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Topic review - Calling all WWII Essex Class Carrier Fans!
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all WWII Essex Class Carrier Fans!  Reply with quote
Trumpeter remains the only maker of WWII Essexes in plastic, so yes.
Post Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 10:26 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all WWII Essex Class Carrier Fans!  Reply with quote
Hi all, is the trumpeter kit still the best 1/350 plastic kit available?
Post Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 7:19 pm
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Tracy White wrote:
Hey Sean - my book is going to have errors and omissions but hopefully a whole heck of a lot more information than has ever been presented before - just need to find the right publisher. :)


... oh and reserve me a copy of your book as well!!
Post Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:27 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all WWII Essex Class Carrier Fans!  Reply with quote
Tracy White wrote:
Hey Joe - welcome to the forum! Sorry for responding a couple of weeks late - somehow I missed the notification email that this thread had been updated.

Bunker Hill and Franklin came out of overhaul at Puget Sound about the same time so any of the modifications that were done to the island should be the same, but they were built at different shipyards so there were minor differences that they left alone (for example the ladder between the flag bridge and navigation bridge). Saying Bunker Hill had an island like no other sister ship is unfortunately something you can say for each of the other sisters - they were all alike and no two were the same other than when initially launched, and even then....

I've been working on a book on the class and have a lot of photos and textual records from the US National Archives. I'm not going to post what I have here 'cause I actually still hope to have there be a desire for the book once it's done, but I will help. PM inbound.


Tracy,

Thanks for the welcome aboard and the info on the BH island and I got your PM and will be in touch.

Starting Monday, I'll be working from home due to the pandemic so it should be interesting to see what my new "normal" will be like for a while...

Stay safe everyone!!
Post Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:25 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all WWII Essex Class Carrier Fans!  Reply with quote
Hey Sean - my book is going to have errors and omissions but hopefully a whole heck of a lot more information than has ever been presented before - just need to find the right publisher. :)
Post Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:52 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all WWII Essex Class Carrier Fans!  Reply with quote
Tracy White wrote:
Hey Joe - welcome to the forum! Sorry for responding a couple of weeks late - somehow I missed the notification email that this thread had been updated.

Bunker Hill and Franklin came out of overhaul at Puget Sound about the same time so any of the modifications that were done to the island should be the same, but they were built at different shipyards so there were minor differences that they left alone (for example the ladder between the flag bridge and navigation bridge). Saying Bunker Hill had an island like no other sister ship is unfortunately something you can say for each of the other sisters - they were all alike and no two were the same other than when initially launched, and even then....

I've been working on a book on the class and have a lot of photos and textual records from the US National Archives. I'm not going to post what I have here 'cause I actually still hope to have there be a desire for the book once it's done, but I will help. PM inbound.


Tracy -

Though I have already completed my build of the entire class, I will most certainly purchase your book if it comes to fruition! (And then read it, and agonize over whether to pull my fleet into refit to fix all the errors I no doubt made! :) )

- Sean F.
Post Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:44 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all WWII Essex Class Carrier Fans!  Reply with quote
Hey Joe - welcome to the forum! Sorry for responding a couple of weeks late - somehow I missed the notification email that this thread had been updated.

Bunker Hill and Franklin came out of overhaul at Puget Sound about the same time so any of the modifications that were done to the island should be the same, but they were built at different shipyards so there were minor differences that they left alone (for example the ladder between the flag bridge and navigation bridge). Saying Bunker Hill had an island like no other sister ship is unfortunately something you can say for each of the other sisters - they were all alike and no two were the same other than when initially launched, and even then....

I've been working on a book on the class and have a lot of photos and textual records from the US National Archives. I'm not going to post what I have here 'cause I actually still hope to have there be a desire for the book once it's done, but I will help. PM inbound.
Post Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:09 pm
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Charybdis,

Thanks for posting that outstanding video. The amount of detail was amazing and the fact it was in color made it that much more enjoyable. I was pleased to see a few seconds of SHANGRI-LA cruising beside YORKTOWN.

WELL DONE,
Bob
Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:31 pm
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I'm sharing this awesome footage I found on YouTube called The Return of the Fighting Lady. The film about VF-88 statoned on USS YORKTOWN CV-10 in June 1945. Photo's of CV-10 late war seem quite thin on the ground so I was astonished to see this color footage.

https://youtu.be/PcrbEchf_DU
Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:04 am
  Post subject:  Need help modeling USS BUNKER HILL CV-17 January '45 refit  Reply with quote
I'm a newbie to the forum and amazed by the knowledge that is represented on this site! Hopefully someone can lend me a hand....

I discovered this site while doing research to build a scale model of the USS Bunker Hill CV-17 on which my father served during WW2. He was wounded during the kamikaze attacks on May 11, '45, but thankfully not critically. Sadly Dad passed away in 2008 before I had a chance to fulfill my promise to build him an accurate model of the Bunker Hill as she was the day they were hit.

I recently picked up a Trumpeter 1/350 scale USS Franklin to serve as the basis for my build. A while back I stumbled across a thread on a military memorabilia site where the gentleman was offering up a set of plans for the Bunker Hill that were marked up denoting the damage she incurred when the two kamikaze's hit, but sadly the prints had already been sold. Fortunately he had posted images of plan sheets as well as closeups of some of the pages so I downloaded them for reference for my project. This lead to my web search for a set of Bunker Hill plans and recently I finally discovered a scanned set on the web which I immediately downloaded for reference.

As I searched for additional details on the Bunker Hill and her Essex class sisters, I came across ModelMonkey's site that showed he offered several different 1/350 scale islands for the Essex class carriers. I contacted Steve and he was very helpful in my quest for an accurate '45 Bunker Hill island. I sent him the sheet from the downloaded plants covering the island levels and he pointed out to me that set of plans DID NOT reflect the Bunker Hill as she was on May 11th. I checked the cover page of both sets and discovered the scanned set that I had downloaded had been revised two additional times since her January '45 refit.... once in September '45 repairing her damage and then again in September '46 while she was mothballed. Steve also suggested I join this site as there are very knowledgeable members who could assist me in my endeavour.

First, by chance did anyone on this site purchase the set of battle damaged plans or know who did? If so, please get in touch with me to discuss the Jan '45 changes. Steve said that it appears that the Bunker Hill had a very unique island following her refit that was different from her Essex class siblings. Any information or leads on the island particulars would be greatly appreciated!

In closing, I look forward to "meeting" all of you and your help honoring my Father and his service with this model.

My sincere thanks!!
Post Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:20 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all WWII Essex Class Carrier Fans!  Reply with quote
Relating to a thought I'd just had over on the "Calling all Iowa Class Fans" thread...

I'm pretty sure that when Essex was contracted, they'd intended her to have 1.1" quads and .50 cal machine guns, probably a decent allotment of ships' boats and related handling cranes, and other features such as we see on CV-8 when first commissioned. Does anyone know a source for the contract drawings prior to the war-experience modifications she completed with? (Maybe even with the planned deck markings? ESSX or maybe just SX at each end? Just thinking of doing a "Wait, that's not right..." could-have-been build.)

- Sean F.
Post Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:39 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all WWII Essex Class Carrier Fans!  Reply with quote
After digging through everything I could find on her I think the trumpeter kit is a late 1944 early 1945 version of Yorktown after her overhaul in mid 44 but before her repaint was ordered in February of 45 based on that document you linked Tracy. Does that sound right and if it is what major differences in 1/700 scale would she have had by August/September 45?
Post Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:28 pm
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Yes.
Post Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:52 pm
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Tracy White wrote:
Dragon 1/700th CV-16 Lexington kit was kitted to summer of 1945 fit (April/May through August) so no worries there. I don't have the same familiarity with the Trumpeter Yorktown and will have to look over the weekend.


Awesome thanks Tracy that makes the dragon kit a whole lot easier by that point Lexington was in MS-12 correct?
Post Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:30 pm
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Dragon 1/700th CV-16 Lexington kit was kitted to summer of 1945 fit (April/May through August) so no worries there. I don't have the same familiarity with the Trumpeter Yorktown and will have to look over the weekend.
Post Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:17 pm
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I've got the dragon 1/700 Lexington and the Trumpeter 1/700 Yorktown I want to build both as they appeared in June/August 45. I think both kits are late 44 ships is this correct and what major external changes would be required? Thanks
Post Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:57 pm
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Thank you! I’ve been trying to figure it out for a Cv9 build and it seems to correspond with the placement of the gasoline stations on the catwalks


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:37 am
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If you're referring to the mostly horizontal piping below the roller doors that was the aviation gasoline piping. Once the aviation gasoline system was outside of the ship's armor (which ended on the hangar deck) the gasoline system was routed outside the structure so that if it was pierced when full of gas the majority. if not all, of the gasoline would burn off or vent off outside instead of inside the ship. This was a lesson of CV-2 Lexington's loss and the ships would additionally drain the systems when not in use in case of surprise attack. The pips themselves ran up to refueling stations on the catwalks that had refueling/defueling pumps and hoses.
Post Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:30 am
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Can someone please tell me what the pipes are down the hull of the ship? Are they


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:07 am
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It's a much easier mistake to deal with than the other way around! :big_grin: :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:47 am

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