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Topic review - Calling all IJN Ise & Hyuga fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Ise & Hyuga fans  Reply with quote
Has anyone completed or done any work on the Samek 1/700 Ise 1917 kit or seen any reviews of this kit?


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Post Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:41 am
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This bulge appears to be pretty flat on top, while many other navies had curved bulges. The flat top shape greatly reduces manufacturing cost. That is the most likely reason for the shape.
Post Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:32 am
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The added torpedo bulge is all metal plating.


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Post Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:33 pm
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Captain Morgan wrote:
Nopefield wrote:
I noticed that Hyuga doesn't have sloped side deck like Ise (see images). I wonder what floor material used for that extended side? Is it a wood or metal? Does it changes in her hybrid form?


This is as we say comparing apples to oranges. You have Hyuga before rebuild compared to Ise after rebuild.

You have highlighted the hull bulge added during the rebuild from 1934-1936.


Ah, sorry. I don't know that hull bulge is added later after construction. The reason i'm comparing that is because i see some modeler extends the bulge into simple straight deck, and i tried to find pictures and forget that there is refit on 1934. Can't find good picture on Hyuga in her BB/CV form but here a good picture showing the extended bulge on Ise

http://tsushima.su/uploads/photoarhiv/s ... oto/06.jpg

I also found this has been confirmed by Atma in here. I assume Hyuga got similar treatment.

So, the question remains, is the floor extended using wood or metal?
Post Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:00 pm
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Nopefield wrote:
I noticed that Hyuga doesn't have sloped side deck like Ise (see images). I wonder what floor material used for that extended side? Is it a wood or metal? Does it changes in her hybrid form?


This is as we say comparing apples to oranges. You have Hyuga before rebuild compared to Ise after rebuild.

You have highlighted the hull bulge added during the rebuild from 1934-1936.
Post Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:38 am
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I noticed that Hyuga doesn't have sloped side deck like Ise (see images). I wonder what floor material used for that extended side? Is it a wood or metal? Does it changes in her hybrid form?


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Post Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:11 am
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I agree that the Tam Tam model is a fantastic reference.
Post Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:50 am
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Thanks Dan, unfortunately i can't find any model magazine/books in my country and it's really hard to import something. If only it has digital version :(

For now i try to imitate TamTam's IJN Ise 1/100 (http://blog.livedoor.jp/nichirou/archives/54044794.html) while compiling all info from this amazing thread, especially the difference between Ise and Hyuga.
Post Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:54 am
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I can't help you out on this; perhaps someone else can chime in.

Model Art Ship Modeling Special # 53 (Autumn 2014) has a few pages of a comparative build between a Hasegawa and a Fujimi kit. With improvements and correction, though the pics are small.
Post Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:00 am
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Hi, i'm planning to build Hasegawa 1/700 Hyuga in his BBCV conviguration. I've read there are many inaccuracy within the kit, but is there any major/obvious error in the kit? Sadly i've already bought the kit long time ago (it's rather impulsive buying, no time for research while on vacation in japan lol)
Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:45 pm
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Yes, though portions of the upper row of portholes, particularly around the secondary casemates may have been left unsealed. They were there on trials in August, 1943, once they were converted to BBCVs.

You have two choices. You could use styrene strip, with a punch to create round discs, or you could go the PE route. Two examples of PE versions:

Fivestar: http://www.fstarmodel.com/en/pd.jsp?id= ... _304_65_-1

Rainbow: http://www.rainbowmodel.com/proshow.asp?proid=42
Post Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:52 am
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Would the hull scuttles on Fujimi's Ise (1/350) need to be blanked off if i'm building her 'as lost'?

If so, What's the best way to do it?
Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:27 pm
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I note 1/350 Hyuga is now released as battleship-carrier, with general improvements. Atma, are there any rumours of a 1/350 all-gun version from your little birds?

Thanks for mentioning the 1/700 Hyuga 1941 Dan... might have to get it as a 'study model'. Rear superstructure looks well done in the kit.
Post Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:54 pm
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in modelart vessel model special 53 (autumn 2014) it is a article with beautiful foto of a model 1/700 of the bb ise with all rigging they are also foto of a model of hyuga (1/700) with rigging
i think not difficult to find at reasonable price.
ciao peppe
Post Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:20 am
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Thank you, the Gakken book is equally hard to find!
Post Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:52 pm
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warship 2009 have not, i find this in a russian book but in the gakken book onthe class they are lot of fotot from a very detailed model
ciao peppe


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:05 pm
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Does anyone have the rigging plans for Ise post '44?

I believe Warship 2009 has them but at $300 it's a bit steep.
Post Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:32 am
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Notice Fujmi offers the correct turret roof for IJN Ise and IJN Hyuga.
Post Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:12 am
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1/700 1941 Hyuga (F) in the box look, from the Omani website. Click on the pictures to enlarge:

http://mokehana.blog34.fc2.com/blog-entry-854.html
Post Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:56 am
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Thank you for the info, and the tip GMG. I hadn't considered putting them as the central turrets.
I'm beginning to play around with CAD design and might be able to model the rear superstructure for a conversion.
Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 3:30 am

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