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[quote="MartinJQuinn"]The one picture I saw of the wreck shows the same camouflage pattern that's on the Flyhawk [url=http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/dkm/bb/Scharnhorst-700-fh/FlyhawkScharnhorstInstructions009.jpg][b][u]instructions[/u][/b][/url].

I seem to recall reading that the blues have been discounted and that the most likely colors were the usual KM paints.[/quote]

FH doesnt have the black color on the bow, makes it grey.
FH lacks white contour lines in may areas - that seems off.
FH bow is not white, but also grey - against the norther camouflage thing they had.

I dunno yet, but to me FH right off the bat seems off on few key areas... :scratch:

The one picture I saw of the wreck shows the same camouflage pattern that's on the Flyhawk [url=http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/dkm/bb/Scharnhorst-700-fh/FlyhawkScharnhorstInstructions009.jpg][b][u]instructions[/u][/b][/url].

I seem to recall reading that the blues have been discounted and that the most likely colors were the usual KM paints.

What is the most recent opinion on the final camouflage Scharnhorst had regarding the light blue color (bow, top of structures, as per Leon and Asmussen 1942-45 Camouflage book).

Is this now debunked? Is it viewed as most accurate? What has been the most recent view on how to paint her as sunk?

Starting Flyhawk's 1:700 edition with full PE... Wanna get the stupid questions out of the way first. This camouflage is the first one. :)

[quote="DavidK"][quote="seaphoto"]Does anyone know of a source for a large scale graphic of the Gneisenau's crest? All I can find on the Internet are relatively small ones, less than 400 pixels. Purchasing an existing sticker or other graphic is also an option. I would like to scan it and use it as part of my display for my model of the Gneisenau. Thanks for any leads!

Kurt[/quote]

I can offer this. A bit pixelated when blown up, but it's the best I've got.

Dave[/quote]

Thank you Dave, very kind of you. Of course, if even higher resolution images exist, they would be most welcome as well.

Kurt

[quote="seaphoto"]Does anyone know of a source for a large scale graphic of the Gneisenau's crest? All I can find on the Internet are relatively small ones, less than 400 pixels. Purchasing an existing sticker or other graphic is also an option. I would like to scan it and use it as part of my display for my model of the Gneisenau. Thanks for any leads!

Kurt[/quote]

I can offer this. A bit pixelated when blown up, but it's the best I've got.

Dave

Does anyone know of a source for a large scale graphic of the Gneisenau's crest? All I can find on the Internet are relatively small ones, less than 400 pixels. Purchasing an existing sticker or other graphic is also an option. I would like to scan it and use it as part of my display for my model of the Gneisenau. Thanks for any leads!

Kurt

Out of curiosity, is there any difference between the Trumpeter 1/350 1940 and 1941 kits? I looked through the instructions posted on-line and didn't catch any differences beyond the painting guides and even the 1941 version had a 1940 era paint scheme.

Thanks,
Matt

[quote="DavidP"]maybe attachable rods to clean the bores of the 11" guns? a gun cleaning kit.[/quote]

I think the larger horizontally placed cylinders contain cleaning equipment for the 28cm main guns. These are visible in other photos also which makes sense.

WAG....they may be tubes to hold spare 20mm barrels for the extra AA fitted for the Dash?

maybe attachable rods to clean the bores of the 11" guns? a gun cleaning kit.

Has anyone any knowledge as to what are the vertical tubes or pieces as circled in red in the photo ([i]well screenshot from Youtube)[/i] of Scharnhorst's Anton and Bruno Turrets?

They only seem to be there for Operation Cerberus, The Channel Dash in 1942. They are not visible in photos from Operation Berlin in 1941 nor in photos from late 1942 or 1943 when Scharnhorst worked up in the Baltic and transferred to Norway.

Could they be tubes for spare barrels for the extra 20mm Flakvierlings that were embarked for Operation Cerberus? It is hard to find any clearer photo of them than the screenshot I have shown.

Im begining with a 1: 700 scharnhorts battleship proyect but I need some pics for take an idea.
anyone that have some color pics. thanks in advance.

[quote="ModelMonkey"]What? Americans make spelling or grammatical mistakes? That's unpossible! :cool_2:[/quote]
je am français ,cant spoke english :lol_3:

[quote="ModelMonkey"]What? Americans make spelling or grammatical mistakes? That's unpossible! :cool_2:[/quote] :rolf_3:

So do Yurpians! me make big gramar and speling errurs!

What? Americans make spelling or grammatical mistakes? That's unpossible! :cool_2:

[quote="ModelMonkey"][quote="wefalck"]BTW, could the administrators please correct the title ? It should be 'Kriegsmarine' not 'Kreigsmarine' (I know it is the same pronounciation problem in English as with 'diesel-engine' - but it just looks awful). Thanks ...[/quote]

Done![/quote]
Thanks, Steve! The title has been there for many years but I was afraid to mention it... I have been fighting the 'Marinefleiger' spelling for years but have given up trying to teach Americans the difference between 'ei' and 'ie' in German...

:thumbs_up_1:

[quote="wefalck"]BTW, could the administrators please correct the title ? It should be 'Kriegsmarine' not 'Kreigsmarine' (I know it is the same pronounciation problem in English as with 'diesel-engine' - but it just looks awful). Thanks ...[/quote]

Done!

BTW, could the administrators please correct the title ? It should be 'Kriegsmarine' not 'Kreigsmarine' (I know it is the same pronounciation problem in English as with 'diesel-engine' - but it just looks awful). Thanks ...

Exactly, I was thinking about the new Flyhawk Scharnhorst 1943. I am not a big fan of releasing the same model at different time periods. I want a Scharnhorst April 1940 (Flyhawk might release one) but I know I will by the 1943. And it would suck if the differences are to big.