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Don't know how big A3 is, but I bought a pad of 11" x 16". Big enough for most 1/700 ships, and will last a long time!
Don't know how big A3 is, but I bought a pad of 11" x 16". Big enough for most 1/700 ships, and will last a long time! :wave_1:
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:29 pm |
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For convenience and repeatability... I buy a large A3 Pad -- and in 1/70 and 1/350 it last me a decade or so!! cheers JB
For convenience and repeatability...
I buy a large A3 Pad -- and in 1/70 and 1/350 it last me a decade or so!!
cheers JB :wave_1:
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:10 pm |
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Do you prefer the hand-made watercolor paper (usually large sheets with a rough edge), or manufactured watercolor paper, measured and cut and bound in a pad? Both are textured.
Do you prefer the hand-made watercolor paper (usually large sheets with a rough edge), or manufactured watercolor paper, measured and cut and bound in a pad? Both are textured. :wave_1:
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:48 am |
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Hello all welcome to 2021... yes--I am still using the watercolourists paper so this thread is still current! I hope it will be still useful to others JIM B
Hello all welcome to 2021...
yes--I am still using the watercolourists paper
so this thread is still current!
I hope it will be still useful to others
:wave_1: JIM B
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:09 am |
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Excellent Jim, your most helpful reply is very much appreciated!
Excellent Jim, your most helpful reply is very much appreciated! :wave_1:
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:32 pm |
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I buy pink ZAP ( by pacer ) its very runny-and very pongy--work in well ventilated area!!! I spread it with a pice of styrene and or toothpick ( no absorbent--sont use a brush or paper!! ) buying it large bottles moderates the price well... In Northern Ireland...? dunno... THESE GUYS SHIP to all UK http://www.modelshop.co.uk/Content/Dyna ... _4Dcat.pdf( PAGE 7 OF 167! ) as below
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I buy pink ZAP ( by pacer ) its very runny-and very pongy--work in well ventilated area!!!
I spread it with a pice of styrene and or toothpick ( no absorbent--sont use a brush or paper!! )
buying it large bottles moderates the price well...
In Northern Ireland...?
dunno... THESE GUYS SHIP to all UK
http://www.modelshop.co.uk/Content/DynamicMedia/cms-uploaded/files/v4_09_4Dcat.pdf
( PAGE 7 OF 167! )
as below
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:07 am |
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Hu Jim , Your two threads on how you make water from art paper are really interesting. I was originally thinking of using the Oats Bran technique as so ably explained by Chris, but am thinking of trying yours first for my 1/1250 scale ships. Before doing this, I wonder if you could just clarify how you soak the paper with the CA glue? Do you paint it on, squirt the stuff over the paper, or are you doing it in some other way? And since I'm pestering you anyway, one more thing won't make much difference... would there be any chance you could add a link to where you get the glue? I seem to only find it in small tubes, and never thin viscosity for some reason in Northern Ireland. This is another reason why I've put the Oats Bran Method on the back burner at the moment. Thanks!
Hu Jim :wave_1: ,
Your two threads on how you make water from art paper are really interesting. I was originally thinking of using the Oats Bran technique as so ably explained by Chris, but am thinking of trying yours first for my 1/1250 scale ships.
Before doing this, I wonder if you could just clarify how you soak the paper with the CA glue? Do you paint it on, squirt the stuff over the paper, or are you doing it in some other way?
And since I'm pestering you anyway, one more thing won't make much difference... would there be any chance you could add a link to where you get the glue? I seem to only find it in small tubes, and never thin viscosity for some reason in Northern Ireland. This is another reason why I've put the Oats Bran Method on the back burner at the moment.
Thanks!
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:33 am |
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I use some industrial stuff as used by double glazing installers... A near equivalent would be the ZAP runny(made by Pacer) in a pink bottle. The paper sucks the CA up like sponge--making it impervious to moisture and really quite strong too!. JIM B
I use some industrial stuff as used by double glazing installers...
A near equivalent would be the ZAP runny(made by Pacer) in a pink bottle.
The paper sucks the CA up like sponge--making it impervious to moisture and really quite strong too!.
JIM B :wave_1:
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:03 pm |
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Hi Jim-
Thanks for the great ideas, I think I shall try it- I have a question though, before I try your method-
What type of superglue do you use, and how do you apply it to the paper? I am assuming you use a non-viscous type, but was curious on your technique, as I have never saturated anything other than my floor with the stuff! Does the paper just absorb it on its own?
Thanks, and regards,
Timothy
Hi Jim-
Thanks for the great ideas, I think I shall try it- I have a question though, before I try your method-
What type of superglue do you use, and how do you apply it to the paper? I am assuming you use a non-viscous type, but was curious on your technique, as I have never saturated anything other than my floor with the stuff! Does the paper just absorb it on its own?
Thanks, and regards,
Timothy
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:03 pm |
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Francis wrote: << the paper is Bockingford Rough rather than Rockingford.>> you are of course absolutely correct- my typo... duh! >> Might save some time for anyone trying to find some!<< and then some! thanks for the observation! JIM B
Francis wrote:
<< the paper is Bockingford Rough rather than Rockingford.>>
you are of course absolutely correct- my typo... duh!
>> Might save some time for anyone trying to find some!<<
and then some!
thanks for the observation!
JIM B :wave_1:
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:50 pm |
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Jim,
Thanks indeed for an excellent article.
One small point - I think the paper is Bockingford Rough rather than Rockingford. Might save some time for anyone trying to find some!
Francis Macnaughton
Jim,
Thanks indeed for an excellent article.
One small point - I think the paper is Bockingford Rough rather than Rockingford. Might save some time for anyone trying to find some!
Francis Macnaughton
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:45 pm |
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Hi all the model is now finished except for the rigging--and the finishing of the water can now be seen here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37406 JIM B
Hi all
the model is now finished except for the rigging--and the finishing of the water can now be seen here:
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37406
:wave_1: JIM B
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:00 am |
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Looking forward to the "final" update Jim Keep up Rui
Looking forward to the "final" update Jim Keep up :wave_1: Rui
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:21 am |
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Simply incredible--surfed your other models on your website and am amazed at your skill and dedication. Will take my hopelessly crude pond boat query down to the local hardware store and leave you all to you amazing craftsmanship! cheers, Reuben
Simply incredible--surfed your other models on your website and am amazed at your skill and dedication.
Will take my hopelessly crude pond boat query down to the local hardware store and leave you all to you amazing craftsmanship!
cheers, :smallsmile: Reuben
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:52 am |
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@ Silent one... to Modelwarships.com HMS Scylla is now essentially finished.just a few last tiny issued to clear up I shall flat-coat it at the weekend-and then the water surface gets further work to completion. Thereafter I shall document it here early next week. Thank for your interest JIM B
@ Silent one...
:welcome: :welcome: to Modelwarships.com
HMS Scylla is now essentially finished.just a few last tiny issued to clear up
I shall flat-coat it at the weekend-and then the water surface gets further work to completion. Thereafter I shall document it here early next week.
Thank for your interest
JIM B :smallsmile:
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:08 am |
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This is a verry useful thread. just a beginner so would very much like to see more about making sea bases. When will we get part two, Im eager to get into this. Verry grateful for this tutorial.
This is a verry useful thread. just a beginner so would very much like to see more about making sea bases. When will we get part two, Im eager to get into this. Verry grateful for this tutorial.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:34 am |
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Hi Jim, what a wonderful job. Your water design is very realistic. You're just a true champion. Many greetings Rainer
Hi Jim,
what a wonderful job. Your water design is very realistic. You're just a true champion.
Many greetings
Rainer :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:32 am |
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Thank you, Jim. I like both methods: yours and Rainer's. You achieve incredible realism. Yevgeniy
Thank you, Jim.
I like both methods: yours and Rainer's. You achieve incredible realism. :thumbs_up_1:
Yevgeniy
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:16 am |
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@ Yevgeniy There are a number of ways of simulating rougher water. I personally like using autobodyfiller- sets fast and sculpts quite well In my build article of HMS Mary Rose I detailed what I did with it! http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... eview.htmlModelwarship colleague Rainer Michalek is an exponent of the 'German' Silicone clear sealer method. He presented an article here at MW.com on how he does it! http://www.modelwarships.com/features/h ... index.htmlCheers Jim Baumann
@ Yevgeniy
There are a number of ways of simulating rougher water.
I personally like using autobodyfiller- sets fast and sculpts quite well
In my build article of HMS Mary Rose I detailed what I did with it! http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/hms/mary-rose/700-jb/jb-review.html
[img]http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/hms/mary-rose/700-jb/Img_1618.jpg[/img]
Modelwarship colleague Rainer Michalek is an exponent of the 'German' Silicone clear sealer method. He presented an article here at MW.com on how he does it!
http://www.modelwarships.com/features/how-to/water-rm/rm-index.html
Cheers
Jim Baumann
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:50 pm |
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Thank You very much Jim. :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo: I was looking for this technique,my Achilles ankle is water,I'm afraid to destroy my so so ships with a trully horrible water diorama ,hope to see more Jim :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:58 am |
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