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Topic review - Calling all IJN Taiho (大鳳) fans
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Ditto that. :-)
Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:40 pm
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I just put in a pre-order for the Very Fire 1/350 Taiho DX kit from HLJ. With all the resin and etch included, $227 seems like too good of a deal to pass up. I just hope the exchange rate doesn't spike when they become available.
Post Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:55 pm
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There's just no way to know how extensive the black paintover would be. You guess will be as good as anyone's. I doubt that the flight deck markings would be painted over. Just seems unlikely. Those were already minimized, and the air crews inexperienced.
Post Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:25 pm
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Dan K wrote:
...the deck was subsequently painted black at Tawi Tawi


I know there's probably no definitive answer to this, but would that be just the planked section painted black? Or the entire flight deck including elevators, edges/gutters, and the steel areas at bow and stern painted uniform black? And presumably the flight deck markings would be preserved and/or reapplied?
Post Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:50 pm
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Well, some folks will not be satisfied until Taiho is found and dived on for conclusive evidence of her flight deck, but, as I posted on p1 of this thread, a photograph surfaced some years ago which has been verified as taken on board Taiho, showing a planked flight deck: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=22885#p377409

The postwar USN Technical Mission to Japan conducted extensive interviews and analysis, drawing up a set of plans for Taiho. Her bridge shows a sloped deck, possibly internal, abutting the funnel uptake. This is the reference upon Fujimi based its version. It remains a subject of debate.


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:14 pm
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Tamiya kits, even old ones, are sharply moulded and do stand up well even today, hence I asked to see if this is one of the better ones that fit that description :big_grin:

You say the older deck is not planked, is it conclusive now that this was the case for Taiho? I'm also curious about this sloping island deck.
Post Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:46 pm
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They are far from identical, but I do think the Tamiya kit has held up reasonably well. In many ways, the kit is more sharply molded than the Fujimi version. I don't have measurements readily available, but there are subtle differences in length and width. Obviously, the older deck is not planked, and the island follows the traditional stacked deck configuration, with no (possibly internal) sloping deck.

The biggest omission that comes to mind is the lack of the aft, starboard boat storage tunnel that lay between the upper hangar deck and the outer hull. Not a deal breaker.
Post Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:22 pm
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For a 1/700 Taiho, I know Tamiya's old kit won't hold a candle to Fujimi's current offering in terms of detail, but is the Tamiya kit fundamentally sound in overall shape/size accuracy?
Post Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:58 am
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I saw this posted over on SteelNavy. 1st in the box look at the VeryFire 1-350 Taiho kit. Not sure if the presenter is from VeryFire, or just closely linked to them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMsfMFlAchs
Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 10:36 am
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Thank you, Timmy. I had missed them. This looks like probably the best rendition of a Japanese aircraft carrier in 1/350. As Dan noted, they hit all the high points. It will most likely be quite expensive, but from what they've shown, well worth the price.
Post Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:43 pm
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Thank you, Timmy!!!! Outstanding. Makes my day.

Assuming the 3D rendering represents what's coming:

Wood planked deck - :thumbs_up_1:
Staggered planking pattern - :thumbs_up_1:
Aircraft tie-downs - :thumbs_up_1:
Flight Deck Rain gutters - :thumbs_up_1:
External degaussing cable- conservative choice but nicely rendered
Open air intake grills at the base of the island, starboard - :thumbs_up_1:
Island configuration, portside - not entirely clear, a compromise between the traditional and the revised version seen on the Fujimi kit. That could be ok.
Waterline hull option cut on the inside of the hull - :thumbs_up_1:
Detailed elevator wells - :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Detailed bridge position - :thumbs_up_1:
Trolley tracks for boats at stern, starboard - unknown
Plenty of PE
Detailed aircraft cockpits - :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:23 am
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Back in September 2020, Very Fire had posted these lovely CAD drawings of their Taiho, in case anyone (like me) missed them: http://www.moxing.net/2020/0919/10612.html

For the deck planking peepers, you can right click -> open in new tab to see them at their full resolution.
Post Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:43 pm
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Dan K wrote:
Here's a photo of a 1/700 version built from the Tamiya kit from a few years back. I believe it was a Japanese modeler:

Here are drawings of Kai-Taiho by the same artist, also courtesy of Shipbucket.
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Post Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:45 am
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Dan K wrote:
No, only that it remains in the Veryfire pipeline. They gave it a mention a few days ago as a possible next release.


God I hope that they do!
Post Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 5:49 pm
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No, only that it remains in the Veryfire pipeline. They gave it a mention a few days ago as a possible next release.
Post Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 8:24 pm
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Does anyone have info on when a 1/350 Taiho will be released?
Post Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:38 am
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MartinJQuinn wrote:
Mike C wrote:
Thanks, Dan. I'll have to keep an eye peeled for a vol. 1 that isn't in the nose-bleed price range.

I have at least one volume that I am willing to part with, at a reasonable price. Let me look on the bookshelf tonight and see what one it is.

Thanks Martin, but I found both volumes shortly after I made the original post.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:58 pm
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nice model,thanks!
Post Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:13 am
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Will the 4 meter difference be seen in 1/700?


In 1/700, that's 5.7mm or .225 inches. Basically, a quarter-inch.

Is it significant? Again, that depends on you and how accurate/detailed you wish to be. I think it would require cutting the hull and inserting a 1/4" plug. As long as the seams aren't visible, and with the sponsons covering the some of the seams, it's certainly workable.

I think it approaches noticeable to a very knowledgeable IJN CV aficionado who builds in the smaller scales. Probably nobody else, frankly.

Here's a photo of a 1/700 version built from the Tamiya kit from a few years back. I believe it was a Japanese modeler:


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Post Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:28 pm
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Mike C wrote:
Thanks, Dan. I'll have to keep an eye peeled for a vol. 1 that isn't in the nose-bleed price range.

I have at least one volume that I am willing to part with, at a reasonable price. Let me look on the bookshelf tonight and see what one it is.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:49 pm

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