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Topic review - Calling all Escort Carriers (CVE) fans
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Anyone have some info re: above? Cvt bogue larger than 1:700?
Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:46 pm
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Hi Lester,
yes, I saw that forum link as well. The kit looks quite nice, hope they will start to sell it soon. I have been so anxious when Hasegawa released their USS Gambier Bay in 1/350, hoping they would scale it down to 1/700... but it never hapenned. Let us hope this one will work out :)

Google translations from Japanese are always great fun. Can you imagine the outcome when you do the translation e.g. from Japanese to a minor language (like Czech)? It does it in fact twice in the background - from Japanese to English and then from English to Czech. The result is just fancy :-D
Post Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:35 am
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I had twigged to that, Lester; the translation just struck me funny. Right church, wrong pew.


Could've been the Wasp CV7
Post Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:15 pm
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Lester Abbey wrote:
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"Bumblebee" :big_grin: :big_grin: :big_grin:


It's the Hornet CV8

I had twigged to that, Lester; the translation just struck me funny. Right church, wrong pew.
Post Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:05 pm
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Quote:
"Bumblebee" :big_grin: :big_grin: :big_grin:


It's the Hornet CV8
Post Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:45 pm
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"Bumblebee" :big_grin: :big_grin: :big_grin:
Post Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:30 pm
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Hi Vlad -

I'm chasing that one as well, I've had a Chinese friend of mine do some investigation and I'm hoping to use another Chinese friend (and ship modeler) to get one for me as he is in China right now)

Here's what I've got:

to zaozaoyan
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3478348086?pn=1

I think that it is a plastic model of the Gambier Bay CVE73 – a famous ship sunk by the Japanese in 1944. Can you tell me anything about what this website says about it?

Lester Lolai

What I recieved:


1. 12-20 战舰】六分仪卡萨布兰卡级甘比湾号(CVE73)

Means: (12-20 warship) Sextants Casablanca rank Gambier Bay (CVE73);

2. 板件一览(还有一板通用件和舰载机没照进去)

Shows of parts (but didn't take photo for an universal part and carrier aircraft )

3. 和其他船的大小对比(埃塞克斯,光辉,大黄蜂,巴尔的摩,甘比湾)

Compare with the size of other's ship (Essex, Glory, Bumblebee,Baltimore, Gambier Bay)
Post Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:56 pm
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Hello,
does anyone have any more details about the availability of the new S-model 1/700 Casablanca-class CVE mentioned at https://www.facebook.com/groups/659559407492511/permalink/692830367498748?
Post Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:05 am
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Rich in Name Only wrote:
To ESzczesniak, photos.
Haven't been on this site in a while.
Coincidentally last Friday (1/16) I was looking for the same Casablanca class fore/aft flight deck support photos.
I went through Navsource, each ship, every picture (I'm retired, I can do that!).

I found enough good photos of the forward supports to go ahead with the drill bits. Make note that "good enough" was for illustration---some of the photos aren't really so good.
Be sure to look at all of them!
There are holes not included in the kit and the kit has the wrong size for the big uns!
Also note the holes in the fore/aft members.
Some show holes in the front of the forward most gun tubs at the corners of the flight deck.

I'm not sure about the rear. There are a lot of holes there but it doesn't look like each ship had them or that they went all the way through the plate. However, that means the kit part could be used, without drilling, and painted (what color??) like in the photos. Not a full solution but helps.

I have the Gambier Bay AOTS but it has nothing in the drawings. Great source but disappointing for key features. However, it's photos, combined with Navsource were helpful.

The Navsource photos were for:
Forward: Bismark Sea, Corregidor, Petrof Bay, Rudyard Bay, Shamrock Bay, Shiloh Bay, St. Lo, and Takanis Bay.
Aft: Anzio, Sitkoh Bay.

A sidenote is that the aft photos, including others that weren't at an angle to show the brace, made a good comparison with Thetis Bay as CVHA (a separate entry in Navsource from Thetis Bay as CVE),


Thanks for the reply. After reviewing photos I made the same call, but was happy to accept the kit's arrangement as "close enough". I'm on to painting the hull. A bit more work on the flight deck before painting. And then a whole lot of photo-etch and aircraft.
Post Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:58 pm
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To ESzczesniak, photos.
Haven't been on this site in a while.
Coincidentally last Friday (1/16) I was looking for the same Casablanca class fore/aft flight deck support photos.
I went through Navsource, each ship, every picture (I'm retired, I can do that!).

I found enough good photos of the forward supports to go ahead with the drill bits. Make note that "good enough" was for illustration---some of the photos aren't really so good.
Be sure to look at all of them!
There are holes not included in the kit and the kit has the wrong size for the big uns!
Also note the holes in the fore/aft members.
Some show holes in the front of the forward most gun tubs at the corners of the flight deck.

I'm not sure about the rear. There are a lot of holes there but it doesn't look like each ship had them or that they went all the way through the plate. However, that means the kit part could be used, without drilling, and painted (what color??) like in the photos. Not a full solution but helps.

I have the Gambier Bay AOTS but it has nothing in the drawings. Great source but disappointing for key features. However, it's photos, combined with Navsource were helpful.

The Navsource photos were for:
Forward: Bismark Sea, Corregidor, Petrof Bay, Rudyard Bay, Shamrock Bay, Shiloh Bay, St. Lo, and Takanis Bay.
Aft: Anzio, Sitkoh Bay.

A sidenote is that the aft photos, including others that weren't at an angle to show the brace, made a good comparison with Thetis Bay as CVHA (a separate entry in Navsource from Thetis Bay as CVE),
Post Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:43 am
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Hmm. There doesn't seem to be any 1/700 scale model kits of HMS Nariana or Audacity out there. :Mad_5:
Post Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:44 am
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Sorry to necro, but ironshipwright doesn't mfg the bogue in 1:250 anymore. They said there were rumors of a middle east company doing so in plastic but would not release who (which I understand). Does anyone have information as to who it is or where I can purchase something larger than the dinky tamiya 1:700 bogue?
Post Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:12 pm
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I've just acquired and am working on the Hasegawa 1:350 USS Gambier Bay with all the Hasegawa PE/Deck aftermarket sets. I got the "super" set and it seemed like they left out the fore and after flight deck supports. However, large parts of these appear to be similar to the kit parts with lightening holes cut out...which would be easy to do with the kit parts.

Does anyone have pictures of the fore and aft flight deck supports? I'm toiling with modifying the kit parts versus getting the WEM set in addition. I haven't been able to get good views of this area on Google pictures to figure out how worthwhile this wound be. Any help with photographic documentation of this area would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Post Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:50 pm
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Dick, probably not Nabob. She was torpedoed off the north coast of Norway in August, 1944 while involved with air strikes against Tirpitz.

Paul
Post Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:32 pm
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My father was a B-17 pilot in the USAAF. Some time in late 1944, he was transported to England on the Ile de France. He told a story about seeing a CVE that was escorting them (as they approached England) being torpedoed in the stern. He described "planes falling off the deck". Of course, his transport took an immediate turn away from the scene, so he never saw the aftermath. Any chance this was Nabob?
Post Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:30 am
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I wished my father in law was still alive as he served on the Trumpter until she was returned to the US in 1946. He was on the same convoy which the Nabob was attached and nearly sunk. There are serveral pictures around showing the Nabob listing taken from the Trumpeter.

Norman
Post Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:52 am
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Did the amidships twin 20mm guns displace any singles or were they an extra additions?

thanks
Mike
Post Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:05 pm
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The weapons on the foc's'le are indeed twin 20mm Mk V; there was another each side amidships, in sponsons in the flight deck catwalks. These were fitted some time after she commissioned - earlier photos only show single mountings.
Post Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:54 pm
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tjstoneman wrote:
I'm afraid I don't know the colours - interpretation of black and white photos is notoriously difficult! There are photos of her in two different schemes at http://www.royalnavyresearcharchive.org ... ONz2MTldY; one of these is similar to the drawings of AVENGER's and ATTACKER's port sides in the Warship Perspectives book, which states that AVENGER wore USN colours (Navy Blue, Ocean Gray, Haze Gray and White) in this scheme and ATTACKER used only Navy Blue, Ocean Gray and Haze Gray. The upper photo on that page, taken later than the lower one, shows SEARCHER in a later scheme, similar in style to those in the third volume of Warship Perspectives, and presumably uses the RN range of colours. One photo shows SEARCHER with her pennant number "40" in the same tone as the lightest colour of her camouflage.



Thanks again, I'll be able to work something out I think!

Are those power twin 20mm guns on the bow?, If so, were they fitted anywhere else?

thanks
Mike
Post Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:58 pm
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I'm afraid I don't know the colours - interpretation of black and white photos is notoriously difficult! There are photos of her in two different schemes at http://www.royalnavyresearcharchive.org ... ONz2MTldY; one of these is similar to the drawings of AVENGER's and ATTACKER's port sides in the Warship Perspectives book, which states that AVENGER wore USN colours (Navy Blue, Ocean Gray, Haze Gray and White) in this scheme and ATTACKER used only Navy Blue, Ocean Gray and Haze Gray. The upper photo on that page, taken later than the lower one, shows SEARCHER in a later scheme, similar in style to those in the third volume of Warship Perspectives, and presumably uses the RN range of colours. One photo shows SEARCHER with her pennant number "40" in the same tone as the lightest colour of her camouflage.
Post Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:18 pm

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