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Topic review - Calling all IJN Carrier fans
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I have seen lines like that on some larger scale models. Most of them are tethers attached to boats to keep them from drifting off after they've been launched. I have not seen a standard pattern for their use.
Post Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:35 pm
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They could be mooring lines in preparation to come along side.
Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:12 am
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Dan K wrote:
Nice, very clean.

Yes, agreed. That's a big a$$ flight deck.
Post Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:55 am
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Dan K wrote:
Personally, I think it's artistic license. I see hanging lines like these on a lot of super detailed models, like extra eye candy. However, I don't think you'd see too any loose, hanging lines on board an actual ship underway. Maybe from the boat booms, if not properly secured.

Certainly nothing in the photographic record that I can recall.


Thx, Dan. Doesn't make sense to me either. I would not have any explanation than rolled up torpedo nets, but then the suspensions rods are missing.

Eye, eye

Jack
Post Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:50 am
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Personally, I think it's artistic license. I see hanging lines like these on a lot of super detailed models, like extra eye candy. However, I don't think you'd see too any loose, hanging lines on board an actual ship underway. Maybe from the boat booms, if not properly secured.

Certainly nothing in the photographic record that I can recall.
Post Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:36 pm
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Hi Sailors,

Just another one on the Shinano. I am currently researching for my next project: the Shinano in 1/1.200. As there are only a couple of photos around, given that she was one of the "secret ships" of the IJN, I am heavily depending on painting & marking guides. In a couple of them, she has some kind of ropes hanging on the hull, as highlighted on the attached painting guide (hope it is visible).

What is it? Is it rolled-up torpedo nets? I have no explanation or clue. Anybody an idea what that is?

Thx a lot, guys.

Jack


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:22 am
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Nice, very clean.
Post Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:31 pm
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Finally got Hasegawa's 1/450 Shinano done.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:05 pm
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Dan K wrote:
It's all conjecture. She was not operational when sunk, so chances are that final markings were not yet in place.


Makes sense. Thanks for the sanity check!
Post Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:47 pm
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It's all conjecture. She was not operational when sunk, so chances are that final markings were not yet in place.
Post Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:18 pm
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Question for the IJN carrier aficionados - what deck markings would Shinano most likely have? I understand this is going to be somewhat debatable given the lack of information. The newer Hasagewa and Fujimi kits have a single dashed line down the flight (consistent with Zuikaku and Zuiho during their fateful sortie to Leyte), but older kits have multiple white lines down the long axis of the deck and the alternating white/red strips at stern end of the flight deck. Or, is this something that is up to interpretation and/or artistic license? Thanks.
Post Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:53 pm
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I haven’t built the Fujimi kit, but I can say that the newer Hasegawa 1/450 is way better than the old one that came out decades ago and is the best large scale (larger than 1/700) version out there. This is my second attempt at building the kit because the first one ended in disaster (I was rushed to complete it before a big move). I wish there was a dedicated photo-etch set for it, but I’ve been making do with using parts from other 1/450 photo-etch sets. I’ll post photos when I’m done.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:48 pm
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Hasegawa is 1/450 vs Fujimi 1/700. Hasegawa is larger, but the Fujimi is a NEXT (snap-together) kit. Couldn't say.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:33 am
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how hard is the hasegawa shinano (to me he seem easier to build than the fujimi one)
Post Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:35 am
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Ed R wrote:
You are correct that Shinano never had an air group assigned but the ship did conduct some aircraft trials underway that involved aircraft landing and launching. I believe one of the aircraft was a "Grace" torpedo bomber.

She did, however have, Hikochos (Air Officers) assigned:

(Equipping Officer) - CDR Sakinaga Yoshiro (54) - 15 September 1944 - 1 October 1944
(Equipping Officer) - LCDR Shiga Yoshio (62) - 1 October 1944 - 19 November 1944
LCDR Shiga Yoshio (62) - 19 November 1944 - 29 November 1944

According to Enright's book Shinano!, Shiga was not aboard for the final voyage; he was waiting for the ship in Kure.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:28 am
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FWIW, Sweet makes really nice 1/144 scale aircraft including various Zero marks: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/search?typ1_ ... ntry=Japan
Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:23 pm
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You are correct that Shinano never had an air group assigned but the ship did conduct some aircraft trials underway that involved aircraft landing and launching. I believe one of the aircraft was a "Grace" torpedo bomber.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:28 pm
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Thanks for the info Dan K. This will be my first R/C carrier of any type, previously I have just made HM Cruisers and a couple of Destroyers. Didn't want to post pictures here as its off topic. I think I will stick to the arrangement on the Aoshima kit that I have, just copy as best I can and hope for the best. I only do "stand off" because this is probably my upper skill level and money is my prime consideration. Not looking forward to scratchbuilding a couple of Zeros either. Thanks again.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:44 pm
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Information on Shinano has been posted in the Calling IJN Carrier Fans (viewtopic.php?f=46&t=4717).

The crane folds into the deck, like other IjN carriers. My guess is that the crane was installed at the time of her commissioning. But, there are only 3 known photos of her, 2 of which were taken at high altitude so they are very low resolution photos that are not good enough to make out any details. The 3rd photo was taken during sea trials but doesn’t show the crane up. Most models I’ve seen of her include a deck load of aircraft and the crane, even though she didn’t have an assigned air group at the time of her loss. She was transporting a load of Okha flying bombs to be offloaded when she reached Kure. Call it artistic license when you see the aircraft (I’m currently working on the Hasegawa 1/450 kit and plan to put aircraft on because a carrier doesn’t look right without a deck load of aircraft).
Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:45 am
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Since the shinano doesn't have a post,I decided to do it and I have some question ,particulary regarding some interpretation who put a crane on the rear of the ship while other not (the fujimi one for example and hasegawa made it optional),now since the shinano was sunk uncomplete,it seem like everyone who did this ship in model (tamiya,fujimi and hasegawa) did it completed.
here is a good link on how it would have looked if completed as a battleship https://warshipprojects.com/2018/04/24/ ... s-genesis/
Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:52 am

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