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[quote="Caravellarella"]Hello [color=#800000][b]Miroslaw[/b][/color]; it's a [size=150][b]VERY[/b][/size] long time since I heard from you! The book has more; much, much more than the [b]Marines Éditions[/b] trilogy including totally new illustrations and an in-depth and definitive analysis of [b]Clemenceau[/b], [b]Gascogne[/b] and [b]Alsace[/b]. I cannot recommend this book enough; so go and buy a copy as soon as you can! :thumbs_up_1:

All very best wishes,

[b][color=#800000]Terry[/color][/b].[/quote]

I ordered my copy. I hope we will live long enough to see also other books devoted to Marine Nationale ships (cruisers and my beloved Contre-Torpilleurs)

Best Regards

First off, I love the book - the colour drawings are fantastic; and there is a wealth of information (text and illustrations) to be had. However, my copy has an odd error - there are 3 double pages (i.e. the left page and the right page as you look at the book) that are entirely blank - no page numbers...nuthin'. I don't have the book handy right now, but these pages are all in the last quarter of the book - I believe they are all in the chapter on the completion of Jean Bart. Anyone else have the same issue in their copies?

Got my copy too. Well worth seeking out.

Cheers,

Rob

Hello [color=#800000][b]Miroslaw[/b][/color]; it's a [size=150][b]VERY[/b][/size] long time since I heard from you! The book has more; much, much more than the [b]Marines Éditions[/b] trilogy including totally new illustrations and an in-depth and definitive analysis of [b]Clemenceau[/b], [b]Gascogne[/b] and [b]Alsace[/b]. I cannot recommend this book enough; so go and buy a copy as soon as you can! :thumbs_up_1:

All very best wishes,

[b][color=#800000]Terry[/color][/b].

[quote="Caravellarella"]My copy arrived today, at lunchtime. I've waited all my life for this book; so I almost asphyxiated when it arrived in my office :big_grin:

Anyway, I managed to pull myself together and carry on with the working day battling publishers over Authors' advances on royalties (Bad Bloomsbury Publishing, Bad BBC Audiobooks, good Hodder & Stoughton, good Penguin). The book is lovely at a glance; almost enough to inspire to make a model, almost......

Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])[/quote]

Hello Terry,

I'm very curious about Dunkerque/Strasbourg section. Is there much more (if any) when compared to Mr. Dumas' Les cuirasses Dunkerque et Strasbourg published by Marines Editions in 1993 and reprinted as triple softback with Richelieu and Jean Bart in 2000s.

Regards Miroslaw Mandrysz

The book is awesome. Well written and easy to comprehend...

Well done to the authors for their effort. The pictures and plans are also a huge ammount of work by themshelves...

I utterly recommend it :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

My copy arrived today, at lunchtime. I've waited all my life for this book; so I almost asphyxiated when it arrived in my office :big_grin:

Anyway, I managed to pull myself together and carry on with the working day battling publishers over Authors' advances on royalties (Bad Bloomsbury Publishing, Bad BBC Audiobooks, good Hodder & Stoughton, good Penguin). The book is lovely at a glance; almost enough to inspire to make a model, almost......

Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])

Today I was informed that my book was shipped from UK. So it will get to me by the ebd of this week I hope.

And it is now listed by amazon.co.uk as "available/in stock"

Let us hope that it does not suffer the sophomoric editing problems that plague the recently-published Italian battleships book.


This new volume may rekindle my scratchbuilding fire after having been drawn for over a year. [i]Dunkerque[/i] in 1:600....with [i]Repulse[/i] and [i]Renown[/i] alongside....yes, I think i can feel the burn already! :woo_hoo:

:wave_1:

Amazon.co.uk has the book available for preorder...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/French-Battleships-1922-1956-John-Jordan/dp/1848320345/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253448341&sr=1-1

It is about time something to this level of detail was published on these most interesting of Battleships IN ENGLISH
Look forward to seeing, buying and reading it! :thumbs_up_1:

According to John Jordan, the book will cover :
- 1921-1935 : various projects studied during and after the Washington conferences
- Dunkerque and Strasbourg
- Richelieu and Jean-Bart
- Clemenceau and Gascogne
- Some notes about the so-called Alsace

John did many original drawings and plans, many never published before
Robert Dumas told me he managed to find rare pictures for this book.
Bertrand Magueur did 22 splendid colour profiles, including a "yellow" camouflaged Jean-Bart at Casablanca

[quote] But French battlecruisers and battleships between 1921-1955 that would cover only 4 ships![/quote]


Since the book starts off in 1922 I'm sure there would have to be info on the Courbet and Bretagne class ships from WW I, but were modified between WW I and WW II. That's another 7 ships to add to the 4 completed ships of the Dunkerque and Richelieu classes (plus Clemenceau and Gascogne. So I'll be saving my pennies in the meantime so I can buy the book when it comes out.

That is a must have... Cant wait...

Received this leaflet from John Jordan :

[img]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/bgire/Divers/BookJordan.jpg[/img]

French author Luc Feron published a comprehensive study of the "Sample Navy" (Hoche, Brennus, Marceau, Neptune, Massena, Magenta, Carnot and Bouvet) twenty years ago in the French publication "Marine Magazine"
Many are OOP and should not be republished, alas.

Some are still available here :
http://www.marines-editions.fr/boutique/liste_produits.cfm?type=6&code_lg=lg_fr&num=3
Browse into the two magazines :
- Marines et forces navales
- Marines magazine

Far more interesting would be a book titled [i]Jules Vernesque Battleships and Armoured Cruisers of the French Navy 1880-1910[/i]

.....myVIRTUAL order is already placed...!

JB

EXCELLENT news! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

About this forthcoming book :

You'll be interested to know that John Jordan is working on a major book on French battleships, with the help of Robert Dumas, Harold Winkel and me (we "re-discovered" the plan for Gasgogne and Clemenceau).
This book ([u]in English[/u]) will cover the period 1921-1956 and should be published by the fourth quarter of 2009.
This will include :
- a comprehensive introduction (the French Navy 1906-1921)
- a "Washington treaty" chapter (1921-1931) which should include for the first time ever plans of the 37,000t battle cruiser project of 1927 I re-discovered
(see here http://www.phpbbplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1044&mforum=warshipprojects )
and the genesis of the Dunkerque and Strasbourg.
- a couple of "extensive monographs" on the French BBs from Dunkerque to Jean-Bart, both technical and historical.
- damage studies (Mer El Kebir, Dakar, Casablanca) with plenty of data and drawings.
- an extensive chapter on the never built Clemenceau and Gascogne, with reconstructed plans, again for the first time.

Most important, this will bring a major upgrade from the OOP Dumas books by incorporating the new data collected from the French archives since the '80s, along with plenty of new drawings and pictures.

John Jordan is writing the book and doing a lot of original drawings
Robert Dumas supplied data and pictures
I supplied plans for the 37,000t battlecruiser project of 1928, Clemenceau and Gascogne
Harold Winkel did the mamoth task of completely re-drawing the Clemenceau and Gascogne plan in a CAD form

New data were "discovered" my me among the French Naval archives.


See my report about this here :
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24966

Bruno Gire
Bordeaux, France

Alsace. Yuck. :big_grin:

Anway- in english or french?