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Topic review - Calling all IJN Nagato class fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Nagato class fans  Reply with quote
Thanks for very helpful links, that's all I needed.

Timmy C wrote:
Leyte has a much more beautiful box art.

But seriously: as you can see on Hobby Search, the base kit 40024 is Nagato in 1941, while the 40073 Leyte version is, of course, 1944. That means more AA guns, radars, etc.

1941: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10062628
1944: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10088435

There are photos there of the completed model as well as some of the instructions and sprues so you can compare. The quickest way to see what differs is to compare the sprue diagram at the end of the instructions and see what's shaded (not used), and what sprues are new (e.g. sprue U for 1944).
Post Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:54 pm
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Leyte has a much more beautiful box art.

But seriously: as you can see on Hobby Search, the base kit 40024 is Nagato in 1941, while the 40073 Leyte version is, of course, 1944. That means more AA guns, radars, etc.

1941: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10062628
1944: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10088435

There are photos there of the completed model as well as some of the instructions and sprues so you can compare. The quickest way to see what differs is to compare the sprue diagram at the end of the instructions and see what's shaded (not used), and what sprues are new (e.g. sprue U for 1944).
Post Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:00 pm
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Re. Hasegawa 1/350 Nagato, there are two kits:
40024 Z24 IJN Battleship Nagato 1941
40073 IJN Battleship Nagato "THE BATTLE OF THE LEYTE GULF"

Nagato "THE BATTLE OF THE LEYTE GULF" costs more, the price difference is about 20-25%.

What are the difference(s) between those two kit versions?
Post Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:48 pm
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Thanks David :)
Post Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:35 am
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Boro wrote:
Hello friends. I need advice from you :smallsmile:
Does anybody build Nagato "The Battle of the Leyte Gulf" Hasegawa 1/350? Are there some big issues with using Pontos 35029F1 IJN NAGATO 1941 Detail Up Set? Mainly asking about the wooden deck, because other things are usually easier to modify. Thanks a lot!


Gday. I’m not an expert on this class however I have built, and am building a second 1/350 Nagato. First one was built using all of Hasegawas etch. The second is being built with the Pontos set. What I e noticed is that the Pontos set makes quite a few changes to the kits superstructure, especially aft of the main superstructure. You can see this on their site. I think that much of the Nagato kit is based on Mutsu and Pontos have mad changes to address this.

In any case, once the horrid lines are removed from the lower hull, the kit is excellent. The Pontos set is brilliant. One of their best.

In regards to your direct question. There won’t be any problems with using the Pontos set on the Leyte version. Just be aware of changes in regards to deck placement of guns etc.
Post Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:58 pm
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Hello friends. I need advice from you :smallsmile:
Does anybody build Nagato "The Battle of the Leyte Gulf" Hasegawa 1/350? Are there some big issues with using Pontos 35029F1 IJN NAGATO 1941 Detail Up Set? Mainly asking about the wooden deck, because other things are usually easier to modify. Thanks a lot!
Post Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:47 am
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What i find really facinating about the Nagato class is the main Rangefinder ontop of the superstructure. Normal Rangefinders are some kind of "Turret" that turns around its axis but on Nagato its actually on a rail that moves around the superstructure. Does anyone have any info why the Nagato class had this rather unique RF configuration compared to the other IJN BB's?
Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:15 am
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You’re a lifesaver, Dan. Thank you!
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:35 pm
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The Ishibashi book indicates that both ships did have this director arrangement. And then I found this:


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Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:27 pm
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Thanks, Dan. I really appreciate your help!
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:54 pm
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I'll try to remember to check the Ishibashi BB book tonite. Maybe that will have this configuration in it.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:58 pm
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Wouldn't the rangefinders have been added at or around that time? If they need to be deleted from the build, that's fine. If not, is the shape present in the Aoshima kit correct? The TROM isn't clear.

I've found evidence of the searchlight platforms present on NAGATO, but the photo of MUTSU with her twin funnel configuration and midships (127mm?) rangefinders present seems to be the only time I see all these features in one place.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:49 pm
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From Combinedfleet.com:

1932:
Four twin (4x2) dual purpose 5-inch (127-mm) HA guns are installed. The existing 3-inch (76-mm) AA guns are landed. Four 40-mm/62 Vickers AA guns (2 x 2) are also added to the weather deck.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:41 pm
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The rangefinders are present in the 1933 Aoshima kit. Your comment that they weren't even present during the modeled year is also a possibility I've considered. My next question: is Aoshima's 1933 kit more accurate to her 1934 fit? Were the 127mm guns installed at that point?

Thanks!
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:40 pm
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I'm not certain those rangefinders appeared until after her first modernization of 1934. You may be confusing them with the searchlight platforms errected around the funnel.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:54 pm
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I'm stealing this photo from an earlier posting for feedback on the 1933 Nagato kit:

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The midships rangefinders appear to be on a solid structure, rather than:

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I'm fearing Aoshima made the platform "solid" for Nagato by simply using the Mutsu image as evidence. I can still correct a '33 Nagato I'm working on, so I'm hoping to get a resolution to this issue.

Thanks!
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:10 am
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Jeff Dundee wrote:
Hi folks,

I have in the stock a Nagato from Otaki (1/400 scale). Unfortunately, I do not have the instruction sheets :( . If one of you has it, please let me know :thumbs_up_1:



I still have mine, give me some time to scan the pages there are quite few of them. If you can pm me your email address.



Jose :wave_1:
Post Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:57 pm
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Hi folks,

I have in the stock a Nagato from Otaki (1/400 scale). Unfortunately, I do not have the instruction sheets :( . If one of you has it, please let me know :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:11 pm
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For the most part, yes. Again, there are some detail differences .
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:24 pm
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Dan, since Mutsu is based mostly on Nagato, and I was doing Nagato in 1/350, it looks like I can use the documentation of z Nagato, right?
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:17 am

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