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Topic review - Calling all USS Pennsylvania BB-38 Fans
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The booklet of general plans for the Pennsylvania in 1945 shows Mk-21 antenna on top of the director cabin on top of the fore tripod mast. Does anyone kno3 what Mk-21 antenna does and/or have a good picture of it?

Thanks
Post Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:32 am
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Tracy White wrote:
If you have Stillwell's Arizona book look at the bottom right of the photo on page 168.


Thanks Tracy. I would never have found it and even if I did I would not have realized what I was looking at.

Stillwell's book is a great reference. I was advised to get it from a well-known member over on FineScale.
Worth every penny!

Nino
Post Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:39 am
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No, unfortunately I do not.
Post Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:54 pm
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If you have Stillwell's Arizona book look at the bottom right of the photo on page 168.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:28 pm
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something like this tho only partial view? http://navsource.org/archives/01/038/013842b.jpg
Post Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:46 pm
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No, I would think it is the same cars that were used pre-war on other old battleships with stern catapults.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:16 pm
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I don't know off the top of my head, but that sounds an awful lot like the same height as the pre-war units. Do you know that they were different?
Post Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:04 pm
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Does anyone know of a good photo of the aircraft storage car used by the Pennsylvania during late war?

The car seems to be a fairly large thing that keeps the aircraft high above the deck level, at the same height as if the aircraft was sitting in the catapult.

This is different from the storage cars used on new battleships, which is small dolly like thing that is the same size as the catapult launch cars which carries the aircraft when it is being launched from the catapult.

Thanks in advance.
Post Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:08 pm
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DavidP wrote:


Fair enough!
Post Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:28 pm
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harristotle wrote:
I've finished the CAD model for my Pennsy hull and succesffully printed it. I'm working on the details now. As I get ready to actually build the ship up I'm trying to plan ahead for painting and detailing. I want to do a 1945 build of her, but I hate the blue decks. If I do a post war, pre-nuke test build would it be reasonable to assume they had stopped maintaining the painted deck and wood was starting to show through, or do I need to suck it up and do the blue deck?

Thanks!


She was extensively stripped of half of her 5" battery and almost all of her light AA battery in her pre-nuke guise. She also lost her new Seahawks and had a couple of cast off King Fishers taking their place. If you want to be accurate you would end up with a very bare looking ship.
Post Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:32 pm
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this is March 1946 of her. http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/013809.jpg
June 1946. http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/013863.jpg
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/38a.htm
so suck it up & paint her for 1945, early 1946.
Post Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:44 pm
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I've finished the CAD model for my Pennsy hull and succesffully printed it. I'm working on the details now. As I get ready to actually build the ship up I'm trying to plan ahead for painting and detailing. I want to do a 1945 build of her, but I hate the blue decks. If I do a post war, pre-nuke test build would it be reasonable to assume they had stopped maintaining the painted deck and wood was starting to show through, or do I need to suck it up and do the blue deck?

Thanks!
Post Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:24 pm
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DavidP wrote:
i got the same plans & they are not accurate. 14" barbettes are in the wrong positions & some of the gun deck dimensions are wrong.



Yes. But the new deck will have to fit the locations of the barbette and break of f’c’stle on the trumpeter Kit. I am not sure the trumpeter Kit is very accurate either. Certainly the profile and contour of the rear ended of torpedo blister is inaccurate, and trumpeter deleted the part of Pennsylvania’s armor belt that protected the steering gear compartment.

I intend to use trumpeter’s original boat deck for locational point reference, so the new deck will fit correctly. Then use the dry dock drawings for the new shape. It seems boat deck’s main locating points didn’t change. So the locations of the new 5”/38 twins were right at the old 5”/51 singles. So adjusting the dimensions in the FDD plans to match those will at least ensure points on the new deck is located correctly relative to the hull.
Post Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:30 pm
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i got the same plans & they are not accurate. 14" barbettes are in the wrong positions & some of the gun deck dimensions are wrong.
Post Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:47 pm
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I am using floating dry dock's 1/192 drawings as basis, plus photographic reference.
Post Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:13 pm
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what are you using for plans to do that as I finished my gun deck?
Post Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:24 pm
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DavidP wrote:
chuck, I presume you are also using Model Monkey's gun deck & forward superstructure for your model?


I intend to use Model Monkey's forward and rear superstructure, But I will scratch build the gun deck (former boat deck)
Post Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:15 pm
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chuck, I presume you are also using Model Monkey's gun deck & forward superstructure for your model?
Post Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:33 pm
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Yes, the conning tower on the Pennsylvania was removed around late 1942, at the same time as the removal of her main mast and replacement of mixed single purpose 5" battery with a uniformed dual purpose one. I am using a combination of Model Monkey's post 1942 superstructure to model her in mid 1945, which leaves Trumpeter's original superstructure totally unused. So I am building that up separately to display on the side.
Post Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:01 am
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BB62vet wrote:
Chuck,

I seriously doubt that there were any changes made to these entrances in her rebuild following Pearl Harbor's damage.

Hope this helps!


Well, not until they removed the entire armored conn, that is...

- Sean F.
Post Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:16 pm

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