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Topic review - Calling all HMS Vanguard (1944-1960) fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all HMS Vanguard (1944-1960) fans  Reply with quote
The deck in front of the breakwater has a wooden deck structure. When painting with RN Deck Gray but that's no problem.

:wave_1: Jörg


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:36 am
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By the way, there are some interesting shots of the HMS Vanguard.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/hms-v ... ing-cruise


:wave_1: Jörg
Post Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:22 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all HMS Vanguard (1944-1960) fans  Reply with quote
Maarten Schönfeld wrote:
White Ensign Models provides plans.


Had a look on their website could only find plans for the Nuke Sub Vanguard? Is it no longer listed??

Cheers Bruce
Post Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:25 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all HMS Vanguard (1944-1960) fans  Reply with quote
White Ensign Models provides plans.
Post Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:36 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all HMS Vanguard (1944-1960) fans  Reply with quote
Are there any general arrangements/ hull lines plans available for Vanguard?? She would make a superb subject for a 1/72 RC model....

Cheers Bruce
Post Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:24 pm
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Yeah but they are in square plates.

Not fully correct: the pattern consists of welded on ribs (to provide some traction) these ribs are about one foot long and each one perpendicular to its neighbours. I'll try to make a scan of a plan drawing I have that shows them.

Anyway, on 1/700 scale these ribs are too small to reproduce credibly.
Post Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:41 am
  Post subject:  Re: HMS Vanguard's forcastledeck  Reply with quote
Dick J wrote:
I am not sure that the "planking" on the foredeck of the Samek model is supposed to depict wood. The ship had a pattern in the plating of that area that was visible. Note that on the model, aft of the breakwater the scribed lines are fore-and-aft. Forward of the breakwater, they are angled. Those angles match the angles of the plating pattern. So, just paint the forward area dark gray rather than tan.

Yeah but they are in square plates.
Post Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:23 pm
  Post subject:  Re: HMS Vanguard's forcastledeck  Reply with quote
Maybe the above info is useful for other forum members too. Can this discussion be merged with the CASF topic about HMS Vanguard? Just a thought..... :cool_1: :cool_1:
Post Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:52 pm
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I am not sure that the "planking" on the foredeck of the Samek model is supposed to depict wood. The ship had a pattern in the plating of that area that was visible. Note that on the model, aft of the breakwater the scribed lines are fore-and-aft. Forward of the breakwater, they are angled. Those angles match the angles of the plating pattern. So, just paint the forward area dark gray rather than tan.
Post Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:23 am
  Post subject:  Re: HMS Vanguard's forcastledeck  Reply with quote
The wooden planking on the foredeck is incorrect.
In many photos you can see the steel deck to the first breakwater. Good to see the book "The British battleships of World War II" by Raven / Roberts.


:wave_1: Jörg


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:11 am
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Hi, thank you both for your comments. :wave_1:

I have found also this website ( http://www.hms-vanguard.co.uk/) and the pictures of the museum kit ( http://battleshiphmsvanguard.homestead. ... Model.html) before and it was one reason why i asked this here. :big_grin:

I was surprised that on a German website ( modellmarine.de) and at MW reviews, the Samek model was introduced and there was referring to the wooden planks on the foredeck would be correct.

http://www.modellmarine.de/index.php?op ... m&Itemid=1
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... review.htm

But i have the same opinion like you that this must be a mistake from Samek. On all pictures i have seen, the appearance of the deck before and after the first breakwater is different.

Best regards
Chris
Post Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:37 pm
  Post subject:  Re: HMS Vanguard's forcastledeck  Reply with quote
Just to agree with Sirpaul, the Science Museum of London model of HMS Vanguard has the forcastle without planking... http://battleshiphmsvanguard.homestead. ... Model.html

You might find this site very useful: http://www.hms-vanguard.co.uk/
Post Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:21 pm
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Hello Chris, You are right. The bow down to the breakwater should be metal and painted in dark grey. Alot of resin companies make this mistake of planking all the way up to the nose.
Post Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:40 am
  Post subject:  HMS Vanguard's forcastledeck  Reply with quote
Hello,

I started with the building of the Samek HMS Vanguard kit.It is a real good kit !! I have got it direct from Czechia for a good price :woo_hoo:
But after i have compare the kit with several pictures of the real ship and some kits from the MW gallery i wondered about the wood planking at the area of the forcastle.
On pictures of the real ship and on most of the kits it seems to be a steel deck and not a wood deck up to the first breakwater. At least it's different and darker colored.

Who knows more about this ?

Best regards
Chris
Post Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:11 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all HMS Vanguard (1944-1960) fans  Reply with quote
Quick question, the 1/700 Samek is an easy build for a moderate experienced modeler with resin ? Thank in advance.
Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:17 pm
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My wife Pat and I used to run the Wolf Cub Pack, The 49th Portsmouth, H.M.S. Bellerophon's Own'.
This was sponsored by the Reserve Fleet and we used to go on board H.M.S. Vanguard for our monthly church parades in the ship's chapel. Full crew turned out and lined the ship, when we boarded and my wife received many 'wolf whistles', as she wore a rather tight green jumper as part of her uniform as 'Arkela'.

Following the church service, we had guided tours of the ship, followed by a sumptuos spread in the Ward Room. Needless to say, we had plenty of applicants to join the Pack and at one point, there were 48!

If any former crew mambers remember these church parades, during the 1950's, my wife and Iwould love to heasr from you. E-mail:- mike.olive@ntlworld.com
Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:30 am
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As a heads up, B&D barrels now have a set of barrels for the main armament avalible.
Post Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:38 am
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I just saw the huge model of Vanguard in the London Science Museum yesterday. It's a magnificent model built by the actual shipbuilders of HMS Vanguard, and has its own website: http://battleshiphmsvanguard.homestead.com/ScienceModel.html

She really was an exceptionally fine looking ship, great lines with a really busy look to her, and the twin funnel arrangement gave her a bit of a complimentary Iowa look, as the main contemporaries of the time.

Image

Nothing to do with models we can build, but it is very inspiring and worth a visit if in the Kensington area of London, as well as all the other original models built by actual shipbuilders and donated to the museum around the time they were built.
Post Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:17 pm
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Guys,
I don't know if this helps, but Hasegawa have just announced a re-release of their old 1/450 HMS Vanguard kit.
Bottom of page -

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/ima ... PART1A.pdf

The kit dates back to the late sixties-early seventies. It was tooled up as a request by Rovex to appear in the Frog range and was on the Catalogue from 1970 through to '73, as well as Hasegawa's own boxings. I quote from the Lines/Hellstrom book: 'It did unfortunately contain a number of grave mistakes'.

But it's the only large scale plastic game in town at the moment.
Post Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:28 pm
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I'd take a model from just about any company. Particularly Dragon or Admirality Model Works. To bad she placed 27th in the Dragon survey.
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