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Topic review - Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC  Reply with quote
well done!
Post Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:44 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC  Reply with quote
Hello everybody, I thought you might like to see my model of HMS Lion which I completed recently.

I built it from the Combrig kit but made additions to give the ship its appearance at the end of the first world war.

4 inch AA guns and the Sopwith aircraft are from AJM, the secondary barrels are master 6 inch (slightly inaccurate I know, but they are about the right size!) the turrets were designed by my good friends in the IPMS battleship special interest group, Nigel and Martyn. The bridge additions were made with plastic and brass rod and aluminium sheet and the Carley floats are from L’Arsenal and Micro master. The Searchlight Towers came from sprue runners and also some leftover Tamiya jagdpanther exhaust covers - never throw anything away!

I hope you like it.
Tally Ho!
Jonathan


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:41 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC  Reply with quote
Nice pic here of Tiger in heavy weather.


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:41 am
  Post subject:  Re: HMS Lion  Reply with quote
Difficult to know without colour photography - and there's nothing in the CASF thread (Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC fans - viewtopic.php?f=47&t=49948). Given that searchlights and other fittings were present, I'd expect there to be corticene there.
Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:19 pm
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quick question to all the WW1 battlecruiser fans - does anybody know what colour the deck above the rear 4" mountings was on HMS Lion? Im talking about the walkway that surrounds the aft boat deck, just aft of the mainmanst? I have a plan that shows it to be corticene, but I suspect it may have been just painted metal - if so, what colour?
Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:21 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC  Reply with quote
Added a list of available kits and gallery entries to the first page
Post Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:59 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Hms Tiger Battlrcruiser 1 or 2 rudders?  Reply with quote
Photo of the Tiger just before her launch clearly shows she had twin elliptical shaped rudders.

Also, I believe all British battlecruisers up to and including tiger, as well as the Kongo, had twin elliptical rudders. Renown was the first British battlecruiser to adopt a single centerline rudder.
Post Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:40 am
  Post subject:  2 rudders I think!!!  Reply with quote
Most of the RN ships of that era had 2. Beryer & Burt both say 2.
HTH,
David
Post Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:31 am
  Post subject:  Re: Hms Tiger Battlrcruiser 1 or 2 rudders?  Reply with quote
EDIT: seems many say 2!
Post Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:57 am
  Post subject:  Hms Tiger Battlrcruiser 1 or 2 rudders?  Reply with quote
Hi guys
Can anyone please tell me if Hms Tiger battlecruiser had one or two rudders.
The combrig 1/350 kit supplies one but I have seen photosof the ship in dock clearly showing two rudders.
Help !!!!!!!
Colin Swager
New Zealand
Colin.swager@gmail.com
Post Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:48 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC  Reply with quote
Brilliant!
Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:36 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC  Reply with quote
Tiger is now all but finished. There is still some, any probably always be little bits and pieces that can be added, but she has now moved from the workshop to the house.
A recent model boats event was held on one of New Zealands few (1 or 2) purpose built model boat ponds in the town of Hawera, and Tiger caused quite a stir. video of her at the event can be viewed on YouTube at location

https://youtu.be/KkXEyLo1RKM

Performance of the model is great, speed more than enough, turning is good and she is very predictable. The smoke system may be upgraded to generate more, we'll see.


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:18 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC  Reply with quote
My friend Joel (http://www.boathousecollectables.co.nz/) hosts monthly "Social Modelling Days" and I took Tiger again this month. These photos were among others taken by a fellow attendee.


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File comment: A general view showing the busy midships section including the boats.
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Post Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:18 pm
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It is time I posted an update! Tiger has progressed as much as expected, at some 800 hours work, the model is nearly complete, it looks complete on the water, but searchlights, and some deck lockers etc still needed. I also have no idea of the appearance of the four coaling winches. Navigation lights are in and tested, smoke system very successful and much detail from the book of photos added.


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File comment: A quarter bow view which show the overall appearance of the model.
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File comment: Broadside view which if you can blow it up (shift/control/+) will show you the detail (control/0 restores size to original)
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:10 pm
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Tiger had her first public outing at the annual "Armistice in Cambridge" weekend. I have had a few minor hiccups; turret drives are not working as expected, and the smoke system quit during the weekend. These things can be resolved. The event is based on Lake Karapiro which is the national Rowing venue on the Waikato River. The pictures are grabbed from movie so not the greatest quality.

Progress has been slow with too much time spent on the animations, I have logged some 600 hours now with probably 3-400 to go


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File comment: Heading out into Lake Karapiro, she handled swells from Navy RIBs quite well
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File comment: A drive by shot. The model is a little tender, probably due to the weight of the funnels, but handles pretty much as expected. Scale rudders and the turning circle is about 15metres.
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Post Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:07 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC  Reply with quote
A couple of progress pictures, A local model shop was having a "Social Modelling Day" and I took the ship along.


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File comment: This pic shows the model on a converted trolley. This is how I propose transporting to the pond, and it lies on this in the wagon as well
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File comment: This one shows where most of the more recent work has gone. The searchlight towers are on, most of the bridge work is done, You may be able to see the (unpainted) railings on each deck level up to the Compass Platform
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File comment: This angle shows among other things, the planked deck, that alone took some 30 hours. I used Basswood (Evergreen product) and stripped it by hand.

The small hull is of the tug 'Flying Eagle" at the same scale as Tiger.

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:20 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC  Reply with quote
Progress again, after the usual busy season at work, I am back into it. The mast standing rigging is done, some wiring in place, port 6" done, deck planking underway. Also done is the handrail along the port side of the fo'c'sle deck (between the 6" casemates)

I have the R/C system and programmable servos for the turrets. Theses can be slowed to as little as 4% speed and throw increased to 160 degrees. Gearing will do the rest.

The model is now around to bring the starboard detail up to the same stage.


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File comment: The model out of the workshop to be turned for access to the other side.
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File comment: Somewhat cluttered pic showing the mast with standing rigging complete. In the interests of pondside durability, the rigging is in .040 fishing nylon which recovers from a knock.
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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:33 am
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In the many pictures in the book "The Lost Photographs" the lamps can be seen rotated as a unit and individually on the mounting. In one photo the shells are laid right back, ie pointing straight up, possibly for fitting of the lamps (?) Unfortunately they are very small in the photos and detail of the mountings is indistinct, especially as in many they are covered with a tarpaulin.

Interestingly, all the other ships covered in the book have 36inch single lamps, not the 24inch twins.


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File comment: This shot gives the general appearance of the mounting, another shows the base to be a cone and others show ather "bits" None show what exactly is between the lamps. I agree with your description of the 'boxes' Note also here that the shells are empty, no lamps fitted as yet.
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:21 am
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mauricejob wrote:
I measure the funnels mid height and to the outer edge of the (somewhat thick) printed line, as follows:
No 1; 2-7/32 or 57.6mm
No 2; 2-1/32 or 51.7mm
No 3; 2-1/16 or 52.8mm

At scale of 1:96 and allowing for distortions due to re-copying, that makes the funnels
No1; 17'9" or 5.529m
No 2; 16'3" or 4.963m
No 3; 16'6" or 5.068m
I make an assumption as to realistic dimensions (why would they have built a major item, such as a funnel, to a dimension of inches), it could be argued the funnels actually were in round feet; 18feet and 16 feet in diameter

Hope that helps


Yes, thats great! Thanks, I was just curious. You may be right about them specifying them in feet ... and I'd think No2 & 3 funnels are the same diameter, the difference is down to the width of the draughtmans pencil. :smallsmile:

Let me correct something about the s/lights, the 'rectangular shapes' (vents?) I said were top and bottom are only on the top of the lamps. And could one S/light point fore while the other points to the side? I have seen it but can't find the image again. But I'm best showing you one of the clearest photographs I have of this twin 24in unit we seek... this is Neptune:


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:43 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Lion-class, QM, & Tiger ("Splendid Cat") BC  Reply with quote
I measure the funnels mid height and to the outer edge of the (somewhat thick) printed line, as follows:
No 1; 2-7/32 or 57.6mm
No 2; 2-1/32 or 51.7mm
No 3; 2-1/16 or 52.8mm

At scale of 1:96 and allowing for distortions due to re-copying, that makes the funnels
No1; 17'9" or 5.529m
No 2; 16'3" or 4.963m
No 3; 16'6" or 5.068m
I make an assumption as to realistic dimensions (why would they have built a major item, such as a funnel, to a dimension of inches), it could be argued the funnels actually were in round feet; 18feet and 16 feet in diameter

Hope that helps
Post Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:15 pm

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