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Thanks! I went a little crazy on this one, given that mostly you'll see the tail through an open hangar door... :) I will have to do something a bit more interesting with it, once I've finally got the KGV model(s) in a better state. Loooooots of work to do on that yet though. I seem to prefer starting new things over carrying on with that at the moment, unfortunately.

World-class design work. Superb.

Well that was only a very short delay.... but I have finally got around to finishing off my Walrus :)

I made a little video of the finished model, here: https://youtu.be/NxqbPTl3Kc8


Here are some final renders of it (4K versions available on ArtStation: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/zDLwX6)

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I should probably get back to work on the ship now... looks like I've been putting it off for long enough!

I hadn't seen it - thanks! Some nice reference material there for all manner of ship's fittings too

P. R.,

Have you seen this video of the HMS London? It has some very good images of the walrus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJIp7kQ8D0o

P. R.

Superb! :big_grin:

Beautiful! The modelling, that is. I'm not sure anyone would call the Walrus beautiful except it's mother.

Phil

Thanks! You're not wrong - somewhat over a year later, and I have just finished modelling this thing... still have the material work to go though. The ships themselves are still a long way from completion, and I'm already gearing up for more!

I spent quite a while working on the Bristol Pegasus engine. It's quite an attractive example of a radial engine, so this was quite enjoyable work.
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I omitted the rear of the engine since it would be entirely hidden inside the nacelle pod.


I got a little bogged down on interior details. Since the cockpit area is quite open, you can see a lot, so I added in everything I could see around the pilot's seat...
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The rear hatch is rigged up and can be positioned however I please. A Vickers K machine gun could be mounted on the track visible inside the hatch opening (similarly in the fore hatch), but I haven't modelled one of these so far. I might later, or I might not.
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I missed out the tail wheel when I built the main landing gear. It's more of a skid on this version of the aircraft, with a small metal castor set into it for protecting the decks of aircraft carriers. Again, this is fully adjustable.
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And a few extra renders showing various small details and overall shots...
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More info and renders here: http://www.prdobson.com/2019/08/18/supermarine-walrus-mk-i-part-2/

Very nice work! The plane is a modeling project in itself.

One of these days I will have to take on the SH-2 Seasprite helicopter we had on board. I haven't found many useful drawings, but I have a lot of photos. Like you, I am ready to finish my project, and I know the helo will take a long time.

Phil

Well I've been distracted from the ship the last few months by working on a Supermarine Warlus to go onboard...

Most of the major modelling work is done at this point, the Pegasus engine aside. I decided to ensure that the landing gear actually functioned correctly, at the expense of a little visual accuracy. It's very hard to find decent plans for this plane, but I think I'm close enough with this.

Earlier render, with the wings folded back. I think I rebuilt the wings after this image, since I didn't have the ailerons quite right:
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As the model is now, landing gear down:
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And gear up...
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And a quick peek into the interior... I won't go too over the top in here, pretty much just seats and flight controls planned...
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I think I've seen some of that video. Some good material in there.

No modelling this time around (aside from a slight adjustment in the positions of some of the lower deck foward portholes), but I have completely redone the hull normal map. Looking at these renders, I'm considering regenerating the maps with slightly more prominent plate overlaps, but otherwise I'm happy with it. Not the easiest thing to work with - to be able to support the rivets, it needed to be 50k pixels wide :) and 4k high, give or take.

Also playing with the hull colour. With the information that AP507A and B are the same shade, I have darkened the hull down to something that is hopefully close to the correct shade. I've made it a little too dull though, so I'll be playing with reflectance settings later, when I start on the weathering.

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I recently saw a documentary on YouTube about the KGV class ships. It is part of a series called "A Sailors View" and contains all of the video footage the guy could find in the British Navy archives. Lots of pictures and not much talk. It has a lot of film shot on the ships - so lots of detail.

I know what you mean about spending more time looking at pictures than actually modeling. For me it is three to four times as much time studying photos and blueprints. That is one of the reasons it has taken me more than 10 years to get as far along as I have!

Phil

Have been very slowly plugging away at this. Spent nearly as much time looking at photos as I did modelling!

I have ripped out the old catapult. Honestly, it was so pathetic, it's not even worthy of the name:
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The Imperial War Museum has published hundreds of photos of these ships since I originally finished work on this model. They are amazing. They might be small, but there are so many of them that I can work out literally almost every detail ;) That catapult trolley though... it appears in the corners of several photos, but there are areas of it that you just can't make out clearly. I think I came up with something reasonably close to the real thing. It won't be perfect by any means, but it shouldn't be obviously wrong either.

I haven't touched any of the surrounding superstructure yet, besides opening the hangar doors a little to avoid clashing with the rails, which I have shifted slightly from their original positions. Also the bottom of those doors is totally wrong.

Quick note - my lighting seems to have become worse since the last batch of renders. I didn't spend any time setting these up, so it's entirely down to my laziness. The next updates won't be so far down the road and I intend to put some time in on getting this sorted out as it's getting embarrasing now :D

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Beautifully made model, and well done on the research.

Elegant work! Also enjoyed, on your website, the "War of the Worlds" models, especially the pre-dreadnought with the ram bow. Michael

[quote="Martocticvs"]Thanks guys.

Aop: I certainly can't say that it's exactly right, as I don't have access to the original plans. It's still necessary to just make the best guess you can for various details. But it's as close as I can make it with what I have.[/quote]
Well if you want to have access to the orginal plans, you will need to contact the National Maritime Museum. The price for the whole list of plans available is quite high, but speaking of the original, this is the one. Their website provides some contacts to request for plans.

Still, you have done a very very good job on the model! :thumbs_up_1:

Aop

Thanks guys.

Aop: I certainly can't say that it's exactly right, as I don't have access to the original plans. It's still necessary to just make the best guess you can for various details. But it's as close as I can make it with what I have.

Very nice work!

Phil

I am so envious of your 3D designing skill, Martocticvs! I can very surely rely on the new model, right? I am building a Lion class battleship 1938 model in 1/350 and many details are identical to the KGVs. If this model represents accurate enough details, then I would use it extensively. Anyway you did a really good job on it!

Also, is the Cinema 4D a free software? Is it capable of being converted to be printed at Shapeways? I wanted to create a 3D Lion hull, but so far no luck with 123D design that I am quite experieced at.
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Aop

Brilliant!