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Topic review - Calling all IJN Tosa (土佐) BB and Amagi (天城) class BC fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Tosa (土佐) BB and Amagi (天城) class BC fan  Reply with quote
Thx for posting.
Post Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:53 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Tosa (土佐) BB and Amagi (天城) class BC fan  Reply with quote
For anybody interested, the development of the Tosa class battleships, the preliminary designs. All of them are based on official plans:
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thread ... ost-535005
My drawing of the final Tosa design as laid down:
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https://www.deviantart.com/tzoli/art/IJ ... -852093882
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca88777 ... pZK_i07MqU

And a hypothetical 1930's modernization ala Nagato:
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https://www.deviantart.com/tzoli/art/Ka ... -917629927
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Post Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:33 am
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Dan K wrote:
Whoa! Is that injection styrene? Got a link?

Yep,but theres no official link ,its on a model show in China, theyll sell it in Japan this month.



more details:

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Why am I only able to upload two images?
Post Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:17 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Tosa (土佐) BB and Amagi (天城) class BC fan  Reply with quote
Whoa! Is that injection styrene? Got a link?
Post Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:42 pm
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JoyYard’s new products,IJN BB KAGA

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:45 am
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Here's the book and one of the relevant sections.

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:28 pm
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Coming back to this project. I just realized that I was being an idiot and was viewing the Tosa casemates as flush with the rest of the hull....

...this is without her bloody armor belt. :doh_1:

I'm not sure about the accuracy of resin parts included from the bridge and above. The citadel is too short, based on the builder's models. To be honest, the entire structure seems like it's been modeled a wee bit compressed. Interestingly enough, my spare 1920's Nagato base seems more accurate and likely easier to bash into something approaching the base of Tosa's pagoda. I plan to scratch build just about everything above this, based on level-by-level drawings in "Battleships and Battlecruisers of 'Hachi Hachi' Fleet"
Post Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:14 pm
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Since the battle cruiser design was unrealized, it's impossible to say. Everything is just conjecture.
Post Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:25 pm
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yes ,I'm asking because maybe they would be different after the trial of the fisrt 2 or correcting flaw in the initial design.
Post Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:21 am
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Have you read through the previous page?
Post Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:57 pm
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are the atago and the amagi/akagi similar? (I want to do him by using a fujimi amagi)
Post Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:04 pm
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Aop Aur wrote:
So, would that be the case that the Amagi would have had the same upgrade?

More than likely, yes.
Post Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:03 pm
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You bet. Kaga's as well, though not as crisp.


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:50 am
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Dan K wrote:
Best available views of Tosa casemates


I believe these are in the Japanese language book on the 8-8 plan I have, but in such a high resolution. Thank you! I'm seeing details I would have missed.
Post Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:30 am
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MartinJQuinn wrote:
PetrolGator wrote:
At the end of the day, I'm not going to trash a "kit" I payed [redacted] for.

Oh, is this something new? :heh:


THREATS WHEN ENRAGED WHEN MASTS BREAK DO NOT MEAN I THROW AWAY MONEY, YA OLD BAT.

:)
Post Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:28 am
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Best available views of Tosa casemates


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:48 am
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PetrolGator wrote:
At the end of the day, I'm not going to trash a "kit" I payed [redacted] for.

Oh, is this something new? :heh:
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:06 am
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Yeah...

The hull appears mostly correct, per Hiraga drawings. Her casemates are... odd, however. I'm unsure if I'll try to correct or live with the hull problems. At the end of the day, I'm not going to trash a "kit" I payed [redacted] for.
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:49 am
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I want to make this nice. That's what I want.


No doubt. However, all the available information is as-designed. So, I'm not sure what I can provide to you regarding speculative fits.
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:00 am
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If I'm being honest? I'm not entirely sure. The resin kit I have I think assumes a speculative WWII fit.

Here's what the "kit" came with, sans the 1926 Nagato bridge I added for giggles:

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I want to make this nice. That's what I want.
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:49 am

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