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karih wrote: Hi pascalemod,
This photo of the Yamato stern is from the Skulski book (which I strongly recommend to buy, if you want to make a "proper" version of the Yamato). I have that book (red one) but seemingly missed the photo of the stern thinkning im looking at a rudder! Very good indeed. The ships 3D model is also on Youtube from them, so you can see it rotate. I have used it to double check the question 2) I had, and confirmed the high antifouling assumption.  Page 13 photo aligns well with the 3D photo.
[quote="karih"]Hi pascalemod,
This photo of the Yamato stern is from the Skulski book (which I strongly recommend to buy, if you want to make a "proper" version of the Yamato).[/quote]
I have that book (red one) but seemingly missed the photo of the stern thinkning im looking at a rudder! Very good indeed. The ships 3D model is also on Youtube from them, so you can see it rotate. I have used it to double check the question 2) I had, and confirmed the high antifouling assumption. ;) Page 13 photo aligns well with the 3D photo.
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:39 pm |
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Hi pascalemod,
This photo of the Yamato stern is from the Skulski book (which I strongly recommend to buy, if you want to make a "proper" version of the Yamato).
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Hi pascalemod,
This photo of the Yamato stern is from the Skulski book (which I strongly recommend to buy, if you want to make a "proper" version of the Yamato).
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:45 am |
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karih wrote: pascalemod wrote: This is amazing bit of work and detail!
Couple of questions (as one Yamato sits in my stash):
1) Got more shots of that stern? Why did you go through the effort of redesign, what evidence did you use to be convinced this is the way?
2) I notice that you painted the antifouling red all the way up to those "pipes" on the side of the ship (forget the term?). Most kits would have it lower, in line with the waterline markings. Did IJN really paint it higher? Thank you pascalemod for your positive comments! For the questions: 1) I followed the styling of the Kure model although it differs from the design in the Skulski book and one of the photos from the wreck suggests that Skulski might be right. 2) Once again, I followed the Skulski book and some of the photos (Yamato sea trials & Yamato in Kure) hint that the antifouling was painted rather high, but very difficult to see where the upper level is in comparison with the scupper pipes. Please check the Yamato photo database. 1) So you have seen that stern wreck photo? Any chance at all to take a look at it? I looked everywere and couldnt find anything, but did think that the stern shape was either meant for launching the ship backwards, or - damaged from hitting the sea floor. But curious to see your take, yes. 2) I did check one of the trials figure where she is in port, overlayed on 3d model - very close match to the Skulski higher up waterline, so Im with you on that. It should be painted up. Up to the scupper pipes. Mine will be like that. Builders model would not be (Kure) but it does not matter. I think the wartime was different to "planned" and they sat lower with fuel etc. Higher up antifouling would make sense as regulare paint would weather a lot worse. Especially if ship sat in port, which it did. a lot.
[quote="karih"][quote="pascalemod"]This is amazing bit of work and detail!
Couple of questions (as one Yamato sits in my stash):
1) Got more shots of that stern? Why did you go through the effort of redesign, what evidence did you use to be convinced this is the way?
2) I notice that you painted the antifouling red all the way up to those "pipes" on the side of the ship (forget the term?). Most kits would have it lower, in line with the waterline markings. Did IJN really paint it higher?[/quote]
Thank you pascalemod for your positive comments!
For the questions:
1) I followed the styling of the Kure model although it differs from the design in the Skulski book and one of the photos from the wreck suggests that Skulski might be right.
2) Once again, I followed the Skulski book and some of the photos (Yamato sea trials & Yamato in Kure) hint that the antifouling was painted rather high, but very difficult to see where the upper level is in comparison with the scupper pipes. Please check the Yamato photo database.[/quote]
1) So you have seen that stern wreck photo? Any chance at all to take a look at it? I looked everywere and couldnt find anything, but did think that the stern shape was either meant for launching the ship backwards, or - damaged from hitting the sea floor. But curious to see your take, yes.
2) I did check one of the trials figure where she is in port, overlayed on 3d model - very close match to the Skulski higher up waterline, so Im with you on that. It should be painted up. Up to the scupper pipes. Mine will be like that. Builders model would not be (Kure) but it does not matter. I think the wartime was different to "planned" and they sat lower with fuel etc. Higher up antifouling would make sense as regulare paint would weather a lot worse. Especially if ship sat in port, which it did. a lot.
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:04 am |
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pascalemod wrote: This is amazing bit of work and detail!
Couple of questions (as one Yamato sits in my stash):
1) Got more shots of that stern? Why did you go through the effort of redesign, what evidence did you use to be convinced this is the way?
2) I notice that you painted the antifouling red all the way up to those "pipes" on the side of the ship (forget the term?). Most kits would have it lower, in line with the waterline markings. Did IJN really paint it higher? Thank you pascalemod for your positive comments! For the questions: 1) I followed the styling of the Kure model although it differs from the design in the Skulski book and one of the photos from the wreck suggests that Skulski might be right. 2) Once again, I followed the Skulski book and some of the photos (Yamato sea trials & Yamato in Kure) hint that the antifouling was painted rather high, but very difficult to see where the upper level is in comparison with the scupper pipes. Please check the Yamato photo database.
[quote="pascalemod"]This is amazing bit of work and detail!
Couple of questions (as one Yamato sits in my stash):
1) Got more shots of that stern? Why did you go through the effort of redesign, what evidence did you use to be convinced this is the way?
2) I notice that you painted the antifouling red all the way up to those "pipes" on the side of the ship (forget the term?). Most kits would have it lower, in line with the waterline markings. Did IJN really paint it higher?[/quote]
Thank you pascalemod for your positive comments!
For the questions:
1) I followed the styling of the Kure model although it differs from the design in the Skulski book and one of the photos from the wreck suggests that Skulski might be right.
2) Once again, I followed the Skulski book and some of the photos (Yamato sea trials & Yamato in Kure) hint that the antifouling was painted rather high, but very difficult to see where the upper level is in comparison with the scupper pipes. Please check the Yamato photo database.
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:13 am |
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This is amazing bit of work and detail!
Couple of questions (as one Yamato sits in my stash):
1) Got more shots of that stern? Why did you go through the effort of redesign, what evidence did you use to be convinced this is the way?
2) I notice that you painted the antifouling red all the way up to those "pipes" on the side of the ship (forget the term?). Most kits would have it lower, in line with the waterline markings. Did IJN really paint it higher?
This is amazing bit of work and detail!
Couple of questions (as one Yamato sits in my stash):
1) Got more shots of that stern? Why did you go through the effort of redesign, what evidence did you use to be convinced this is the way?
2) I notice that you painted the antifouling red all the way up to those "pipes" on the side of the ship (forget the term?). Most kits would have it lower, in line with the waterline markings. Did IJN really paint it higher?
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:38 am |
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:22 am |
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AUXILIARIES
The Tamiya kit contained poor quality planes and boats, so I replaced both of them. I used Hasegawa's Japanese Navy Ship-borne Seaplane Set A for visible planes (the ones in the hangar were kit planes) and Tamiya's own WWII Japanese Navy Utility Boat Set for boats. Luckily, the otherwise poor Eduard PE set had parts for catapults, crane and Type 21 radar above the Hoiban range finder.
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File comment: Kit did not have any binoculars (only simple molded studs), so I replaced them with binoculars from Bunker Studio.

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File comment: I wanted to have the planes also with retracted wings, but I could not find any WWII photos, so had to use this CAD image.

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File comment: Changing the Hasegawa plane was a rather fiddly process.

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File comment: Pete in normal configuration was much easier.

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File comment: Original kit planes in the hangar will not be visible, but I still wanted to add them.

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File comment: Placed one plane into the well aft of the hangar.

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File comment: Although not as detailed as the Pontos equivalent, the catapults were a nice detail.

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File comment: Catapult glued in place. Notice also the nice lifebuoy from FStar.

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File comment: Plane ready to take off!

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[b][color=#0000FF][size=150]AUXILIARIES[/size][/color][/b]
The Tamiya kit contained poor quality planes and boats, so I replaced both of them. I used Hasegawa's Japanese Navy Ship-borne Seaplane Set A for visible planes (the ones in the hangar were kit planes) and Tamiya's own WWII Japanese Navy Utility Boat Set for boats. Luckily, the otherwise poor Eduard PE set had parts for catapults, crane and Type 21 radar above the Hoiban range finder.
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:03 am |
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:29 am |
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Edoardo81 wrote: Uao you are building it really fast! Actually Edoardo, it took me more than a year to finish, but due to health issues, I did not start writing the thread before. Now that it is finished, I thought that it would be nice to show the whole project not only the final photos.
[quote="Edoardo81"]Uao you are building it really fast![/quote]
Actually Edoardo, it took me more than a year to finish, but due to health issues, I did not start writing the thread before. Now that it is finished, I thought that it would be nice to show the whole project not only the final photos.
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:03 am |
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SG1 wrote: I love those tower railings!  Amazing finish and weathering. Bravo! Thank You SG1 for your kind words! Well appreciated.
[quote="SG1"]I love those tower railings! :cool_2: Amazing finish and weathering. Bravo![/quote]
Thank You SG1 for your kind words! Well appreciated.
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:00 am |
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Uao you are building it really fast!
Uao you are building it really fast!
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:40 am |
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I love those tower railings!  Amazing finish and weathering. Bravo!
I love those tower railings! :cool_2: Amazing finish and weathering. Bravo!
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:07 am |
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:46 am |
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ARMAMENT continues with AA guns. Once again, Eduard set did not have PE parts for the actual AA guns (only the shields were included), so I purchased some nice sets from Infini which are definetely high quality products. However, they are also very tiresome to build due to excessive number of parts. Eg. the triple 25 mm AA guns consists of 20 individual parts and since there are 27 of those, it means 540 parts for those guns (a tough project within a project  ). But the end result is impressive.
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File comment: A nice set of Infini's PE parts for the AA guns and ammunition boxes.

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File comment: I started the shields by bending them roughly into the right diameter.

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File comment: Then I glued the base plates on the superstructure and after that glued the shields in place to get the right diameter.

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File comment: Finally, bended down the supporting brackets and glued them in place.

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File comment: Instruction show clearly, how complicated the assembly is.

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File comment: Work in progress.

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File comment: This was a real challenge for my poor eyes and shaky hands!

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File comment: All 27 ready for the paint.

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File comment: Final product with three different colours.

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File comment: Started to glue them in place.

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ARMAMENT continues with AA guns.
Once again, Eduard set did not have PE parts for the actual AA guns (only the shields were included), so I purchased some nice sets from Infini which are definetely high quality products. However, they are also very tiresome to build due to excessive number of parts. Eg. the triple 25 mm AA guns consists of 20 individual parts and since there are 27 of those, it means 540 parts for those guns (a tough project within a project :Mad_6: ). But the end result is impressive.
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:35 am |
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:16 am |
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StevenVD wrote: I think you managed this just fine. I once repaired an old broken Tamiya Bismarck and I also used Eduard for it. It's not conclusive and it doesn't correct the kit errors but the investment is more reasonable than using an expensive Pontos set on a kit that's not the best anymore. The rigging looks complicated, you pulled it off beautifully though I think it's not the superfine elastic thread? Thank You Steven  ! That was actually my thinking when I bought the Eduard set. No point in spending a fortune when the starting point is already poor. If I remember right, I used a thicker elastic thread for the longitudinal wires and superfine for the vertical wires & halyards.
[quote="StevenVD"]I think you managed this just fine. I once repaired an old broken Tamiya Bismarck and I also used Eduard for it. It's not conclusive and it doesn't correct the kit errors but the investment is more reasonable than using an expensive Pontos set on a kit that's not the best anymore. The rigging looks complicated, you pulled it off beautifully though I think it's not the superfine elastic thread?[/quote]
Thank You Steven :thumbs_up_1: !
That was actually my thinking when I bought the Eduard set. No point in spending a fortune when the starting point is already poor.
If I remember right, I used a thicker elastic thread for the longitudinal wires and superfine for the vertical wires & halyards.
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:58 am |
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I think you managed this just fine. I once repaired an old broken Tamiya Bismarck and I also used Eduard for it. It's not conclusive and it doesn't correct the kit errors but the investment is more reasonable than using an expensive Pontos set on a kit that's not the best anymore. The rigging looks complicated, you pulled it off beautifully though I think it's not the superfine elastic thread?
I think you managed this just fine. I once repaired an old broken Tamiya Bismarck and I also used Eduard for it. It's not conclusive and it doesn't correct the kit errors but the investment is more reasonable than using an expensive Pontos set on a kit that's not the best anymore. The rigging looks complicated, you pulled it off beautifully though I think it's not the superfine elastic thread?
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Deck & superstructure continues with the Pontos wooden deck.
This was my first ever wooden deck assembly and it was a bit tricky because the old Tamiya tooling has included a big part of the superstucture in the deck mould. This meant that every hole, bend and corner had to be adjusted painstakingly before the actual glueing. It took me several hours to get everything ok (and not to damage the fragile material). It also meant that most of the paint work for the superstructure had to be made before mounting the wooden deck. For the same reason, I also stained the deck before the mounting. I tried to copy the colour of an aged & weathered cypress wood. So, although it looks a bit towards grey, it was not my idea to copy the black stained deck during the breakthrough in the San Bernardino Strait (which seem to have lead to some "heated" discussions in the net).
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File comment: The difference between a new and weathered cypress wood. ONLY FOR REFERENCE!

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File comment: At first, stained the deck with AK Int Dark Wash for Wooden Deck.

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File comment: Secondly, added some AK Int Wash for Grey Deck to create the weathered look.

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File comment: The stern part of the wooden deck was glued first.

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File comment: After that, the bow section went in. I had to glue the area between the superstructure and the housing of the 155 mm gun separately due to the PE mounted earlier.

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File comment: Pontos deck came with dry transfers for the white deck markings which were painted late 1944 to improve safety during night time.

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File comment: Painted also the white stripes between the flight deck tracks.

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File comment: Added anchor chains (also from Pontos) and some weathering on the forecastle deck.

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File comment: Mounted all the rope & cable coils on deck.

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File comment: Finally, assembled the main parts of the superstructure.

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Deck & superstructure continues with the Pontos wooden deck.
This was my first ever wooden deck assembly and it was a bit tricky because the old Tamiya tooling has included a big part of the superstucture in the deck mould. This meant that every hole, bend and corner had to be adjusted painstakingly before the actual glueing. It took me several hours to get everything ok (and not to damage the fragile material). It also meant that most of the paint work for the superstructure had to be made before mounting the wooden deck. For the same reason, I also stained the deck before the mounting. I tried to copy the colour of an aged & weathered cypress wood. So, although it looks a bit towards grey, it was not my idea to copy the black stained deck during the breakthrough in the San Bernardino Strait (which seem to have lead to some "heated" discussions in the net).
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:28 am |
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