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Topic review - Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Forward Flight Deck Tubs and Bow and Stern 20mm CV-6 Oct  Reply with quote
he is talking about CV-6 USS Enterprise.
Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:07 am
  Post subject:  Re: Forward Flight Deck Tubs and Bow and Stern 20mm CV-6 Oct  Reply with quote
Which kit are you talking about, Bill?

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:00 am
  Post subject:  Forward Flight Deck Tubs and Bow and Stern 20mm CV-6 Oct 42?  Reply with quote
The new Trumpeter kit in 1/700 has what appears to be 50 cals being placed in the very forward tubs on the flight deck (above the bow mounted 1.1) and a 20mm on either side of bow mounted 1.1. There is nothing for the stern boat deck with the exception of the 20mm cut into the stern flight deck round down above. If no 50 cals per previous post what then was in those forward tubs and is placement of the other 20mm bow and (and) maybe stern accurate?
Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:52 am
  Post subject:  Re: Does Enterprise carry 4-50cals into Santa Cruz?  Reply with quote
none according to this link. http://www.cv6.org/ship/armament.htm
Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:53 am
  Post subject:  Does Enterprise carry 4-50cals into Santa Cruz?  Reply with quote
I have the new 1/700 Trumpeter Enterprise kit and it indicates 4-50 cals in mounts P/S of bow flight deck and 2 P/S of bow mounted 1.1. Is this correct? There are little details to this kit that are not so accurate.
Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:08 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
Mk 45s were only used on battleships as far as I've seen - I believe they were considered too heavy for carriers.
Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:01 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
From the photos I have, USS ENTERPRISE (CV-6) had Mk 51 directors for directing her quad 40-mm mounts. I believe that she had Mk 44 directors for her quad 1.1-in mounts prior to installation of the 40-mm mounts.

The Mk 44 director was an interim director intended for use with the quad 1.1-in mounts until the Mk 49 director was available. The Mk 49 director had development problems that delayed deployment and the Mk 51 director was developed as another "interim" director, which ended up being found superior to the Mk 49 director and lasted well after the Mk 49 director program was cancelled in September 1943. The Mk 44 director was never used with any 40-mm gun mounts, as far as I know.
Post Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:57 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
Hello,

Can anyone please inform me the type of AA Gun Directors used on CV-6 USS ENTERPRISE 's 40mm Quad Bofors from September 1942 to December 1942?
Was it the Mk-44 Gun Directors ?
or the Mk-45 Gun Directors (used on BB-57 USS SOUTH DAKOTA based on http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/57jk.htm) ?
or the Mk-49 Gun Directors (used on BB-56 USS WASHINGTON based on http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/Misc/Mk49/BB56x2-18Aug42.jpg) ?
or the Mk-51 Gun Directors ?
I appreciate for any clarification and information.
Thanks in advance.

CV-6 in 10NOV1942
https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/NH-81000/NH-81076.html
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CV-6 in 21NOV1942
https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/19-N-47000/19-N-47849.html
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Post Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 10:44 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
Thanks, Martin!

I hope I can visit there sometime as I would just like to actually touch the nameplate. That would be awesome.

Kelley
Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:30 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
Enterprise's stern plate, Riverdale NJ.
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The stern plate is located in a Veteran's Park in Riverdale, NJ. The man who was in charge of scrapping Enterprise lived in Riverdale, and made sure this part was saved for posterity. There is a small display inside the library (next to the park), with artifacts from Enterprise. More photos posted on the MW Facebook page (which you should already be following!).
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:40 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
I may have missed it in this discussion, but..............

When did CV-6 go to a muted deck marking system ?

I have a picture of her flight deck with high contrast marking sometime early in the war, March (?) and thought that she went to a low contrast deck marking system about May 1942 ?

Thanks for any help !
Steve Wiper
Post Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:23 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
Enterprise reminds me of a British figure in the Battle of Britain, who said words to the effect of "I didn't have to win, I simply had to not lose."
Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:01 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
I hope it would have been kept in commission like Constitution and Victory. I'm not exactly sure when the USN stopped naming their CVs after famous ships or battles and started naming them after political leaders but I regret it. (The Vinson? Stennis?) If we're going to honor Presidents, there should be some empty slots for the Carter, Clinton and Obama. In any case there are a number of notable US ships with names available and even more battles. I don't think it would have diminished the fame of the Enterprise if the real ship was still with us. It did, after all, have a war record that is simply astounding.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:49 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
consider this, if cv6 was not scrapped then would there have been a cvn 65 & eventually cvn 80?
Post Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:52 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
Nice gestures no doubt. I was once involved with the Enterprise Association and their members often argued about who was responsible for the failure to keep E intact as a war memorial. Many of the members considered the scrapping as almost a crime against history. (Many speculated that Arleigh Burke had it in for Halsey - I can't confirm that.) Whatever happened the funds never appeared - someone thought a floating war memorial would be a waste of money. Let's think though. If CV6 was sitting in New York Harbor and contained as many representative "war birds" as possible and other exhibits, would anyone go see it? I think so.
Eric
Post Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:58 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
DennisJP wrote:
Any one know if there going to put the port holes from CVN 65?CV 6 in the new Enterprise CVN 80? The port holes are in the CVNs 65 bow in the front of the ship between the bridle sponsons. Those are from CV 6 as I am sure you know,


According to the NHHC, the CV-6 portholes were installed in the Captain's cabin, not the bow (which would make sense, given the increased exposure to the elements at the bow).

But yes, they are slated to be re-installed on CVN 80: http://usnhistory.navylive.dodlive.mil/ ... ise-story/

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One of six porthole frames and covers removed from the bridge of USS Enterprise (CV-6) in 1958. These portholes were installed in the Captain’s cabin aboard USS Enterprise (CVN-65) and are slated to be installed aboard the next ship to bear the name of Enterprise, CVN-80.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:01 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
This is CV-6 Enterprise, the WWII ship and not the nuc.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:32 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
Any one know if there going to put the port holes from CVN 65?CV 6 in the new Enterprise CVN 80? The port holes are in the CVNs 65 bow in the front of the ship between the bridle sponsons. Those are from CV 6 as I am sure you know,
Post Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:22 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
And this could all be fixed if they would just accept help....
Post Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:24 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans  Reply with quote
From what little can be seen, it appears to be close to the Santa Cruz fit, but with Trumpy's usual "omissions". TBD's were gone by then. The hull appears to have the Yorktown degaussing cable pattern, rather than Enterprise's. Nothing that can't be fixed, but annoying. I will still get one.
Post Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:13 pm

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