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Topic review - Calling all IJN Shoho class fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Shoho class fans  Reply with quote
Yes to one cable wrapped entirely around the ship. Technically, that's actually not true. It's a bunch of cables tucked together, often bundled within a metal box sheath. Attached to the hull using brackets, as per the illustration below.

Every ship or class differs in exactly how it was positioned on the hull. Generally, it was high on the hull, trying to follow the contours of the main deck. Depending on how tall a sponson or support was, the cable would either wrap under it, or warp over it. IN Shoho (and presumably Zuiho)'s case, it looks like they went over.


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:24 pm
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Ah. Now it all makes sense! Thanks! I wish they'd included a turned brass version of the boom, but the PE part may give the right effect.

Earlier in the thread you posted a photo of Shoho showing the degaussing cable. Thanks for that. Is there just one per ship? Or is there a cable on each side? On the photo it looks like it is level on the sides of the ship all the way, but that it must wrap around the protrusion for the AA mountings. Any ideas if it just stays level going around those, or does it drop down below the protrusions? I don't know how these were held in place really....
Post Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:17 pm
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That's the boat boom and the access platform. There's one on each side. When stowed, it rested upon some posts projecting from the hull. When in use, it extended perpendicular to the hull at 90*.


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:58 am
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There is a structure on the right side of the hull below the funnel. There are stairs leading down to a platform, then something behind the platform - I don't know what that is. I'm not sure whether knowing would help me know how to fold it, but I thought I'd ask. The parts are MA39 and MA47. MA 39 is the platform and its railing, but there is a part extending behind that MA47 gets combined with somehow. Here is the instruction sheet courtesy Hobby Search Japan. The two photographs showing it are side-by-side middle right.

(Well, looks like I don't know how to link in the image, here is the url:)

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10546949/70/2
Post Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:33 pm
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I reviewed the online images of the instructions to no avail. I suspect there is conflicting information about the size of the markings, and both options were included.

Zuiho in Dec 1942 appears to have the wider version, but this is half a year later.


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Post Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:56 pm
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There are two PE choices, a shallow one and a deep one. The three decals are one for each of those choices, and one for if you stick with the plastic version. I can't find any indication of how to make the choice between the two different depths of the PE.
Post Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:25 pm
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Apparently, the leading edge/portion of that array has a solid surface, and one set of strips goes on top.


I'm guessing that one width applies to the PE version; the other to the kit plastic version. (image courtesy of Hobbysearch Japan).


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Post Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:40 pm
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Thanks guys.

Dan, it's the Hasegawa hyper detail set. Looking at the kit there are actually three decals of different sizes with the red and white strips. I didn't go figure out whether there are three PE sizes yet, the instructions say there are two.
Post Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:30 am
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Those ladders are known as accommodation ladders, and were made primarily of wood in the IJN. They were collapsible, in that the stanchions and chain rails folded down and inward. In the Shohos, there were two sets forward and aft. The forward set was stored on the walkways above, the aft set stored on the stern boat deck.

Those landing light arrays or outriggers carried landing lights on the trailing edge to help guide pilots into the landing path. Which PE set?


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Post Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:23 am
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The "Sea Stairs" can be either a rope and wood affair that can be rolled up and stored on deck or in a nearby locker or it will be metal and/or wood and steel device that is hinged at the upper (deck) end. The steel version may be raised to deck level and secured if transiting short distances in calm seas, otherwise it will be raised aboard and stored somewhere out of the way, usually on the main deck area.

Paul O'Reilly (retired nasal radiator!)
Post Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:43 pm
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I was a little discouraged by the flight deck situation, but I'm back at it. I'll figure something out for the flight deck.

Going through all the PE I now have and figuring it out. I have two questions:

1) "sea stairs" - I'm not sure what the right term is for these, but they are the stairs that comes down the side of the ship with a small ramp at sea level for someone boarding via a boat. Anyway, what happens to them when the ship is underway? Are they completely taken in, or just raised up to the level of the deck where the top of the stairs are, or what?

2) "flight deck wings" - again, not sure what the right term is for these, but they are the wing like things sticking out to each side at the back of the flight deck. I have two options on finishing them - there are two solid pieces of PE that sit on top of the assembly, one deeper than the other, and it says optional. I have no idea what the difference between the two are. I'd like any guidance about those.
Post Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:00 pm
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Available kits and gallery entries now posted on page 1.
Post Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:43 pm
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Flyhawk typically designs for the specific kit, so, it's unlikely to fit. But, you never know.
Post Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:33 am
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Does anybody know if Flyhawk replacement deck for Shoho works only with Hasegawa kit (as designed) or is good also for the newer and better Fujimi kit?
Post Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:06 pm
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I haven't seen it yet, so I can't comment. Hopefully, someone else can. (Moderator, please combine with regular Shoho CASF. Thx.)
Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:29 pm
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Anyone know any details as yet about the new Fujimi 1/700 Shoho kit?

(Actually, has anyone got anything to say about the slightly less new Zuiho kit also?)


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:13 pm
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Thx for the heads-up. I'm curious as to what they think will improve on the Hasegawa kit. Probably not the flight deck planking..............., not that the raised lines of the Hasegawa flight deck are such a joy.
Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:43 pm
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Fujimi to release a new mold of the Zuiho, slated for December, 2014. Hasegawa's current mold of this carrier dates to 1999 or so. Fujimi release will be circa 1944.
Post Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:01 am
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As a quick bump to the thread, I've started to get a skeleton of a 1/350 Shoho cut out and assembled.. About to order a 1/700 version as a study guide (perhaps Zuiho too, very cool paint job and more fun I agree). It *kind of* looks like the unassembled 1/350 Chikuma pieces still unbuilt in the box.

Recently discovered a great 1/700 build of Soryu where exactly the same Tone-hull-swapping we have been discussing has occurred:

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... /index.htm

As Tone is 620ft, Shoho 674 or so, and Soryu 745 there may be some cutting required on a 1/700 conversion. It's a point of contention that full hull versions of Kaga, Soryu, Shoho and Ryujo have yet to be released in 1/700 or 1/350 scale. Perhaps they are too obscure subjects?
Post Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:17 am
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Plus if your gonna do one a Zuiho in 1944 would be allot more fun I would think. Just my 2 cents.
Post Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:10 pm

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