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Apologies for resurecting this thread but, having no acrylic gel to hand I've just tried a slight variation on Franks method and I have to say the results are the best water I've ever managed.
First, I crumpled tin foil into a ball and the flattened it out and stuck it to my base - this leaves plenty wrinkles in the foil to represent waves. Next, I cut out spaces for the ships, then painted as per Frank's method. I then added a coat of gloss acrylic varnish before adding the silicon again, as per Frank's method.
Still got to do the whitecaps and the wakes but it's a simple, effective method that also happens to be a LOT cheaper than acrylic gel.
John
Apologies for resurecting this thread but, having no acrylic gel to hand I've just tried a slight variation on Franks method and I have to say the results are the best water I've ever managed.
First, I crumpled tin foil into a ball and the flattened it out and stuck it to my base - this leaves plenty wrinkles in the foil to represent waves. Next, I cut out spaces for the ships, then painted as per Frank's method. I then added a coat of gloss acrylic varnish before adding the silicon again, as per Frank's method.
Still got to do the whitecaps and the wakes but it's a simple, effective method that also happens to be a LOT cheaper than acrylic gel.
John
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:02 pm |
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I have tried a number of different ways to model water, celluclay, sculpey clay, gel medium and I always dislike it and try adding something else or starting over. I was eventually satisfied with the results of my 1/350th Missouri's water base seen in the gallery under my name. I started with a board with a blue base then tried the celluclay which is a form of paper mache, painted the celluclay and wasn't satisfied, it then cracked after drying so I applied gel medium over the celluclay for depth and then dry brushed over the gel medium with a really watered down sea blue and white for white caps. Do whatever you think will look good and just give it your damnedess.
I have tried a number of different ways to model water, celluclay, sculpey clay, gel medium and I always dislike it and try adding something else or starting over. I was eventually satisfied with the results of my 1/350th Missouri's water base seen in the gallery under my name. I started with a board with a blue base then tried the celluclay which is a form of paper mache, painted the celluclay and wasn't satisfied, it then cracked after drying so I applied gel medium over the celluclay for depth and then dry brushed over the gel medium with a really watered down sea blue and white for white caps. Do whatever you think will look good and just give it your damnedess.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:45 am |
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coberg1 wrote: All very nice but I think Tony Bunch does the most realistic water.
This is not a contest for most realistic water.
[quote="coberg1"]All very nice but I think Tony Bunch does the most realistic water.[/quote]
This is not a contest for most realistic water.
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:16 am |
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All very nice but I think Tony Bunch does the most realistic water.
All very nice but I think Tony Bunch does the most realistic water.
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:59 pm |
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also only can recommend franks method! easy, cheap and good looking!!
http://photobucket.com/albums/a336/stu_fishing/?action=view¤t=P1010118.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/a336/stu_fishing/?action=view¤t=P1010116.jpg
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:05 pm |
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I used Frank Ilse´s method too and got very pleasing results. This is my first attempt ever at building water:
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
It is quite easy and quick to build. I keep thanking Frank for his article, which pushed me to do it.
I used Frank Ilse´s method too and got very pleasing results. This is my first attempt ever at building water:
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/dd/ru/besstrashnyy-350-fdn/fdn-index.html
It is quite easy and quick to build. I keep thanking Frank for his article, which pushed me to do it.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:02 pm |
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Looks great 350z
John
Looks great 350z
John
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:57 pm |
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The cheapest method is one introduced by Frank Isle. You paint board with acrylic paint and cover it with clear silicone from Home Depot. Here is my Slava on a such base.
Here is his article.
http://www.carrierbuilders.net/articles/20050526_Realistic_Water/20050526_Realistic_Water.htm
The cheapest method is one introduced by Frank Isle. You paint board with acrylic paint and cover it with clear silicone from Home Depot. Here is my Slava on a such base.
[img]http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/cg/ru/slava-700-az/slava-12.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/cg/ru/slava-700-az/slava-13.jpg[/img]
Here is his article.
[url]http://www.carrierbuilders.net/articles/20050526_Realistic_Water/20050526_Realistic_Water.htm[/url]
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:03 pm |
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It's phthalo blue (phthalocyanine) acrylic paint - needs a lot more painting to get the final effect.
If you do decide to go this route, I've found it's best to put down an initial coat of white as a basecoat.
HTH
John
It's phthalo blue (phthalocyanine) acrylic paint - needs a lot more painting to get the final effect.
If you do decide to go this route, I've found it's best to put down an initial coat of white as a basecoat.
HTH
John
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:32 am |
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That looks very good indeed. So what did you use for the coat of blue?
Rick
That looks very good indeed. So what did you use for the coat of blue?
Rick
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:29 am |
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Foil paper can certainly act as a good starting point, in fact, I'm using it on my latest diorama. Heres a pic of what it looks like with the first base coat of blue down:
An alternative to acrylic gel is clear silicon sealer that you use to seal around baths.
HTH
John
Foil paper can certainly act as a good starting point, in fact, I'm using it on my latest diorama. Heres a pic of what it looks like with the first base coat of blue down:
[img]http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/johndon/Fletcher12.JPG[/img]
An alternative to acrylic gel is clear silicon sealer that you use to seal around baths.
HTH
John
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:41 am |
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I live in a small town and I have yet to see an art store. Would foil paper spray painted in blue work well to replicate the ocean? I think I have a pretty good idea of what to use for the wakes. Perhaps a fine white powder would do the trick.
Anyway, if you have more feedback, it would be great. Thanks!
Rick
I live in a small town and I have yet to see an art store. Would foil paper spray painted in blue work well to replicate the ocean? I think I have a pretty good idea of what to use for the wakes. Perhaps a fine white powder would do the trick.
Anyway, if you have more feedback, it would be great. Thanks!
Rick
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:53 pm |
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For the sea base, there are numerous methods but a lot of people use acrylic gel which is easy to use can be shaped before it sets - you should be able to get it at your local artists supplier.
HTH
John
For the sea base, there are numerous methods but a lot of people use acrylic gel which is easy to use can be shaped before it sets - you should be able to get it at your local artists supplier.
HTH
John
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:52 am |
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Hey guys,
I have a diecast model of the battleship Yamato and will be getting the light cruiser Yahagi and 3 destroyers and I was just wondering how you would go about making a diorama.
What's the best material to use. I'm assuming I can use a plank of wood but what would be best used to replicate the ocean and the wakes of the ships?
Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
Rick
Hey guys,
I have a diecast model of the battleship Yamato and will be getting the light cruiser Yahagi and 3 destroyers and I was just wondering how you would go about making a diorama.
What's the best material to use. I'm assuming I can use a plank of wood but what would be best used to replicate the ocean and the wakes of the ships?
Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
Rick
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:25 am |
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