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Topic review - Calling all HMS Vanguard (1944-1960) fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all HMS Vanguard (1944-1960) fans  Reply with quote
vanguard uses same guns as the ships I listed but different gun house for more room for gun crew as previous version was too cramped.
Post Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:22 am
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Thanks for the reply, Sean! It really helps. Now I could continue my design! :thumbs_up_1:

Aop
Post Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:27 am
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There is no indication of a new gun barrel being a part of the Vanguard's mounts, so 5.25"/50 remains 5.25"/50. Possibly a larger breach mechanism could have added to overall gun assembly length, but that would be inside the turret; externally there would be no difference in gun length.
Could they have used the larger gunhouse size to mount a longer barreled gun? Say, a 5.25"/60? Possibly, but that would likely have required a lot more changes to the machinery, and it wouldn't still be designated as a Mark of a twin 5.25"/50 gun mount.

- Sean F.
Post Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:34 am
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I still need comfirmation whether the Vanguard guns are identical in overall length to the rest (KGV, Dido, Spartan, etc.) The reason I have this question is the fact that Vanguard had enlarged gun houses, so the length could have been different.

Anyone?

Aop
Post Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:58 pm
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Ship Class Used On
King George V, Dido, Spartan, Lion and Vanguard Classes
The prototype was installed on Iron Duke in 1939
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_525-50_mk1.php
Post Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:13 am
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Hi Rod,
Thanks for the links. I have seen all of them. Navweaps says the overall gun length is 6.998 metres. It did not mention any differences between Vanguard gun version and the rest (KGV, Dido), so would it be possible that they are all of the same length? Vanguard still has enlarged gun houses...

Aop
Post Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:22 am
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Aop Aur wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for more photos of the Vanguard 5.25" gun, especially close-ups. So far there are not many on the internet and all are of low res. If anyone got some better ones, please PM me or send them to the email aopaurshipmodels at gmail dot com

Thanks in advance!
Aop



G'day Aop

Have you seen these?

http://www.zhanliejian.com/navweaps/WNB ... 1_pics.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/201504070732 ... teria=5.25

Plus some detailed info

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_525-50_mk1.php

HTH

Rod
Post Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:46 am
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Any thoughts?

Aop
Post Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:00 pm
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Well, from the butt-end of the gun house to the tip of the barrel...

Thanks!
Aop
Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:01 am
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just the gun, the mount or combination of both?
Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:46 am
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Hi all,
Could anyone help me with the Vanguard 5.25 inch gun dimension info? O/A length of the gun is all needed...

Thanks,
Aop
Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:00 am
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Hi all,
I am looking for more photos of the Vanguard 5.25" gun, especially close-ups. So far there are not many on the internet and all are of low res. If anyone got some better ones, please PM me or send them to the email aopaurshipmodels at gmail dot com

Thanks in advance!
Aop
Post Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:55 am
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DavidP wrote:
how different are they from the kgv & dido classes?

Very different: they are considerably larger and hexagonal in planform (instead of round/oval).
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Post Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:58 am
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how different are they from the kgv & dido classes?
Post Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:16 pm
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Hello,
I need to gather some more references and drawings of Vanguard's 5.25 inch gun and turret. If anyone could send me copies or scans of the drawings, I would be appreciated. They will be used to design a 3D model of the turret and uploaded on Shapeways. :wave_1:

Thanks,
Aop
Post Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:20 am
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The deck in front of the breakwater has a wooden deck structure. When painting with RN Deck Gray but that's no problem.

:wave_1: Jörg


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:36 am
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By the way, there are some interesting shots of the HMS Vanguard.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/hms-v ... ing-cruise


:wave_1: Jörg
Post Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:22 pm
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Maarten Schönfeld wrote:
White Ensign Models provides plans.


Had a look on their website could only find plans for the Nuke Sub Vanguard? Is it no longer listed??

Cheers Bruce
Post Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:25 am
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White Ensign Models provides plans.
Post Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:36 am
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Are there any general arrangements/ hull lines plans available for Vanguard?? She would make a superb subject for a 1/72 RC model....

Cheers Bruce
Post Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:24 pm

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