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Topic review - 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)
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  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
Bravo, and superb diorama!
Post Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:12 am
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
Medicmike, J. Soca, Joe Simon and Marijn, thank you guys!

As I finished this diorama on time, I entered the Moson scale model exhibition in Hungary last weekend. All of the ships - and generally all of the models - were perfectly built so it was an honor to get a gold medal in the hobby category with Yahagi.

Of course I am far far from the professionals so try to keep up and out the bar higher with every step :smallsmile:
Post Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:25 pm
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
Aaron, it was a pleasure to meet you and see this model in the flesh last weekend!

Very well done! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Cheers,

Marijn
Post Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:51 am
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
Very nice!
Post Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:21 pm
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Nice looking dio :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: i can see captain Hara on the bridge :cool_1:





Jose :wave_1:
Post Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:39 pm
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
Awesome :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:28 pm
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
Thank you guys so much!
Post Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:14 am
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
Really really well done !!

Now I'm definitely modifying my old Tamiya Agano kit
Post Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:45 pm
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Wow!
Post Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:40 am
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
Thank You, Marijn!

I tried my best to make the water as realistic as possible. It turned out that the 3D gel medium has a slight yellowish tint which was so conspicious on the parts I used on several layers. So I wash those parts with a turquoise filter and white as pinwash and sealed it with a clear gloss warnish. Neither perfect nor as good as I wanted. My expectations are always a bit too high and I can easily forget that this is only my 3rd water base so far :surfer:

So I guess it is good for now. I learned a lot during the build, especially sea base and PE work! Hope you like the build log. Good by for now! I have to finish a Parisian diorama but after that I'm gonna chose my next ship from my stash.


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Last week I have found this beautifully colourised picture of the ship.

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And the model.

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Cheers, Áron!
Post Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:31 am
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
Ah, I forgot you were reproducing that scene!
Some movement in the water will be in order than!
But of course, you will have to make it in function of the splashes: rough around the splashes but more flat elsewhere.

The figures look very good! :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:12 am
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Short post: I have arranged the figures. I have to make some more, but try not to overdone it. Enjoy.

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Cheers, Áron!
Post Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:23 pm
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Thank you, Marijn!

I missed to calculate the height of the waves, big mistake! According to this picture I should use even more white on the water.

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I'm certainly going to use more toilet paper to smoothen the surface! I red that a bigger oil spill spread on the water at the portside of the ship - despite the torpedo hit the ship on the starboard side. I can't espy it on the picture but I want to paint it too.
Post Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:56 am
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
The figures are looking great! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

The sea looks very good also. But make sure you don't make it look like a storm unless you intend to. For more normal conditions (with crew on the decks), make the waves a lot smaller (in 1/700, a 5mm wave is actually 3,5m tall!) and of course use less white water.
Post Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:47 pm
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Hello Guys!

I put aside the ship for a while and continued with the seabase probe. The PVA-oat combination hardened well, so I moved forward and applied several layer of toilet paper soaked in the PVA to soften the rough surface that the oat had been given (is it grammaticaly correct? I lost in the tenses :scratch: ). After that I painted it with dark blue and covered the waves with lighter blue. Then I applied 3D gel medium. I Also painted the tips of the waves with white but the effect happened to be terrible, so I tried to hide the marks with cotton bits fixed with gel medium to the affected areas. I'm not fully delighted with the overall picture but better than my previous ones.

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In the meantime when the probe was drying I started the figures with Marijn's baking powder plus CA glue technique. It worked better and better after some practice. I think my baking powder's consistency isn't enough fine. The figures had too big bicarbonate christals and I cuoldn't manage to make them better with sanding or scratching. Maybe next time I will find smoother material like flour. Anyway, they are soo tiny it is not a problem for the naked eye. Some of them are quite good, most of them are fine enough and some of them are hilarious.

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Oh, yeah, I have found my 3D figures, they are even smaller than the PE ones! Little bastards...

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Thats for today, now I have to go for an eye surgery (just joking).

Cheers
Post Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:56 pm
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
Marijn!

It was sodium bicarbonate. As you wrote down your ideas, I'm sure that the amount of glue would be the problem, too big droplets. I have 3D figures somewhere, but I lost them in my private chaos-cabinet.

I started a test base. I found Chris Flodberg's oat and glue method quite intresting and I love the result, so I give it a try. I chose that type of artificial water because Yahagi was heavily attacked, so the water was very uneven, but no waves were seen. As a difference I used PVA glue instead of CA. It's cheaper, and I have a big jar full of it at home :) Hope it will give comperable result. I thing it won't be as hard as with the CA technque. We'll see.

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This is only a small test wood, 10x5 cm or so, that's why the oats look so big. The actual model will be placed on a 32x16 cm base.

Ammunition boxes, small hatches and different size of vents are placed, washed.

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The deck is getting more and more crowded. Rigging and figures left!
Post Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:53 am
  Post subject:  Re: 1/700 IJN Yahagi (Tamiya plus FiveStar photoetch)  Reply with quote
aaron_at_midway wrote:
The baking powder coagulated in big, rough balls... :Mad_6:


Mmm, that's weird! Maybe the powder was not fine enough? Maybe try again with a different brand? Make sure it is a sodium bicarbonate type, not one of the flour types.
Or maybe the drops of superglue were too big? I found 0,1mm copper wire ideal for applying little drops of superglue to the figures.

Other people also have had success with applying thick layers of paint or white glue. The disadvantage is that those need multiple layers and therefore applications to get a good 3D-effect, so it is more time-consuming.

And of course there is the more expensive way, which was not available yet in 1/700 when I built that model: buying 3D-printed sailors from for example Northstar or shelf Oddity... :)

Maybe we'll meet in Moson? :wave_1:
Post Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:05 am
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Thank you Marijn, good to hear such kind words from an experienced modeler like you!

Unfortunately I think I will not be able to bring it with me to the show. I hope the ship will be built that time, but I have to make the seabase for it - and have to practice before I make the actual one - and order a case for it. Because it is going to be an in-war diorama scene, I am planning to make a lot of figures for it, AA gunners mostly, and I want to try your method to make the PE sailors a bit more 3D-ish. I tried it before, at my IJN port diorama last year but I failed so hard. The baking powder coagulated in big, rough balls... :Mad_6: I'm not as pertinacious as you I guess.
Post Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:01 am
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Very nice detailing and painting! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

I see you are from Hungary. Will you bring this model to the show in Mosonmagyarovar?
Post Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:24 am
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Thanks, Pascalemod!

Then, more PE of course :)

I have made all of the single mount (28) and triple mount (10) AA guns. Easy. I will wash them with black.
I also put additional small details on the deck like ladders, deep charge holders - one full, one empty -, all of the railings, the boat, searchlights etc.

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On the original picture posted earlier two sheets can be seen on the airplane deck, I made them of aluminium foil (normal baking foil). It can be seen on the abovementioned shot that the reconnoisant plane was slipped to the right from the catapult, so I glued it like on the picture. I covered its canopy with alufoil aswell.

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In my opinion the accommodation ladders were suspended to the railing next to the first main turret, I covered them and glued them in place.

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More small details like ammunition boxes, destroyed bollads, vents later!

Cheers!
Post Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:52 am

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