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Topic review - Calling all IJN Shokaku-class fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Shokaku-class fans  Reply with quote
Thanks Dan, I have a MacBook from 2006 and a new more reliable internet provider so hopefully I can post some. I have been ordering various 1/350 PE sets from Ebay as well as receiving the Gakken vol. 13 (wow great book, wish I knew how to read Japanese but still a great help with Zuikaku pics). I don't know if anyone came to the conclusion on which Flyhawk mast set works for Shokaku class but it is set Roman numeral III FH 350138.
Post Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:41 pm
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The maximum parameters are a pixel width or height of 1199, and a maximum file size of 400KB. All can be adjusted in an image editing program, say, like Photoshop.
Post Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 2:43 pm
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Love to post pics of my 1/350 Zuikaku but keep having problems with the 400 pixel limit. I've been on the form and read the different options but still a lil too big.
Post Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 10:17 pm
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Hi,
I am needing a high resolution scan of Shokaku as a waterline drawing---line drawing or in gray scale.

If anyone has the Fujimi Shokaku model (1972 model ship) in 1/700 scale, this would have the very waterline drawing that I need to cover a project. Of course, Tamiya's instructions with the 1/700 scale Shokaku can help me cover this task.

Thanks
~ Rod
Post Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:10 pm
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I'm not sure that it's any more complicated than the Hikawa Maru kit. You seem to be doing fine with that.

While we have some very nice 1/350 builds in the gallery, we don't have a W-I-P for a 1/350 version yet. You could Google that. There was at least one on Modelshipwrights. Some Japanese and S.Korean sites/blogs have some builds, too.
Post Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:37 pm
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Something in the works?


I have the Fujimi 1/350 Zuikaku. I never built anything that big and really don't where to start. Going to test the waters by covering port holes and adding doors to the hull. I have been working the front deck and may start a WIP thread at some point.
Post Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 10:11 am
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The eyebrows were removed. The Junyo photo below shows this particularly well, with good contrast between the open and sealed portholes.

The camo color plate from Maru Special #6 is probably close, though the green too bright and the brown flight deck too dark, IMHO. There are countless interpretations; another is below. (The turret outlines had mostly disappeared by the time of Leyte Gulf.) Fyi, the original film clip is in b&w; this cell has been colorized.

Something in the works?


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Post Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:32 pm
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If covering the port holes on the Zuikaku would the molded on eyebrows be removed?


Was also looking at the camo and was wondering if this would be more correct?

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Colorized from B@W.

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Drawing from the Maru 8 (?). I would guess this was envisioned from the original B@W photo.
Post Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 12:46 pm
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For those who do use the Shipyard deck sets I would suggest using a spray adhesive to put a light coat on before tacking down, otherwise a few air pockets can pop up. I had a couple of them and had to carefully lance and get a lil diluted PVA glue in there and clamp down. The detail and brass is soo good and I used 3M Super 77 spray adhesive to secure the brass on the deck and is holding very well.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:01 pm
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You're welcome, and looking forward to your photos. Yes, the Shipyard sets are impressive, particularly for the cost. I have a review of the Hiryu set (which is basically the same) which I hope will post next month.
Post Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:32 pm
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I just received my 1/350 Zuikaku wooden deck and pe from Shipyard works in China. I love it. Very good deal as it comes with pe for 42' Shakaku, anchor chain to scale, arresting wires, a mask for Zuikaku camo deck 44', and the brass pe is super easy to work with. I will post pics of a complete build of my 1/350 Zuikaku with plated over porthole covers, AV gas protection plates on the hull, and rocket launchers moved up a deck from the aft AC engine testing area near the aft boat deck soon. Thanks to this forum and Dan Kaplan for the technical info.
Post Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:53 am
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thanks Dan!!
Post Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:52 am
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Thanks Mike. Unfortunately, they are sold out of plans for the carrier. I did pickup the eBay book though.
Post Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:00 pm
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Hey Dan, I noticed the Fujimi 1/350 Zuikaku 44' kit has the aft rocket launchers on the same deck as the a/c engine-run hangers. Should they be a deck higher, closer to the flight deck?


Sorry, didn't see this 'till now. Yes.,
Post Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:44 pm
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Harpy - If "online source" means a place to find them online, try here: http://www2.odn.ne.jp/miyukikai/ If you mean posted online, you're pretty much SOL.

Gakken #13 currently on eBay (covers both Sho and Zui):
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R ... 13+zuikaku

HTH
Post Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:46 am
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Only 10K? Jeez. Well, that doesn't come with '44 plans, either.

No, no online plans. Some illustrations with fuel tanks only. See bottom of page 12.
Post Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:55 pm
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Are there plans available online for the Zuikaku 44? I can't find them if there are.

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Front aviation fuel armor?.... Selling on Amazon wants 10k for this magazine, which is just out of my price range.

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Found this online, supposedly crew dumping ammo from the Zuikaku though it's been rotated a bit.
Post Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:45 pm
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Hey Dan, I noticed the Fujimi 1/350 Zuikaku 44' kit has the aft rocket launchers on the same deck as the a/c engine-run hangers. Should they be a deck higher, closer to the flight deck?
Post Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:24 pm
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I suppose wheeled cradles or dolleys were possible, though those longer launches weighed 7-9 tons, depending on length.

I did not look again at the Miyukikai planset. I was sceptical of wood planking in that area until I reviewed my photos yet again. Below is a photo of the upper boat platform looking forward and to starboard. The photographer was standing on the centerline. I have to say, it does look like there is at least some planking at middle, bottom. I am surprised. I thought linoleum or treaded steel, for sure.


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:22 pm
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I can't agree with the removable plating idea because they'd still have to contend with the support framing, or having to move upper boats to get to the lower ones. There is also that issue with the planking shown on the Miyukikai plans. Does that show on your other plans?
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Some American ships had cradles on racks with wheels, so the whole thing rolled around, or could be fixed to the deck when stowed, but I haven't seen any indication that the Japanese did that. OTOH, if there were no inner boats, the outer boats were already using the overhead cranes and tracks, with no need for other handling equipment.

The only solution I can think of would be to arrange the lower, inner boats in an athwartship setup on dollies with wheels, which is unlikely considering your photo. Without proof of their being there, we may have to just install the inner boats and hope nobody notices.
Post Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:56 am

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