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Topic review - Calling all IJN Tosa & Amagi Fans!
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Tosa & Amagi Fans!  Reply with quote
Since the battle cruiser design was unrealized, it's impossible to say. Everything is just conjecture.
Post Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:25 pm
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yes ,I'm asking because maybe they would be different after the trial of the fisrt 2 or correcting flaw in the initial design.
Post Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:21 am
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Have you read through the previous page?
Post Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:57 pm
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are the atago and the amagi/akagi similar? (I want to do him by using a fujimi amagi)
Post Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:04 pm
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Aop Aur wrote:
So, would that be the case that the Amagi would have had the same upgrade?

More than likely, yes.
Post Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:03 pm
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You bet. Kaga's as well, though not as crisp.


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:50 am
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Dan K wrote:
Best available views of Tosa casemates


I believe these are in the Japanese language book on the 8-8 plan I have, but in such a high resolution. Thank you! I'm seeing details I would have missed.
Post Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:30 am
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MartinJQuinn wrote:
PetrolGator wrote:
At the end of the day, I'm not going to trash a "kit" I payed [redacted] for.

Oh, is this something new? :heh:


THREATS WHEN ENRAGED WHEN MASTS BREAK DO NOT MEAN I THROW AWAY MONEY, YA OLD BAT.

:)
Post Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:28 am
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Best available views of Tosa casemates


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:48 am
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PetrolGator wrote:
At the end of the day, I'm not going to trash a "kit" I payed [redacted] for.

Oh, is this something new? :heh:
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:06 am
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Yeah...

The hull appears mostly correct, per Hiraga drawings. Her casemates are... odd, however. I'm unsure if I'll try to correct or live with the hull problems. At the end of the day, I'm not going to trash a "kit" I payed [redacted] for.
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:49 am
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I want to make this nice. That's what I want.


No doubt. However, all the available information is as-designed. So, I'm not sure what I can provide to you regarding speculative fits.
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:00 am
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If I'm being honest? I'm not entirely sure. The resin kit I have I think assumes a speculative WWII fit.

Here's what the "kit" came with, sans the 1926 Nagato bridge I added for giggles:

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I want to make this nice. That's what I want.
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:49 am
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There are the Hiraga side and plan views, some specs, not much more. What are you looking for, exactly?
Post Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:45 pm
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I think I'm officially giving up on Fujimi ever releasing their alleged 2011 announced Tosa. I've got an old garage "kit" that's a rough approximation of the vessel. Are there any other decent resources outside of the Japanese-only 8-8 plan book? It has great plan views, but I'd like to learn more about the vessel.
Post Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:59 am
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Hard to say. I can't help but wonder if they might not have opted for the S curved funnel. Though, that was to rectify an existing design on the Nagatos.Yet, they could have also opted to trunk the Nagato/Mutsu funnels and chose not to.
Post Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:51 am
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Thank you Dan and Atma for the input.

Still, which of these two trunked funnels from 2 separate Shapeways vendors would you recommend?

1/700 Amagi Trunked Funnel by Digital Sprue

1/700 Amagi Trunked Funnel by 狗头模型
Post Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:44 am
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Im sure the trunked funnel or large smoke caps/deflectors will be implemented before launching. By the time IJN Takao and IJN Atago will be ready, the problem of smoke interference will be evident by IJN Nagato class units.
Post Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:52 am
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I did my best to research this, but I've come up with nothing to suggest the latter pair would have departed from the original design as built. Modifications down the road during refits, such as the speculative trunked funnels, would have been the most likely point of differentiation.

Speaking of as-designed, I did come across remnants of the original plans, below. I also posted the current kit and gallery list at the start of the thread. A bit sparse at this point.


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:13 am
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Hello Dan and all,

When it comes to the later two members of the Amagi class, namely the cancelled Atago and Takao, if one were to build a kit of either of them, did their designs more resemble the Amagi or Akagi Fujimi 1/700 battlecruiser kit? Yes there are some small differences between the two kits.

All 4 were each built in different yards.
Post Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:19 am

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