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Re: 1/72 Glencoe 110' Subchasers rebuilt as Rum Runners |
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This is an awesome thread. I can't wait for more!!!!!!!
This is an awesome thread. I can't wait for more!!!!!!!
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 3:17 pm |
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This is a cool build you have going on. I have built two of these kits,...one as a ww1 type and 1 as a ww2 Panama canal type runner in basic navy attire of the time period. Am surely interested in this "RUM RUNNER" build!
These small ships do not have lots of fans per say..but I will be watching this with interest!
Carry on!
This is a cool build you have going on. I have built two of these kits,...one as a ww1 type and 1 as a ww2 Panama canal type runner in basic navy attire of the time period. Am surely interested in this "RUM RUNNER" build!
These small ships do not have lots of fans per say..but I will be watching this with interest!
Carry on!
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 3:49 pm |
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Re: 1/72 Glencoe 110' Subchasers rebuilt as Rum Runners |
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Part of the fun (and mental exercise) of this thread is the 'why & how' of small ship redesign. As mentioned, there's not a ton of visual reference material on what modifications were done - which leaves tons of latitude for interpretation. The end-state for this is something sleek, that could easily be a pre-WW2 party fishing boat.  In this case, I opted to move the deck structures further foreward. No digital CAD-camming, just old school cut-n-paste.   Which leaves us with something like this -    Part of the fun (and mental exercise) of this thread is the 'why & how' of small ship redesign. As mentioned, there's not a ton of visual reference material on what modifications were done - which leaves tons of latitude for interpretation.
The end-state for this is something sleek, that could easily be a pre-WW2 party fishing boat.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/ceSvOIf.jpg[/img]
In this case, I opted to move the deck structures further foreward. No digital CAD-camming, just old school cut-n-paste.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/i7ghDAr.jpg?1[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Qj5kodo.jpg?1[/img]
Which leaves us with something like this -
[img]https://i.imgur.com/A9C8QhH.jpg?1[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/vvnAUdH.jpg?1[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/x2fRNFJ.jpg?1[/img]
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:25 am |
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Re: 1/72 Glencoe 110' Subchasers rebuilt as Rum Runners |
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Might as well pack a parrallel (and as yet un-named) build into this thread.
This was another built-but-suffering ebay acquisition that I intended to convert to a waterline model.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/dTa6GCo.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/NxsJ90c.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/NoNPtlS.jpg?1[/img]
Observation - old plastic can be brittle.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/PseDase.jpg?1[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/SEEzcxb.jpg?1[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/9QHQZd1.jpg?1[/img]
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:17 am |
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Adjusted deck plan.  I fail to see how 1,800 cases could be squeezed into that hull, no matter how much stowage was gained post-war. Deck cargo would be mandatory (which are re-purposed cotton bales swiped from Revell's Riverboat kit).  Smugglers traditionally keep small boats on board so that if they have to ground or otherwise abandon their vessel, at least the crew has a decent chance of escaping. The dory supplied in the kit would never hold all twelve crew, so a second was sourced from the spares box. The repositioned rear deckhouse, being closer to the deck, was better suited for quick-release boat racks.   Adjusted deck plan.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/H26q10u.jpg?1[/img]
I fail to see how 1,800 cases could be squeezed into that hull, no matter how much stowage was gained post-war. Deck cargo would be mandatory (which are re-purposed cotton bales swiped from Revell's Riverboat kit).
[img]https://i.imgur.com/eVudvjN.jpg?2[/img]
Smugglers traditionally keep small boats on board so that if they have to ground or otherwise abandon their vessel, at least the crew has a decent chance of escaping. The dory supplied in the kit would never hold all twelve crew, so a second was sourced from the spares box. The repositioned rear deckhouse, being closer to the deck, was better suited for quick-release boat racks.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/KDkFYJF.jpg?1[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/ZxV8wEL.jpg?1[/img]
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:48 am |
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Re: 1/72 1925 Rumrunner KING FISHER |
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Note: several of these vessels were sold on 24 June 1921 to scrapper Joseph G. Hitner of Philadelphia, PA. http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/01idx.htmThose sold off to the private market were pretty beat.  So, we're going from warship to pirate/smuggling vessel without much documentation on the specific ship and only what we know of rum runner tactics to guide us on what *should* be considered with this scratchbuild. 1) No guns. 2) It's gonna be Navy grey (and most pics of them show varying levels of scruffiness) 3) bigger engines removed.  The tactics of the era dictated that the shuttling craft pick up their cargo from larger ships sitting on "Rum Row" (originally 3 miles off the US coast, later extended to 12) and then run the booze in to pre-arranged meeting spots on shore - this dictated either speed or stealth.  Since we'll assume the Kingfisher had smaller engines (or just retained one of it's originals), stealth it is (which goes along with the Navy grey paint job). All ordnance goes away.  
[b]Note: [/b]several of these vessels were sold on 24 June 1921 to scrapper Joseph G. Hitner of Philadelphia, PA.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/01idx.htm
Those sold off to the private market were pretty beat.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/h2RmqhX.jpg[/img]
So, we're going from warship to pirate/smuggling vessel without much documentation on the specific ship and only what we know of rum runner tactics to guide us on what *should* be considered with this scratchbuild.
1) No guns. 2) It's gonna be Navy grey (and most pics of them show varying levels of scruffiness) 3) bigger engines removed.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/5OkEDDw.jpg[/img]The tactics of the era dictated that the shuttling craft pick up their cargo from larger ships sitting on "Rum Row" (originally 3 miles off the US coast, later extended to 12) and then run the booze in to pre-arranged meeting spots on shore - this dictated either speed or stealth. [img]https://i.imgur.com/cAjbL5G.jpg[/img]
Since we'll assume the Kingfisher had smaller engines (or just retained one of it's originals), stealth it is (which goes along with the Navy grey paint job). All ordnance goes away.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/f7dPECK.jpg?1[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/FrxYhTz.jpg?1[/img]
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:36 pm |
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Note: original title 1/72 1925 Rumrunner KING FISHER amended to include a parrallel water-lined build of a similar vessel.1/72 1925 Rumrunner KING FISHER As mentioned in this post, I'd been planning to do an interpretation of the ancient ITC/Glencoe 110' Subchaser.     Hmmm... how much room would 800 cases require? Or 1,800? I'd started out with a pre-built, unpainted and somewhat battered ITC/Glencoe 1/74th scale Subhunter. Thanks, Ebay, for your bargain-basement salvage!  The SUBCHASER ARCHIVES is the best one-stop repository of reference material on this class. For tips specific to this kit, see https://www.subchaser.org/glencoe-kit-notes and https://www.subchaser.org/glencoeFirst requirement was stripping off everything extraneous.  
[b]Note: original title 1/72 1925 Rumrunner KING FISHER amended to include a parrallel water-lined build of a similar vessel.[/b]
1/72 1925 Rumrunner KING FISHER
As mentioned in this [url=http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=152229&hilit=subchaser#p734749]post[/url], I'd been planning to do an interpretation of the ancient ITC/Glencoe 110' Subchaser.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/eIgBhN6.jpg?1[/img][img]https://i.imgur.com/6JN2LR3.jpg[/img][img]https://i.imgur.com/AzS9vU9.jpg?1[/img][img]https://i.imgur.com/TtCyZ8w.jpg[/img]
Hmmm... how much room would 800 cases require? Or 1,800?
I'd started out with a pre-built, unpainted and somewhat battered ITC/Glencoe 1/74th scale Subhunter. Thanks, Ebay, for your bargain-basement salvage!
[img]https://i.imgur.com/cqUVsUI.png?1[/img]
The SUBCHASER ARCHIVES is the best one-stop repository of reference material on this class.
For tips specific to this kit, see https://www.subchaser.org/glencoe-kit-notes and https://www.subchaser.org/glencoe
First requirement was stripping off everything extraneous. [img]https://i.imgur.com/6oMS7MR.jpg?1[/img][img]https://i.imgur.com/3jA2pMp.jpg?1[/img]
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:37 am |
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