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Topic review - Calling all USS Hornet CV-8 fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Hornet CV-8 fans  Reply with quote
Last few....again, courtesy RV Petrel
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Post Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:50 pm
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Yes, considering the pounding she took, parts of her are in great shape. And all the thanks goes to Fred, for pestering Petrel for access to these! All photos courtesy of RV Petrel.

I had downloaded a few more, which I neglected to post. Here is the first batch.
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File comment: Note the camo on the corner of the gun tub platform
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Post Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:48 pm
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Incredible pictures! Thanks for posting them, Martin. Hornet looks to be in great condition... :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:02 pm
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More...
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File comment: 20mm guns on the port side hangar deck, somewhere before the break in the hull
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File comment: 20mm guns on the port side hangar deck, somewhere before the break in the hull
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File comment: 20mm gun tub on the aft port quarter of the flight deck
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File comment: Looks like primer on the bulkhead behind the 20mm
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:16 pm
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A few stills, all courtesy of RV Petrel:
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File comment: Forward bow and hull number. Note the "scalloped" camo coming DOWN from the deck. Most modelers miss this on their Hornet models.
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File comment: Portside forward 5 inch gun tubs. Note the stripe camo on the sides of the gun tubs
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File comment: Portside forward 5 inch gun tubs. Note the stripe camo on the sides of the gun tubs
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File comment: Portside forward 5 inch gun tubs. Note the stripe camo on the sides of the gun tubs
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File comment: Note how the camo is on the aft side of the gun tub as well. This is mirrored on the starboard side
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:13 pm
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HORNET WRECK PHOTOS

I now have all Hornet wreck photos taken by the Petrel. So does Martin Quinn.

As with Juneau for anyone willing to accept facts and photos there was no repainting of the hull. The island paint is pretty deteriorated or coated in crud.

If you want the photos email me.
Post Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:22 pm
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Difficult to tell, but in the last pic I posted, the more I look at it the more I think the overheads are metal and the bulkheads are white.
Post Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:11 am
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If going strictly by probabilities, what would the most likely color be? The ship was ordered late and commissioned so close to wartime, that if they new there would be a transition in colors coming, they would have for sure tried to stay a step ahead and paint it via what the new regulations would require.
Post Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:44 pm
  Post subject:  Re: USS Hornet CV-8 hangar deck question.  Reply with quote
Thanks for the feedback Tracy. Attached are a couple of photo's of the Hornet around commissioning time that I found. The overheads in both photos appear to be metal and not white. The bulkheads I'm not sure.It would be great if we could one day find the documents proving one way or the other.


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:29 am
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The silver would have been the pre-war carriers and we don't know when its use was stopped, so it's possible that Hornet was commissioned with white bulkheads and overheads. It's something the modeler is going to have to decide on their own at this point as we don't even have documentation that proves silver paint, let alone orders discontinuing its use.
Post Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:02 pm
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The more I investigate it's possible that the hangar bay bulkheads and overheads were in fact painted silver not white. The hangar doors are a darker shade again due to different metal. There's a photo of the hangar bay of the Wasp showing this and I wouldn't think the Hornet would be much different. I'm going with anodize silver with steel for the doors.


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:14 pm
  Post subject:  Re: USS Hornet CV-8 hangar deck question.  Reply with quote
Good question and I’m curious myself.
Post Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:48 pm
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Building the 1/200 scale kit. Would anyone know if the inside of the hangar doors since being roller doors would be white the same as the rest of the hangar bay walls or perhaps they were left in their natural metal state? I've searched online but can't see any details pics to clarify.
Thanks in advance.
Post Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:12 pm
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DavidP wrote:


Thank you for the answer. I thought as much but wasn't sure.

Chris
Post Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:41 pm
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because it was colored incorrectly.
early 1942 http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020860.jpg
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/08.htm
Post Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:53 pm
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Captain Morgan wrote:
Other photos from Navsource

8 B-25 and 2 SBD's on the way to Japan
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http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020872.jpg

View of the farthest forward B-25 (Doolittle's)
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http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020825.jpg

Looking at Doolittle's plane with 5 F4F's forward of the forward elevator which is lowered.
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http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020833e.jpg


Hi guys,
I know this is a "colorized" photo but the FD in this picture looks very much like it is a non-stained wooden deck. Is this just the way it was colored?

I look forward to hearing from you,

Chris
Post Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:40 pm
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DavidP wrote:
weave them in a bit more so the 2 bombers on the stern are not overhanging so much.


They're all glued down already :( the planes sit on their tails not their landing gear, and they're light so they move at the slightest touch, so there was no realistic way to test-fit the arrangement. I just started at the back and followed the pictures as closely as I could, looking down the length of the ship to get the same point of view as the photographer on the bridge to judge the angles.
Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:49 am
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weave them in a bit more so the 2 bombers on the stern are not overhanging so much.
Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:57 am
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So this is as close as I could get the arrangement of the B-25s on my Trumpeter 1/700 Hornet. It's a bit messier than it looks in the photos, and I think the No.1 plane is still too far forward but I tried my best. What do you think?
Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:31 am
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I know I have seen at least one color picture of the Hornet on commissioning day and it did have a blue deck. I think the markings were mid tone gray but it has been awhile since I saw to be 100% sure.
Post Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:14 am

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