windows
*note L3 deck and fwd bridge and macks are not glued down yet need to paint inside the bridge area and add clear plastic for windows before gluing.

Finally scratch built a terrier missile launcher and added it to the build, built set of macks, for possible use, also posted rough sketches, with the build in front of them, still working on what the superstructure/system placement might look like.

still around 50 ft short even with a hull and bow expansion this is base on FY 62 USN ship studies requirements. the minimum space of terrier missile system with 40-60 missiles and DLG-16 type control space, Thought of using macks in place of stacks and masts, this frees up about 19 ft, and moving the bridge/superstructure forward 44 ft would free of enough space to make all this fit on an expanded DD 931 hull.

Items left off the FY 62 USN ship design requirement: not using the 8000 N.MI range @ 20kts this adds around 1550-1800 tons. staying around 800-900 tons fuel. Using SQS--23 hull sonar, instead of SQS-26 bow sonar. Leaving off the DASH system (Drone ASW helicopter).

when build is completed represents as updated around FY72 adds second SQS-23 sonar dome becoming SQQ-23 sonar system, replace SPS-39 radar with SPS-48 and add ULQ-6 ECM Syst. clear stern deck area for helicopter pad by relocating fanfare syst. and deck vents and bollards.

2nd drawing of Luce 9.653" LOA, this drawing simple black white nice, but kind of small to work with.

Scale of drawing of Coontz is 17.316" LOA

what is the scale length not the model length?

Extended the bow about 3.5mm, made the bow more pointed at the top, changed the angle above the waterline, to look more like a DLG.

The drawings of Coontz DLG 9/DDG 40 Iam using is in 1/355 scale, the gun turret in the drawing is 1/341 scale, (off just like models are), the model Build is long enought to be a Coontz class in 1/348.807 scale just the hull shape off a little bit, and the stern area beam width is too narrow by 1.5mm on each side (port/sbd), just aft of where the terrier lchr including the helio landing area , and the gun turret would be in 1/318.95 scale.

any comments or thoughts?

DD-938 USS Jonas Ingram Booklet of General Plans (1970) https://archive.org/details/dd938bogp1970
DD-951 USS Turner Joy General Arrangement (2011) https://archive.org/details/dd951haer2011

added the main deck, drilled two holes in the deck one for 5"/54 mk42 and one for mk10 terrier lchr, (the Deck not glued down yet), next step building of superstructure, thinking of just using Coontz class DLG for style and layout of the superstructure and systems.

they somewhat open in ie11 but use google chrome to properly open them.

FFG -7 thanks for the links only the last link opens, the others won't open, I looked at drawings of DD-931, DDG-2, DL-1, DL-2, DLG-6, DLG-16, DLG-26 for length of bilge keel, will probably used DL-2 bilge keel length.

look at these.
DDG-9 USS Towers Booklet of General Plans (1974) (version 1) https://archive.org/details/ddg9bogp1974
DDG-16 USS Joseph Strauss Booklet of General Plans (1962) https://archive.org/details/ddg16bogp1962v1
DDG-22 USS Benjamin Stoddert Booklet of General Plans (1963) (version 1) https://archive.org/details/ddg22bogp1963
DDG-24 USS Waddell Booklet of General Plans (196X) https://archive.org/details/ddg24bogp196x

Added more white plastic to the hull, was thinking of modifying the area into a bilge keel, need to research what a bilge keel would look like on USN destroyer type ships of late 1950s to mid 1960s.

The hull not bent, the curves of hull are changed due sanding to blend in with the hull extension, and hull is also push out with inside brackets to widen the hull. add all this together get a change hull curves fwd and aft of the extended hull section.

So I decided cut the inside brackets to take some of the pressure off the widening part, it only moved about .05mm at the most, this cause the extension part to bubble up little in some spots, as this is made up of four layers, it bubbled up inside the layers, also added white plastic to hull to try fill in area of heavy sanding see if will take out some of the curves, and then build the keel back up in this area.

that won't solve the bent model as can be seen in this picture of yours. download/file.php?id=158570&mode=view

FFG-7 I remember this issue now, after not touching the model in many months, when I sanded the hull extension to blend in with the hull , parts of the keel got sanded down in certain areas, quick fix added a strip of white plastic to the keel and will add super glue later to even the keel out more.

why is the conversion model bent at the middle so that the keel is curved downwards at the ends instead of being straight?

thanks FFG-7, I looked at the DEG general plans after I brought the 1/311 Atlantis Ramsey kit, And notice the 21" torpedo tubes in the transom, so I quickly added that modification to the kit, so when I build it later would not forget or be too lazy to add it.

thanks FFG-7 for that link of the deg, that i did look that over before after buying the Ramsey kit and i saw the two 21" torpedo tubes, I quickly modified the new kit, so I would not forget to do this modification later when I build the kit.

DEG-1 USS Brooke Booklet of General Plans (1965) https://archive.org/details/deg1bogp1965