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Topic review - 1/192 Scale FFG Concept
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I cannot stop thinking about the FFG Concept and have continued to draw variations since finishing my FFG-63 model in 2018. I was pleased when the Fincantieri Marinette team recently won the contract for the U.S. Navy’s new frigate and my latest drawing is a good cross between the FFG-63 model and the Italian FREMM. The two photos contrast this new design and the FFG-63 model. The ship has been shortened by 10 feet to 475 feet overall to better match the FREMM. The radar tower was lowered by 10 feet compared to the FFG-63 and the upper section is hexagonal instead of square.
I absolutely refuse to accept a 57mm main gun for a ship this size and am sticking with the 5-inch 62 caliber mount. I did compromise with 48 vertical launch missile cells, splitting the difference between 64 on the FFG-63 and the US Navy’s requirement for 32 cells. That was mitigated by adding 8 cannisters for the Naval Strike Missile in a gap between the radar tower and the stack. I had previously assumed that the anti-ship missiles would be part of the VLS loadout. But for now, the NSM has no provision for vertical launch.
The FFG-63 model included two imaginary combined gun/missile close-in weapon mounts, above the pilothouse and above the hanger. The Navy wanted a RAM launcher instead, so for realism this time I put a 21-round RAM launcher in each of those locations. I also added two remote 25mm chain guns above the hanger since the real ships will have 25mm or 30mm guns installed regardless of the minimum contract requirements.
The new drawing is named USS Jonathan Yale (FFG-65). Corporal Yale was one of two U.S. Marines who gave their lives in Ramadi, Iraq in April 2008 while defending their shipmates from a truck bomb. Their story can be found here. https://www.businessinsider.com/john-kellys-speech-about-marines-in-ramadi-2013-6
I’m not sure if I will actually build this model or just be satisfied with the drawing. Stay tuned.


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Post Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 4:19 pm
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Michael,
Thanks for the encouragement and offer. Actually I lost the PE links that you provided last summer. All I can find online is in 1/350 and 1/700 scale. Any help on sources for PE lifelines and helo deck nets would be appreciated.
Post Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:41 pm
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Looking Great Mike!

WoW!

Fantastic work. If you need any help with the PE, LMK.
Post Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:08 pm
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Really, really fantastic! Great job!!!
Post Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:55 pm
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Looks great! Sad to think that the Littoral Combat Ships are still being built and this is not!
Post Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:03 pm
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The USS SAMUEL B ROBERTS (FFG-63) is now complete except for PE lifelines and safety nets. Those will happen when I've experimented with technique on the previous FFG-62 model.
Time to start making some drawings for my automonous surface combatant. See viewtopic.php?f=67&t=167112


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:59 pm
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Keeping the signal halyards taut while the glue dries.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:48 pm
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Hi Mike,
nice to see that the "project ships club" is going strong ! Such good fun to see how different the results are starting from different philosophies of the thing...
My youngest son, 25, is propulsion/energy officer in the French Navy (currently on BPC TONNERRE), and I can't avoid his comments about the many shortcuts of my projects...
Please go on with your fine work : can't wait as well to see how the next one will look like !
Cheers from Omaha Beach : the US Navy is not forgotten down here for sure, and this coming sunday, November 11th, will be one more occasion to celebrate how much our countries are linked by history.
Stephane
Post Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:08 am
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I am whittling a couple drogues for a refueling at sea rig. The right side of the piece is a partially completed drogue. The left side shows how it started, and will become a second drogue. The hose and pipe will be made from brass rod.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:37 pm
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I haven't had much time to work on the model over the last month. Here's some progress on the details. The bitts and chocks are made from index card and scrap wood. The satcom domes are glass marbles. The main gun mount and the two radar antennas are cannabilized from FFG-62. I'll also be reusing one of the anchors, which isn't attached yet.


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Post Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:57 pm
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Continuing to work through the long list of details to be added for a finished model. The watertight doors, vertical ladders, engine intake and ventilation grills, and DESRON 9 crest are all images from the 2D printer.


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Post Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:57 pm
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Between major projects, or in the middle of a really difficult project, a half-model can be a simple and enjoyable distraction. They are (relatively) quick to make since you're only making half, and they are generally focused on the hull without the detailed finish work. They can either be hung directly on a wall or be mounted via a board that can be decorated. They also lend themselves to display in places that would otherwise remain empty. I like to put half models above doorways.
Unlike traditional half-models which are carved from boards glued or pegged together, I make mine plank-on-bulkhead. It's what I do.
My references for the Balao class fleet sub were the Historical Naval Ships Association for a booklet of general plans, and Navsource.org for photos and the wartime letter of instruction for submarine camouflage. Information on the schooner came from Howard I. Chapelle's book The American Fishing Schooners 1825-1935, published in 1973, which I picked up at Mystic Seaport Museun in the mid-1990s. Images and information on Elizabethan galleons was from a Google search which I failed to document.
http://www.hnsa.org/resources/manuals-documents/booklets-of-general-plans-online/
http://navsource.org/archives/08/pdf/0849201.pdf


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:21 am
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Great work Mike!
Post Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:11 am
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Here are some photos showing my progress in painting details that are better done before the decks are cluttered with stuff.


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Post Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:32 am
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Great work Mike! Fantastic build so far!!!
Post Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:32 am
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More progress on the tower.


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:37 am
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Progress on the stack and radar tower.


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:12 am
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David, I originally used the tool in the upper right corner of the first picture here. I think it was too long, so it was difficult to adjust to the precise marking height, and it jittered when moving across the hull.
The second photo shows today's rig to mark the hull a second time. This one was made up of stacked wood pieces that fortunately worked out to the correct height for the bottom edge of the black boot topping. Adding a quarter inch piece provided the correct height for the top of the black. And it fit my hand easily for firm control, sliding across the tabletop. The bubble level and tape keeping the hull stable on the stand ensured that the hull was properly leveled for uniform results on both sides. I just made pencil marks every inch or two that I'll connect with the tape for new black stripe. Fortunately I don't need to cover misplaced black with red or gray.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:07 pm
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I recall my post on the previous page from 27 April, where I talked about marking the waterline for later painting. Turned out that was a pathetic job. I was getting set up to paint the draft marks and discovered that the black boot topping was only 3/16 inch high instead of the designed 4/16 inch. Just a 25% error. Carefully measuring heights above the baseline to see whether I needed to raise the upper edge or lower the bottom edge of the black, I discovered the answer is yes; it's not consistent along the model's length. Some rework is required.
I suppose a laser level would have provided better results, but those are a bit expensive for this hobby. Is it Friday yet?
Post Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:05 am
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This last week has been mainly painting. I use acrylic paints from the craft store, applied with a brush, and using blue painter's tape.


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