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Phil

There is no extra buoyancy in this 1/48th scale slim shallow hull, for inserting the water powered smoke generators, currently in vogue. This model like my previous model (HMS Velox) is fitted with the Graupner 6V smoke generators. These are originally designed for model trains. I have found that they work well and safely on 7.2V and make a good amount of smoke. I fitted one in each funnel casing and then then put a small 12V (laptop cooling) fan, running on 4.8V, in the hull. The [u]slight draft[/u] from this is ducted to the funnel bases with 20mm plastic tube. This ensures the smoke comes out realistically rather than just drifting out. The smoke units were modified to increase their oil capacity to extend running time. Smoke units and fan are controlled by a servo fitted with a plastic cam and two micro switches. Smoke running time about 30min.
The down side is that the main model power(6V), the receiver power(4.8V), the smoke unit power(7.2V) and the fan power(4.8V) each have a separate battery and on board charging circuit so charging the model involves plugging in 4 different chargers! The plus is that there is no radio interference and nothing on board is draining power from another function. This system has been working faultlessly for 3 years in my other model which has 3 funnels (3 Graupner smoke units).

[color=#FF0040]WARNING[/color] Running these units on 7.2V seems to be fine (3 years fault free) but I always use the manufacturers own smoke oil. Using other oils (with lower flash points) might be risky. Going onto any higher voltage than 7.2V is very risky. I can not be held responsible for any thing going wrong. Everything worked fine for me but bench test everything first.

Good luck

PICKETBOAT

Picketboat,

Nice model! The smoke does make a great effect. What type of smoke generator did you use?

Phil

Great to see your model! Looking forward to your youtube link when you have time and wish to make a video.

My V106 in 1:200 is frozen as some other projects and is a low priority for me at now - I got into wooden kit (partwork) building (Spanish galeon) strongly requested by my junior and I could not resist - and as this (working with wood and saling ships in general) also a new area for me I move veeeery slowly esp as 1:1 world makes new challenges. Sorry not to meet expectations but it is as it is.

Would be happy to see pics of V105-108 ships in this thread whoever would like to do so.

Cheers,

Yevgeniy

Yevgeniy and and other contacts.

Sorry but I slightly side tracked the end of this very informative thread by asking questions about other torpedo vessels.
I picked up lots of interesting and informative facts and tips about the V105 to V108 class, and still look forward to seeing the completed 1:200 model.
The 1/48th model I built of V105 had been sailing this season but I have yet to get any decent film footage to post on youtube. It will get done though. Thought you might like a still image. Careful attention to weight distribution makes it a great model to sail and fitting smoke units adds a nice effect.


Good modelling
PICKETBOAT

Stephen
:good_job: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Richard

I have already built a model of a Yarrow 125ft torpedo boat of 1881 and am looking for a suitable torpedo delivery vessel from another country (same period) to build. This thread has given me lots to think about and research.
The Yarrow vessel surprised me with its sailing qualities but the ram bow does kick water over the fore deck just like the prototype.

Stephen

Nice work,I love the way those things looked . :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

For those interested in the early Schichau-torpedoboats this might be of interest:

[url]http://www.smc-wuppertal.de/Schiffe/S%2033/S33.htm[/url]

It's the 1:100 RC model of the S 33 I built a few years ago. For this boat you can get a good plan f.e. here: [url]http://www.christian-schmidt.com/product_info.php?products_id=2628[/url].

Stephen,

If you are interested in Kasatka type torpedo boat serving in Tsar fleet built in Schichau there is a good book with enough plans http://www.ruslania.com/language-1/entity-1/context-321/details-77721.html Also there is a thread on Russian forum, photos and plans are self-explanatory http://forums.airbase.ru/2012/02/t60412,5--vopros-po-em-bditelnyj-kit-2.9164.html - after looking through that thread you will not find too much new information in the book I gave the reference to above.

Unfortunately I have not seen any plans for "Leitenant Ilin" torpedo cruiser so I can not be of much help. If you decide on particular 'torpedo gunboat or a small cruiser' from Russian Tsar fleet let me know and I will try to give you a link to Russian forumsfor plans and photos (if it is not a very rare ship in which case plans might be unavailable except in archives) if you are interested.

Cheers,

Yevgeniy

Yevgeniy

Thanks for the reply. What a coincidence that you should be interested in building the Schichua built early torpedo boats. I did have a idea that I might build one of these vessels at some stage. To this end, I opened a file and started getting together pictures and plans, but decided I could not get enough information. I'm sure you will have a better access to information than me, but if it is any help I am willing to share what I have. I also considered building the "Leitenant Ilin" torpedo cruiser of 1885 and again collected pictures but lacked a decent set of plans to make the project worth while. I did get some good photos but only small drawings and general deck arrangments which were not accurate enough. I was intending building it also at 1/48th scale (all my models are this same scale). Having built two destroyers I would like to build something a little larger next time, either a torpedo gunboat or small cruiser from the 1880's or 1890's.

Stephen

Thank you, sir! :big_grin: That one (Sokol-type) is a must build for me so I will not let myself more projects before finishing others - I have now 3 at workshop :heh:

Cheers,

Yevgeniy

I have plans for Buiny and would like to make a hull someday .I am still watching . :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Stephen, hi!

Thank you for undeserved praise as I have not proceeded forward with V106 from the stage of the hull building and switched to other projects not least because I understood that I was wrong with making my own drawings of the hull. My main mistake was wrong deck lines (longitudinal curvature) which lead to other mistakes as all proportions of the hull are interrelated. Of course in small scale as 1:200 this can be disregarded. But I really do not know whether I will return to V106 as I started wooden kit of a galleon and it is veeery time-consuming :smallsmile: plus I got real drawings of another very attractive Schichau early torpedobooten (called Kasatka serving in Russian fleet - here is its sistership photo http://navsource.narod.ru/photos/03/186/03186001.jpg) somewhat reminding V106 of course very different but you know that having a good drawing is half the business and I really like Kasatka.

I am glad you found this thread to be useful. Would be happy to see your model on water esp. in choppy water when you have the video - hope you will post the link here. At least someone would finish one of those torpedooboots in this thread :heh:

Unfortunalely I do not know the reason for those 'shapes' on the mast and also suspect it is a kind of identification.

Thank you for lifting this thread - hope I will see a ready V106 torpedoboot if not at my workbench than at hands of some other happy owner :wave_1:

Cheers,

Yevgeniy

Yevgeniy

I have been keeping a close watch on this thread and it has been very very help full ,Thanks to yourself and to every one who contributed.
I have spent the last 3 years building V105 in the traditional imperial (and old fashioned) scale of 1/48th and have incorporated much of the information gleaned here. The plug and subsequent glass fibre hull mould I made took 6 months of my spare time. Making vac forming and casting moulds for all the deck detail took another 9 months.
At this larger scale the model (which has just undergone sea trials) performs very well. I have great admiration for modelers like yourself working at very small scales. Even at 1/48th my eyesight struggles with some of the detail.
I too wanted the model to be finished in the early war colours of very dark grey/black with the "much discussed" red/brown anti-foul below the water line. The end result looks very "Teutonic" and on the water, particularly hard to see, which does not help sailing the model at a distance!
What I really want to do now now is to film the model underway in some realistic North Sea conditions (choppy water on a large lake) and post the footage on youtube later in the year.
Have you photos of your model finished?
Can any one else help me identify the strange shaped (some square, some round, some triangular) shapes hung halfway up the fore mast on many of these German destroyers. Were they some sort of identification signal? Should one be on V105.
Keep up the excellent modelling.

Stephen

Hi Dave, thank you for your interest in this project, definitely V106 is too small for RC - I work on Stereguyschiy (Sokol type) torpedo boat of Russo-Japanese war in 1:100 which I am going to make RC - I have not made a thread for her as I want to go through a middle of that project before posting photos - I start to become too superstitious with too many models no finished :smallsmile: Here is her photo 2 weeks ago
[url=http://radikal.ru/F/s004.radikal.ru/i205/1105/2c/da590cbf3803.jpg.html][img]http://s004.radikal.ru/i205/1105/2c/da590cbf3803t.jpg[/img][/url]
Now I fill her with styrophore (used for ceilings in construction) - no photos so far - but it looks like previous Sokol hull I discarded because I did not use 'slipway' and it got distorted at the end (water containing white glue which works with styropore and similar glues make cardboard used for ribs distorted - I did not want using heavier material for ribs as it is too small ship for ply ribs for instance and it would be harder to cut them)
[url=http://radikal.ru/F/s58.radikal.ru/i161/1105/b3/765f945b76ee.jpg.html][img]http://s58.radikal.ru/i161/1105/b3/765f945b76eet.jpg[/img][/url]
except that new one is strait at least now - I keep fingers crossed it will remain so :smallsmile:

Cheers,

Yevgeniy

Hi Yevgeiny Just caught up with your post. Will your V106 be R/C or are you looking towards a larger model? Keep up the good work always good to see you posting.
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Thanks Richard, actually I also can not wait to see more of my V106 :big_grin: - I will remember there is another person who wants to see my ship - so I will continue - but RC guy first (I just dream of going for RC-boating :smallsmile: with my ship)

Cheers,

Yevgeniy

This is a interesting subject .Can't wait to see more . :big_grin: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Thank you Capitão - your appreciation is another urge for me not to forget this hull in my workshop :smallsmile: - will return when I have further progress on it.

Cheers, :wave_1:

Yevgeniy

Hi Yev good pictures :wave_1: