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Topic review - Calling all HMS Vanguard (1944-1960) fans
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Timhan wrote:
Thanks, Rick, for those photos. But it begs the question why NOT ONE company has produced a kit of
this very important RN ship. (to my knowledge, anyway).



Hasegawa had a HMS Vanguard 1/450 scale plastic kit which was around for quite a few years

Samek Models does/did a 1/700 scale in resin
Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 9:23 pm
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Timhan wrote:
Thanks, Rick, for those photos. But it begs the question why NOT ONE company has produced a kit of
this very important RN ship. (to my knowledge, anyway).


Too niche. But agree, someone like Combrig is primed to produce this, Im sure theyd sell every single one of them.
Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:44 am
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Thanks, Rick, for those photos. But it begs the question why NOT ONE company has produced a kit of
this very important RN ship. (to my knowledge, anyway).
Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 1:20 am
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I came across several "turned red" transparencies showing USN and RN ships at the Firth of Clyde during September 1952 at the US National Archives on my latest trip. I scanned the images in grayscale since there was no color remaining. I have come across very few images of HMS VANGUARD and frankly these are not perfect, but appear to be the best ones I have scanned.

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There was also this nice view of HMS SWIFTSURE.

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Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 11:28 pm
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Dave Rowe wrote:
Exactly my feelings too. I am also conscious of the costs of the Shapeways parts against the cost of the kit. But it's the only large-ish scale kit available.
Keep watching Shapeways, I have found the twin bofors which is mounted on one of the forward main turrets. The designer needs to rescale it to 1/450 first. That just leaves the single bofors to source.


I can scratch-build a lot of things if I can get decent photos of what they look like, but buying theirs is certainly easier if the budget allows it.
Post Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:07 am
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Exactly my feelings too. I am also conscious of the costs of the Shapeways parts against the cost of the kit. But it's the only large-ish scale kit available.
Keep watching Shapeways, I have found the twin bofors which is mounted on one of the forward main turrets. The designer needs to rescale it to 1/450 first. That just leaves the single bofors to source.
Post Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:00 am
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I know that the kit gets a lot of flak for lack of detail, but I tend to look upon it from a different angle in that all of those smooth plastic surfaces are a blank canvas on which I can work, and either show off my skills and thump my chest... or fail miserably.

I will be purchasing PE and perhaps some of the other things linked above as paychecks allow. :)
Post Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:47 pm
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Same here
Post Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:44 am
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Dave Rowe wrote:
These have been added to Shapeways this morning, a huge improvement over the blobs of plastic in the kit.
https://www.shapeways.com/product/Z5Q6F ... arketplace[


my shopping list grows.
Post Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:05 am
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These have been added to Shapeways this morning, a huge improvement over the blobs of plastic in the kit.
https://www.shapeways.com/product/Z5Q6F ... arketplace[
Post Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:47 am
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Thanks Evert-Jan. That's a start at least.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:36 pm
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I do not but the list of possible floats is (type and box size)

5 3ft 6in x 6 ft 12in
6 3ft 9in x 6ft 6in 13in
7 4ft x 7ft 14in
8 4ft 6in x 7ft 6in 14in
19 5ft x 8ft 14.5in
20 5ft x 10ft 15.5in
14 6ft x 10ft 16in
15 6ft6in x 10ft6in 17in
16 7ft x 12ft 18in
17 8ft x 12ft 19in
18 9ft x 14ft 20in

may be helpful to get the right type from pics?
Post Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:32 am
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Does anybody happen to know the size(s) of Carley Floats Vanguard carried?
Post Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:23 am
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Dave Rowe wrote:
Peter Hall of Atlantic Models produces the p.e. set.
Also, these have just been released in the last week. I plan to get a set of each:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/2WRQG ... d=63990391
https://www.shapeways.com/product/KT3CN ... d=63997201


Those look great!

That kit leaves so much room for added detail it'd be a shame not to use it. I had thought about scratch-building turrets and/or retooling what's there, but those prices are quite reasonable so I might go that route.
Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:28 pm
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Peter Hall of Atlantic Models produces the p.e. set.
Also, these have just been released in the last week. I plan to get a set of each:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/2WRQG ... d=63990391
https://www.shapeways.com/product/KT3CN ... d=63997201
Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:27 pm
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Is anyone aware of a PE set for the Hasegawa 1/450 kit?
Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:58 am
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vanguard uses same guns as the ships I listed but different gun house for more room for gun crew as previous version was too cramped.
Post Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:22 am
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Thanks for the reply, Sean! It really helps. Now I could continue my design! :thumbs_up_1:

Aop
Post Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:27 am
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There is no indication of a new gun barrel being a part of the Vanguard's mounts, so 5.25"/50 remains 5.25"/50. Possibly a larger breach mechanism could have added to overall gun assembly length, but that would be inside the turret; externally there would be no difference in gun length.
Could they have used the larger gunhouse size to mount a longer barreled gun? Say, a 5.25"/60? Possibly, but that would likely have required a lot more changes to the machinery, and it wouldn't still be designated as a Mark of a twin 5.25"/50 gun mount.

- Sean F.
Post Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:34 am
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I still need comfirmation whether the Vanguard guns are identical in overall length to the rest (KGV, Dido, Spartan, etc.) The reason I have this question is the fact that Vanguard had enlarged gun houses, so the length could have been different.

Anyone?

Aop
Post Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:58 pm

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