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My choice would be woodworking sanding sealer. This essentially a fast-drying varnish that contains a certain amount of finely ground pumice to fill the pores. This also works on paper.

Ahoi gents

@ Katobase => well done , it looks pretty damn good -- more so next time ! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

@ drasticplastic... I had not actually given an alternative any thought as such; CA is not thaaaat expensive...

for a 1/700 water base I usually use around 2-3 grammes ( 3 x 1gram tubes ) of glue( spread it pretty quickly with cocktail or plastic spatulasticks)
-in the UK that is £ 3.00 for a car of 3 x 1 gramm tubes

I usually do the CA bit outside -- I also use a spray on accelerator these days ( Zap Kicker) for speedy results.
an alternative?-- PVA would work--use the speedy type of woodworking glue such a Evostick


it will stiffen--but won't be quite a rigid as CA

Hope it helps

JIM B :wave_1:

@ Jim Baumann (and readers at large); Not having access to wholesale amounts of CA (nor do I wish to as I would probably end up super-glueing everything, including myself, in one big mess! Also can't stand the fumes!) could you recommend anything else to stiffen the watercolor paper used for the surface?
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Hi Jim,
I just came across this guide and i gave it a try, and it turned out great! Other than the smell of CA... i can't believe it's something i made!! i been staying away from ocean base for years because it looked difficult and messy but this is such a simple yet effective method, thanks for sharing it!

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How do you build such great model ships? Your 1/700's are better than my best 1/350! It's not fair! :whistle:

Watercolour paper has a texture that replicates small wavelets in 1/700 very well

I also use it in 1/350-- it just needs to be remembered there is only half the amount of wind- :thumbs_up_1:

- in 1/350 it will only be blowing about 5 knots of wind

see example photos in 1/350 here

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/fr/LeBouvet/350-ysm-jb/index.html

( completed model images on page 5 )

The scene with my Bouvet below shows the shore party boats returning to the vessel in the evening -- with the land-breeze filling in -- the ship has just started her turn to lie to the wind,
riding over her buoy. ==> she will swing round to Port



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another example is here:

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/it/bb/350-roma-jb/jb-review.html

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To Jim Baumann - what are the particular properties of 'water color' paper that makes it preferable. Would it be just as effective in 1/350 scale? :wave_1:

That effect with the dryer lint is amazing! One of these days you should make a video on this waterscape process.

thank you both so much for explaining...Makes sense to me now.

That's a fantastic sea effect you have achieved - brilliant in fact.

It's a method I had not considered. My own is having a rigid base, as you say, that the model is screwed to from underneath. Before adding any detail to the hull I wrap it tightly in cling film and fix it to the base. For the sea effect I then apply finishing plaster that I mix up so that's fairly runny but not so that it goes all over the place. I apply this mix to the base and using various implements work the plaster as it dries to the sea state I want to depict.

Once the plaster has set the model can be released. I find the cling film stops the adhesion between model and plaster. Now I go ahead and paint the sea to the colours/tones I want. As you say keeping the paints thin so that they run together is the best way.

Hope you do not mind my adding these few words to your excellent method of representing the sea.
Mike

I use Humbrol Gloss-coat - from a glass jar -- applied quite thinly with a brush.

The varnish adheres to the hollows and raised pasrt equally well

ie it does not selflevel.

works well I find

other examples here
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/users/jim-baumann/jb-index.html

cheers :wave_1:

Jim Baumann

Jim,

what are you using to gloss the sea with. And I dont understand how the glossing doesnt fill in the texture of the watercolor paper where there is no more texture. I may have missed it in the explaination. Bottom line- awesome work, professional to the max....thanks

Brilliant work. Your seas look extremely convincing. Most that I have seen elsewhere look artificial and - particularly the bow waves - look like the cotton wool they are made of. Thank you for sharing your techniques, Jim.

Glad you enjoyed the method!


I use almost exclusively Humbrol enamels for seascapes.

I mix them roughly 50/50 with thinners to get them to flow into each other...

Cheers

Jim Baumann

Incidentally-- actually making the water using watercolour paper...

can be found here:

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37223

An absolutely stunning technique! Thank you for sharing. I have one Q...

Forgive me if you mentioned it in your post...What sort of paint are you using to paint wet on wet, oils, alkyds? With how thin it looks like you're painting I would think acrylics, unless it's slowed with a retarder, would dry too quickly for wet on wet.

Jim,
I too want to thank you. I have a folder of your work for reference and inspiration.

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Many thanks for sharing this technique.

I'm really excited with this "How to" Jim,you work is terrific,and truly eye inspiring,it look so easy,but gosh.... must be veryyyyyy hard.
Keep on shooting Jim.


Thank You very much :wave_1: :wave_1:

As promised- here are a few better detail photos of the bow wave- using the aforementioned tissue paper and fluff.

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Realistic as real life - I can not belive it is paper, looks like....water!

Very detailed guidance gives me chances I can use it one day.

Thank you for providing information on this great technique!

Yevgeniy