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Topic review - Calling All USS Langley Fans (CV-1 / AV-3)
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Another late image of the Covered Wagon at Darwin...her camo scheme was based on funnel smoke and coffee grounds IIRC. :smallsmile:


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:49 am
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A page back, I posted a photo from the book "Every Day a Nightmare", which shows Langley in Australia, just before her fateful voyage.

viewtopic.php?f=46&t=154730&start=20#p935630

Looks like something is going on there - maybe a rushed and/or poorly applied coat of Cavite Blue?
Post Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:41 pm
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whaynes wrote:
Anyone have an idea what the camouflage measure Langley was in at time of sinking? Thanks.
Walt Haynes


From this photo when she was scuttled by torpedoes, apparently there was no camouflage.


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:05 pm
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Anyone have a good idea what camoflage scheme USS Langley, AV-3 was in at the time of her sinking? Doesn't look dark enough to be Measure 1.......
Post Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 1:18 pm
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https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29389- ... /#comments

I’m in the process of building a Langley, what type of wood did they use on the deck?
Post Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:54 am
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That’s what I thought, like her younger siblings did
Post Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:43 pm
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Greg lester wrote:
Studying the images I see there are pipes running along both sides of the hull, I take it they are fuel lines?

Guessing they are aviation fuel lines
Post Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:02 pm
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Studying the images I see there are pipes running along both sides of the hull, I take it they are fuel lines?
Post Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:28 am
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MartinJQuinn wrote:
Greg lester wrote:
Unfortunately the image does not show

You have to be logged in to see it. Not sure if you are posting as a guest.

Those cranes don't look like they'd handle the larger seaplanes being hoisted by the dockside crane.


Yea I was logged in. Just was and is not visible on phone but is on desktop thanks
Post Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:55 am
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Here's a poor quality Xerox copy of pics showing the retrieval of an SOC from LANGLEY, etc. I am skeptical these electric cranes could have lifted a PBY, too, but really have no info on that pro or con.
Photos of AV-3 at Sitka and French Frigate Shoals never show her lifting PBYs.
Years ago I knew & communicated often with an old LANGLEY survivor who could have easily answered such questions...


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:51 am
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Greg lester wrote:
Unfortunately the image does not show

You have to be logged in to see it. Not sure if you are posting as a guest.

Those cranes don't look like they'd handle the larger seaplanes being hoisted by the dockside crane.
Post Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:28 am
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Unfortunately the image does not show
Post Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:36 pm
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An example of one of Langley's two cranes in action:
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Post Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:41 pm
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Dammit that makes so much sense and I completely missed it, thanks.
Post Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:56 pm
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LANGLEY definitely could & did bring aboard the single engine floatplanes of the Utility Squadron by her own cranes. I believe I once posted photos of that here (which I still have), but in any case, they were lifted onto the hangar-deck, then placed on the elevator and brought up on the flight deck.

I think they placed the planes at an angle on the elevator...then folded the wings later once up on the flight deck when they were in their cradles.


HTH
Post Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:17 am
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Two photos of Langley as AV-3, from NARA II, courtesy of Roger Torgeson:
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:45 pm
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Greg lester wrote:
Thankyou. Any idea how the seaplanes got up on deck? From a wharf? I can’t imagine them using the ships own cranes.

Hoisted up from pier side, I would imagine.

EDIT: another photo from Roger Torgeson, showing they WERE lifted onboard by crane.
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:39 pm
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Thankyou. Any idea how the seaplanes got up on deck? From a wharf? I can’t imagine them using the ships own cranes.
Post Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:16 pm
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Great photo! Thank you for posting! :thumbs_up_1:



BobPink :wave_1:
Post Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:43 pm
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A better image of the Covered Wagon...


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