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chuck wrote: What is the huge cylindrical object above island and immediately below the Fregat/top plate radar? It looks like it is either a huge dielectric radome covering a very large rotating antenna inside, or some kind of circular phased array. There's an interesting discussion here: https://www.key.aero/comment/1483129Quote: Rezistor-K4 TACAN(Tactical Communications and Navigation) system for the ship's aircraft Also in this image posted on http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-PLAN-CV. ... ocId219042
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[quote="chuck"]What is the huge cylindrical object above island and immediately below the Fregat/top plate radar? It looks like it is either a huge dielectric radome covering a very large rotating antenna inside, or some kind of circular phased array.[/quote] There's an interesting discussion here: https://www.key.aero/comment/1483129
[quote]Rezistor-K4 TACAN(Tactical Communications and Navigation) system for the ship's aircraft[/quote]
Also in this image posted on http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-PLAN-CV.html#mozTocId219042
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:39 pm |
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What is the huge cylindrical object above island and immediately below the Fregat/top plate radar? It looks like it is either a huge dielectric radome covering a very large rotating antenna inside, or some kind of circular phased array.
What is the huge cylindrical object above island and immediately below the Fregat/top plate radar? It looks like it is either a huge dielectric radome covering a very large rotating antenna inside, or some kind of circular phased array.
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:51 am |
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An interesting little two part documentary on the Russian MoD Youtube channel about the Kuznetsov's 2016 voyage to the Mediterranean prior to her seeing combat for the first time in Syria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8flm6IWGcCghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peyrsUgJhkoIt's in Russian but if you go into settings on Youtube you can get auto-translated subtitles. Subject to all the usual caveats of auto-translate. It has some nice onboard views and closeups of the aircraft. Should anyone want to model her as she appeared then.
An interesting little two part documentary on the Russian MoD Youtube channel about the Kuznetsov's 2016 voyage to the Mediterranean prior to her seeing combat for the first time in Syria:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8flm6IWGcCg[/url]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peyrsUgJhko[/url]
It's in Russian but if you go into settings on Youtube you can get auto-translated subtitles. Subject to all the usual caveats of auto-translate. It has some nice onboard views and closeups of the aircraft. Should anyone want to model her as she appeared then.
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:52 am |
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Some old footage of Admiral Kuznetsov in the Black Sea launching and recovering MiG-29Ks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3AMB7ZFF3QHull pennant number 111 visible too.
Some old footage of Admiral Kuznetsov in the Black Sea launching and recovering MiG-29Ks:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3AMB7ZFF3Q[/url]
Hull pennant number 111 visible too.
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:10 am |
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OK for the people that have asked what is happening to the model of my Admiral Kuznetsov 1/72. Here is an update. Over the last few days I have been laying up deck panels of Fiberglass sheets 1 meter square. When they are cleaned and squared away I will post the next update. Sorry no pictures but it's hard enough laying up 5 sheets and 1 foam core making the deck quite thick. There is a bit of warping but it should be manageable. Once its screwed in place it (Fingers crossed) should be fine.
OK for the people that have asked what is happening to the model of my Admiral Kuznetsov 1/72. Here is an update. Over the last few days I have been laying up deck panels of Fiberglass sheets 1 meter square. When they are cleaned and squared away I will post the next update. Sorry no pictures but it's hard enough laying up 5 sheets and 1 foam core making the deck quite thick. There is a bit of warping but it should be manageable. Once its screwed in place it ([color=#BF0000]Fingers crossed[/color]) should be fine.
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:29 pm |
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I just saw this: https://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/shop/pri ... 62857.htmlI don't have a Kusnetsov myself (too big as I have loads of 1/350 carriers already) but it might be useful to someone? Disclaimer: I am not connected with either company in any way!
I just saw this:
https://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/shop/print-scale-1350%C2%A0russian-aircraft-carrier-admiral-kuznetsov-p-62857.html
I don't have a Kusnetsov myself (too big as I have loads of 1/350 carriers already) but it might be useful to someone?
Disclaimer: I am not connected with either company in any way!
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:36 am |
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ozpirate wrote: Mick, question for you. Third picture down forward of the island what are those trucks chained down? Surely those aren't tow trucks for the aircraft? Maybe repair vehicles? OK Guest, I'll try to answer your question. At first when I was collecting images I didn't pay to much attention to that part of the ship. I was more interested I any details of the ship itself. I thought great image withe some trucks that serve on board this ship. When I went back to look at these images yeah great detail of the ship itself. Please understand I'm building a model of the ship. For me the aircraft and other items like trucks and push bikes are for me decoration. Yes they are part of the ship but in the end it was ship first of all. When looking at this image at first I thought it was a fuel truck but I quickly dismissed that. To me its a truck that takes men from one part of the deck to another with maybe a generator for the aircraft. (A guess) If anyone else has a better answer go for it.
[quote="ozpirate"] [img]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_mkAI8RG4ASk/SjiYqUvi4FI/AAAAAAAAC7k/59mWfpvBYNI/s800/81056120.jpg[/img] Mick, question for you. Third picture down forward of the island what are those trucks chained down? Surely those aren't tow trucks for the aircraft? Maybe repair vehicles?[/quote]
OK Guest, I'll try to answer your question. At first when I was collecting images I didn't pay to much attention to that part of the ship. I was more interested I any details of the ship itself. I thought great image withe some trucks that serve on board this ship. When I went back to look at these images yeah great detail of the ship itself. Please understand I'm building a model of the ship. For me the aircraft and other items like trucks and push bikes are for me decoration. Yes they are part of the ship but in the end it was ship first of all. When looking at this image at first I thought it was a fuel truck but I quickly dismissed that. To me its a truck that takes men from one part of the deck to another with maybe a generator for the aircraft. (A guess)
If anyone else has a better answer go for it.
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:50 am |
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ozpirate wrote: Mick, question for you. Third picture down forward of the island what are those trucks chained down? Surely those aren't tow trucks for the aircraft? Maybe repair vehicles?
[quote="ozpirate"]Been a while since anyone posted here so here goes some new image found online. This should drive some of us modellers nuts with the detail that now has to be changes as per your model. Have fun :heh: I know I am. Thank god I haven't reached that far YET!!! [img]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_mkAI8RG4ASk/SjiYqHECnhI/AAAAAAAAC7c/ESoWlRne5Is/s800/34876.jpg[/img] [img]http://lh6.ggpht.com/_mkAI8RG4ASk/SjiYqVbQbUI/AAAAAAAAC7g/W17tKtXaBlM/s800/81056116.jpg[/img] [img]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_mkAI8RG4ASk/SjiYqUvi4FI/AAAAAAAAC7k/59mWfpvBYNI/s800/81056120.jpg[/img] [img]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_mkAI8RG4ASk/SjiYqZq2VkI/AAAAAAAAC7o/G5LVK9Yi7Q0/s800/81056127.jpg[/img] [img]http://lh5.ggpht.com/_mkAI8RG4ASk/SjiYqog2DTI/AAAAAAAAC7s/QSmm7a4iDZo/s800/610x.jpg[/img][/quote]
Mick, question for you. Third picture down forward of the island what are those trucks chained down? Surely those aren't tow trucks for the aircraft? Maybe repair vehicles?
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:35 pm |
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The issues raised in this 3-page 2012 article appear to be tied to a morale issue in the Russian Navy; the ship-specific issues may also provide insight into what the Chinese face with the the Kuznetsov's sister carrier Liaoning. There are also great close up pics of the Kuznetsov at the link below: link: EnglishRussia.com
The issues raised in this 3-page 2012 article appear to be tied to a morale issue in the Russian Navy; the ship-specific issues may also provide insight into what the Chinese face with the the [i]Kuznetsov[/i]'s sister carrier [i]Liaoning[/i].
There are also great close up pics of the [i]Kuznetsov[/i] at the link below:
link: [url=http://englishrussia.com/2012/03/30/ill-fame-of-the-aircraft-cruiser-admiral-kuznetsov/]EnglishRussia.com[/url]
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:32 am |
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Mick you should stop "wasting" your time on the Stereguchiy and spend more time on this behemoth! Any progress on any of your projects lately?
Mick you should stop "wasting" your time on the Stereguchiy and spend more time on this behemoth! Any progress on any of your projects lately?
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 4:08 am |
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Latest picture of my 1/72 Admiral Kuznetsov.
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Latest picture of my 1/72 Admiral Kuznetsov.
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:36 pm |
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For those wondering about the real carrier Kuznetsov's size compared to any British Daring class destroyer, here's a picture of the carrier being escorted by HMS Dragon, as reported today: photo courtesy of Canada's National Post
For those wondering about the real carrier [i]Kuznetsov[/i]'s size compared to any British [i]Daring[/i] class destroyer, here's a picture of the carrier being escorted by HMS Dragon, as [url=http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/05/08/u-k-royal-navy-escorts-russian-military-ships-in-routine-operation-in-english-channel/]reported today[/url]:
[img]http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z181/MSantor/HMSDragonandRussiancarrier.jpg[/img]
photo courtesy of Canada's [i]National Post[/i]
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:05 pm |
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Does anyone have an opinion on what the best photo-etch to use on the trumpeter 1/700 Admiral Kuznetsov kit ? Thanks!
Does anyone have an opinion on what the best photo-etch to use on the trumpeter 1/700 Admiral Kuznetsov kit ? Thanks!
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:22 pm |
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Seasick wrote: The NATO call sign is Su-33. Sukhoi has declined further development of the Su-33 (aka Su-27K). The Russian Navy and Indian Navy have developed a new MIG-29K. Its not much like the original version that was dropped by the Soviet Navy in the late 1980s. The Admiral Kuznetsov is now or will soon enter a mid life refit. The refit will amongst other things will introduce two waiste catipilts, fit the ship for the operation of the new MIG-29K version, delete the P-700 Granit (NATO: SS-N-19 "SHIPWRECK") launchers to make additional space for the expansion of the hanger. The Su-33 will probably be phased out as soon as the MIG-29K is fully operational. Any pics yet as to how she'll look after her refit?
[quote="Seasick"]The NATO call sign is Su-33. Sukhoi has declined further development of the Su-33 (aka Su-27K). The Russian Navy and Indian Navy have developed a new MIG-29K. Its not much like the original version that was dropped by the Soviet Navy in the late 1980s. The Admiral Kuznetsov is now or will soon enter a mid life refit. The refit will amongst other things will introduce two waiste catipilts, fit the ship for the operation of the new MIG-29K version, delete the P-700 Granit (NATO: SS-N-19 "SHIPWRECK") launchers to make additional space for the expansion of the hanger. The Su-33 will probably be phased out as soon as the MIG-29K is fully operational.[/quote]
Any pics yet as to how she'll look after her refit?
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:05 pm |
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On the subject of Liao Ning, I noted that GHQ have now added her as the latest addition to their range of 1:2400 'micro' ships. If anyone likes such tiny models (noramlly used for wargaming), the ones I've seen from GHQ are very fine little models, particularly their later releases, so this one should be very nice when complete. Comes with 10 Sukhoi jets and 5 helos for placement on the deck, and decals.
On the subject of Liao Ning, I noted that GHQ have now added her as the latest addition to their range of 1:2400 'micro' ships.
If anyone likes such tiny models (noramlly used for wargaming), the ones I've seen from GHQ are very fine little models, particularly their later releases, so this one should be very nice when complete. Comes with 10 Sukhoi jets and 5 helos for placement on the deck, and decals.
[img]http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/media/m-images/HRC1a2.jpg[/img]
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:59 pm |
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Peter H wrote: Hi Mick
Thanks for your reply to my question of the hull colour on the 1/350 PLAN carrier "Ex-Varyag", I ended up painting it the colour on the box which you have pointed out is not correct, some further research I have done confirms that your plan IS the correct one. Have nearly completed the full hull with Gold Medal etch set so re-painting would not be much fun now. Thanks anyway for the response. I will see if I can make it to the show. Much appreciated.
Peter Hoskins Sydney, AU. Peter H wrote: Hi Mick
Thanks for your reply to my question of the hull colour on the 1/350 PLAN carrier "Ex-Varyag", I ended up painting it the colour on the box which you have pointed out is not correct, some further research I have done confirms that your plan IS the correct one. Have nearly completed the full hull with Gold Medal etch set so re-painting would not be much fun now. Thanks anyway for the response. I will see if I can make it to the show. Much appreciated.
Peter Hoskins Sydney, AU. Peter, the PLAN Carrier, CV-16, Liaoning, does not have a black waterline stripe. It goes directly from the light gray to the hull red. Here is a very recent picture: As you can see from that pic, the PLAN has added the "16" pennant number to either side of the bow and to the bow on the ski-jump. In addition they have re-arranged the antennae from the instructions that came in the model. Thee four large antennae foerward of the bridge have been taken down and moved to the port side of the flight deck side. The four antennae on each side of the bow have been reduced to two each and those other two have also been moved to the port side. The added the pennant number "16" to the vessel on either side of the bow and forward on the ski jumb just aft of the bow. I have been keeping close track of the Liaoning progress since its launch and am constantly updating my 1/350 scale model to match their latest configuration. Another change is that the whie outline marker for the landing area has been extended completely forward to the end of the angled deck like US markings...abandoning the Kuznetsov-like landing outline from before. Anyhow, hrere's a link to a site I maintain on the Liaoning: http://www.jeffhead.com/worldwideaircra ... varyag.htmThat site alos includes all active aircraft carriers of the world, as well as all active large, flat-deck amphibious vessels. In addition, I have a site where I document and catalog my own 1/350 scale builds here: http://www.jeffhead.com/modelbuilds/I am working on a long term porject to build complete carrier strike groups for all of the world major navies. Currently I have the vessels for the US (centered on the YTamiya USS Enterprise), the PLAN (centered on the Liaoning), the UK (centered on the HMS Illustrious), the French (centered on the Charels de Gualle), the Russians (entered on the Kuznetsov) and the Japanese (centered on the Hyuga). When Australia comes out with the Canberra and Hobart models, I will build a Aussie group as well. Same with the Inidans and the VIkramaditya or Vikrant when those 1/350 scale models become available. I am considering doing a Brazilian based on their Sao Puala which I could build easily from the old Heller och model in 1/400 scale. Anyhow, hope this helps. Cheers!
[quote="Peter H"]Hi Mick
Thanks for your reply to my question of the hull colour on the 1/350 PLAN carrier "Ex-Varyag", I ended up painting it the colour on the box which you have pointed out is not correct, some further research I have done confirms that your plan IS the correct one. Have nearly completed the full hull with Gold Medal etch set so re-painting would not be much fun now. Thanks anyway for the response. I will see if I can make it to the show. Much appreciated.
Peter Hoskins Sydney, AU.[/quote] [quote="Peter H"]Hi Mick
Thanks for your reply to my question of the hull colour on the 1/350 PLAN carrier "Ex-Varyag", I ended up painting it the colour on the box which you have pointed out is not correct, some further research I have done confirms that your plan IS the correct one. Have nearly completed the full hull with Gold Medal etch set so re-painting would not be much fun now. Thanks anyway for the response. I will see if I can make it to the show. Much appreciated.
Peter Hoskins Sydney, AU.[/quote]
Peter, the PLAN Carrier, CV-16, Liaoning, does not have a black waterline stripe. It goes directly from the light gray to the hull red. Here is a very recent picture:
[img]http://www.jeffhead.com/worldwideaircraftcarriers/varyag02.jpg[/img]
As you can see from that pic, the PLAN has added the "16" pennant number to either side of the bow and to the bow on the ski-jump. In addition they have re-arranged the antennae from the instructions that came in the model. Thee four large antennae foerward of the bridge have been taken down and moved to the port side of the flight deck side. The four antennae on each side of the bow have been reduced to two each and those other two have also been moved to the port side.
The added the pennant number "16" to the vessel on either side of the bow and forward on the ski jumb just aft of the bow. I have been keeping close track of the Liaoning progress since its launch and am constantly updating my 1/350 scale model to match their latest configuration.
Another change is that the whie outline marker for the landing area has been extended completely forward to the end of the angled deck like US markings...abandoning the Kuznetsov-like landing outline from before.
Anyhow, hrere's a link to a site I maintain on the Liaoning: http://www.jeffhead.com/worldwideaircraftcarriers/varyag.htm
That site alos includes all active aircraft carriers of the world, as well as all active large, flat-deck amphibious vessels.
In addition, I have a site where I document and catalog my own 1/350 scale builds here: http://www.jeffhead.com/modelbuilds/
I am working on a long term porject to build complete carrier strike groups for all of the world major navies. Currently I have the vessels for the US (centered on the YTamiya USS Enterprise), the PLAN (centered on the Liaoning), the UK (centered on the HMS Illustrious), the French (centered on the Charels de Gualle), the Russians (entered on the Kuznetsov) and the Japanese (centered on the Hyuga). When Australia comes out with the Canberra and Hobart models, I will build a Aussie group as well. Same with the Inidans and the VIkramaditya or Vikrant when those 1/350 scale models become available. I am considering doing a Brazilian based on their Sao Puala which I could build easily from the old Heller och model in 1/400 scale.
Anyhow, hope this helps.
Cheers!
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Hi Guys,
I plan to get Trumpeter 1/350 PLAN Carrier, since it is a lot cheaper than Kuznetsov.
However, I plan to convert it to Kuznetsov, since I think it is more colorful. Is it possible?
what are the differences between these 2 ship?
is there after market Kuznetsov decal that I can use? Please advise.
Hi Guys,
I plan to get Trumpeter 1/350 PLAN Carrier, since it is a lot cheaper than Kuznetsov.
However, I plan to convert it to Kuznetsov, since I think it is more colorful. Is it possible?
what are the differences between these 2 ship?
is there after market Kuznetsov decal that I can use? Please advise.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:57 am |
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The NATO call sign is Su-33. Sukhoi has declined further development of the Su-33 (aka Su-27K). The Russian Navy and Indian Navy have developed a new MIG-29K. Its not much like the original version that was dropped by the Soviet Navy in the late 1980s. The Admiral Kuznetsov is now or will soon enter a mid life refit. The refit will amongst other things will introduce two waiste catipilts, fit the ship for the operation of the new MIG-29K version, delete the P-700 Granit (NATO: SS-N-19 "SHIPWRECK") launchers to make additional space for the expansion of the hanger. The Su-33 will probably be phased out as soon as the MIG-29K is fully operational.
The NATO call sign is Su-33. Sukhoi has declined further development of the Su-33 (aka Su-27K). The Russian Navy and Indian Navy have developed a new MIG-29K. Its not much like the original version that was dropped by the Soviet Navy in the late 1980s. The Admiral Kuznetsov is now or will soon enter a mid life refit. The refit will amongst other things will introduce two waiste catipilts, fit the ship for the operation of the new MIG-29K version, delete the P-700 Granit (NATO: SS-N-19 "SHIPWRECK") launchers to make additional space for the expansion of the hanger. The Su-33 will probably be phased out as soon as the MIG-29K is fully operational.
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:11 am |
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Hi guys
Have finally finished the Trumpeter 1/350 PLAN (Ex Varyag) carrier. working on the Airwing I have noticed:
The Chinese J-15 Fighter is labeled on the Trumpeter Sprue as "SU-27K" (But larger Exhaust Ports are supplied seperatly) The Chinese / Russian Ka-28 is labeled Ka-27 (not that it matters much I guess)
I have a spare box of Trumpeter SU-33UB Flankers that I may use, does anyone know which (SU-27 or SU-33) are the more "correct" to ues?
Thanks in advance.
Peter H Sydney, AU
Hi guys
Have finally finished the Trumpeter 1/350 PLAN (Ex Varyag) carrier. working on the Airwing I have noticed:
The Chinese J-15 Fighter is labeled on the Trumpeter Sprue as "SU-27K" (But larger Exhaust Ports are supplied seperatly) The Chinese / Russian Ka-28 is labeled Ka-27 (not that it matters much I guess)
I have a spare box of Trumpeter SU-33UB Flankers that I may use, does anyone know which (SU-27 or SU-33) are the more "correct" to ues?
Thanks in advance.
Peter H Sydney, AU
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:37 am |
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Wow Mick, that is one big boat your after. I just purchased the Trumpeter 1/350 and I'm not sure if that was a right decision cause I don't know where I will put it. I'm working on the Tamiya Big E and that's going to be a pain to keep once finish. I'll be following this thread for sure so I can see as much as I can about this boat.
Mike
Wow Mick, that is one big boat your after. I just purchased the Trumpeter 1/350 and I'm not sure if that was a right decision cause I don't know where I will put it. I'm working on the Tamiya Big E and that's going to be a pain to keep once finish. I'll be following this thread for sure so I can see as much as I can about this boat.
Mike
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:48 am |
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