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Topic review - Calling all HMS King George V class (WWII) fans
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so those panels are covers for the vent holes. thank you for the information. Now it's time to figure out the exact pattern of these covers for 1945 :D
it will be fun, but i have time...here the lockdown is officially prolonged until the 13 of april...at least.
Post Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:09 am
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There is a pattern of vent holes in the rear 7" armour.

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:58 am
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Hi all.

i'm starting to detail and correct the turrets of my 1945 KGV rendition.
I already corrected the B turret roof as per pictures and plans, now it's time to start working on the rear o the turrets.

lot of doubts and questions here..

There is a number of...hatches? vent covers? whatever? on the rear side of the turrets, but plans are not according to pictures and pictures are not according to...other pictures.

Both the plans from Kagero publishing and profile morskie shows an arrangement of these "things" that is fairly different from what Eduard provides in the PE set, and this part differs in size and shape from what can be seen in pictures.
All the following pictures are taken from the IWM site, and the attribution to kgv is almost certain.

In the first picture you can see these "hatches" with a sort of round handle-bump on the upper part. they seem to be fairy thin. (1941 circa)
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as better shown in this picture (a turret? 1941 circa)
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in this picture they seem to be somewhat different
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fourth picture: it appears that the hatces now seems to be like "rails". (1943?)
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the next pictures are from 1944 royal family visit, as the two video stills.
disaster here.

in the picture with Princess Elizabeht there is clearly a rail and not a hatch, both in the lower and upper rows.
in the video stills (first one Y turret?) there is the evidence of a prominent...vent cover? hatch? tobacco vending machine? alien egg nest? that is visible even on the rear of the B turret in the second video still (link to the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtpExntbt1o )

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are there any better images or any hint about this detail?
many thanks in advance
Post Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:13 am
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Thanks for the input Tim.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:53 am
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Try contacting Dr. GH (Harry) Bennett at University of Plymouth - he cites the Bucknill Committee reports in his book The Royal Navy in the Age of Austerity, so might have copies of it.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:31 pm
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Gents, I have no doubt asked this question before but...................................does anyone have or know where one can get (or - wishful thinking - view on-line) a copy of the Bucknell Report (into PoW's loss)?; other than going in person to the archives in the UK (which of course besides me not living in the UK, I wouldn't be going there now under current 'circumstances' even if I could).

PS. Hoping all are staying safe (or as safe as can be) in these troubled times!
Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:22 am
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You are welcome, happy modelling. From Ireland!
Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:34 pm
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thank you very much!

cheers from italy!
Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:53 pm
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Stefano Salesi wrote:
hi all. i'm working on a tamiya 1/350 kgV with a mixture of accessories (pontos, eduard and so on) to reproduce the ship in her 1945 fit.
I'm using as per reference Chiesnau, Raven, Koszela and various pictures and articles found on the net, but i was unable to find the exact type of searchligt that the ship carried.
was them 40 inch? 44? i would like to use the north star version of royal navy searchlight, but i can't find the right type to order. i searched this thread with no luck....any help will be more than appreciated :D



According to R.A. Burt's British Battleships 1919-1945:
HMS King George V had 6 x 44 inch and 2 x 24 inch signalling searchlights upon completion. This was reduced to 4 x 44 inch and 2 x 24 inch signalling by 1945.
Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:28 am
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hi all. i'm working on a tamiya 1/350 kgV with a mixture of accessories (pontos, eduard and so on) to reproduce the ship in her 1945 fit.
I'm using as per reference Chiesnau, Raven, Koszela and various pictures and articles found on the net, but i was unable to find the exact type of searchligt that the ship carried.
was them 40 inch? 44? i would like to use the north star version of royal navy searchlight, but i can't find the right type to order. i searched this thread with no luck....any help will be more than appreciated :D
Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:06 pm
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At the time of her sinking, had many of the hull potholes on the Prince of Wales been plated over? The different pictures I have seen are somewhat confusing. Thanks.
Walt Haynes
Post Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:50 pm
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I am making a model of the Prince of Wales battleship and I have seen some of the boats (45ft) painted blue on some models. Is this correct? Or should all boats be painted in basic grey?
Post Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:47 am
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G’day all, I’ve found a detail in the KGV class that I’d like some clarification on. The images are of HMS KGV and HMS PoW early in their careers. I’m curious about the circled areas. As you can see they appear to be open areas that have a bulkhead facing outward with carley floats stored on top. I think they might be timber storage areas. There are two of these on each ship. The Tamyia 1/350 scale kit and Profile Morski plans that I have represent these as solid blocks. The images say otherwise. Does anyone have more detail on these?

TIA
David Gatt.


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:48 pm
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PRINCE OF WALES was completed with a single RDF (later called "radar") Type 281 set. It had two aerials, one (at the after masthead) for transmission and another (at the foremasthead) for reception. Type 279 as fitted in KING GEORGE V had a similar arrangement; the other three ships were completed with Type 281 as in POW. The surviing ship later had the 279 or 281 replaced by Type 281B (which had only one aerial) before deploying to the Far East (by that time it was possible to combine transmit and receive functions in one aerial - on the mainmast in these ships), thus freeing the foremasthead for Type 293.
Post Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:24 am
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Dick! Thanks for the original document! Now I'm a bit uncertain whether a second 281 type radar was installed on the aft mast during the refit? It is clearly seen on the pictures of the ship during the Atlantic Carter meeting.

I may wrote my thoughts unclearly: I want to show my ship under the period of the painting of the hull like you can see on the abovementioned picture. I know the that shows a different ship, I only wanted to emphasise the working process on the hull.

Áron
Post Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:13 am
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Maarten Schönfeld wrote:
aaron_at_midway wrote:
Hello everyone!

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I want to show the ship half repainted to the famous camouflage pattern, something like seen on these picture:

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Áron


You can tell me much, but this is not PoW for sure...

Definitely not PoW, it is the USS Utah, and the ship is not being painted into camo but peacetime gray above the boot topping. (Routine drydocking and repainting)
Post Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:56 pm
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aaron_at_midway wrote:
Hello everyone!

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I want to show the ship half repainted to the famous camouflage pattern, something like seen on these picture:

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Áron


You can tell me much, but this is not PoW for sure...
Post Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:50 am
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From the horse's mouth:


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:53 pm
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Here I am again with a question about the PoW radars!

Wikipedia said (yeah, yeah I know, never ever use it) that there were Type 279 radars on the masts. I'm not sure but I think saw a picture of the ship on this topic with this information as well.

But according to this picure:

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PoW had type 281 radars instead of 279.

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Could somebody help me please?

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Flyhawk also gave 281 PE radars.

Thanks

Áron
Post Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:29 pm
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Ahh, yes, I really hate to paint the little boats, I already decided to skip them this time. Don't know why I have this revulsion because the assembling and upgrading of the boats are delightsome but the paintwork... just not my cup of tea. And I also want to show the damage on the boat deck (is it the proper name?) and on the aft funnel.
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