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Prop shafts are covered with a four layer system that includes fiberglass as the final layer.
These coatings are best applied on a lathe in a machine shop, facilitated by the removal of the shafts.
They are designed to last 15 years, so may not be applied at every drydocking.

Anti Fouling and Anti Corrosion coatings are multiple layers as well and consist of grey, black and red coats.

The first coat you see above is very close to a light ghost grey. I've seen it in person. The photos are not showing the true color.

Everything you ever wanted to know about USN ship preservation is available in the following, (try everyspec.com)

NAVAL SHIPS’ TECHNICAL MANUAL, CHAPTER 631, PRESERVATION OF SHIPS IN SERVICE - GENERAL

MIL-STD-2199 COVERINGS FOR WATERBORNE MAIN PROPULSION SHAFTING ON U.S. NAVAL SURFACE SHIPS AND SUBMARINES

[quote="BB62vet"]Here are the latest photos of NEW JERSEY's hull with the first new coatings being applied -
I'm sure that Ryan Syzmanski (curator) can better explain what this coating is and why it was chosen. Unless, of course, they got a deal on surplus M1 Abrams Tank [b]Desert Tan[/b] from the U.S. Army paint depot..... :doh_1:
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It's a primer coat. Each layer is a different color so that the painters can see where they missed. The last coat is anti-fouling red.

Oddly, there was no anti-fouling paint perviously. They had just taken the boot stripe all the way down so the bottom was black.

You should get up there and see it!

Here are the latest photos of NEW JERSEY's hull with the first new coatings being applied -
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I'm sure that Ryan Syzmanski (curator) can better explain what this coating is and why it was chosen. Unless, of course, they got a deal on surplus M1 Abrams Tank [b]Desert Tan[/b] from the U.S. Army paint depot..... :doh_1:

My thanks to the USS NEW JERSEY Museum for giving me the "okey dokey" to post the photos :thumbs_up_1:

Hank

[quote="FFG-7"]why are the prop shafts a different color then the hull as would have thought both would have been the same color?[/quote]

I suspect the shafts were removed. Documentation shows the bearings in the struts were wood from post WWII to the 80's. Then they were replaced with a phenolic. That would have required removing the end section of the shaft.

The fairwaters on the shaft joints are not in place. They may be in storage on the ship.

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why are the prop shafts a different color then the hull as would have thought both would have been the same color?

Martin,

Thanks for sharing!! Great Photos! I'm glad you included a shot of the ever elusive Docking Keel - that obscure item that befuddles most modelers. :doh_1:

For comparison, here's a couple photos of BB-62 in drydock in 1981 (Long Beach) - my friend Richard Landgraff (now deceased) is standing on the stbd. shaft. These also show the corrosion coupons installed on the ship at the time.

Drydock tour photos posted on the [url=https://www.facebook.com/100063699993541/posts/pfbid021hCbisheVb4rs69GpH9umciD7WeyWAmsiKDNch3JQc4epqXudYGm7hrJiRfYb5Ktl/?][b][u]MW FB page[/u][/b][/url]. Here's a few of the photos:
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If you can get to the Philadelphia Naval Yard, the tour is well worth it!

A summary of things I have seen wrong with kits:

1. Bow knife edge way too wide.
2. Lack of a docking keel
3. The tunnel does not widen forward
4. The twin keels are incorrectly depicted as skegs rather than being integral part of the hull
5. Missing the two knuckles aft in the hull form
6. Missing the half siding under the stern
7. Shaft bossing on twin keels too long or (usually) too short
8. Hull form incorrect so the outer props enter the hull in the wrong place.
9. Hull plating wrong (and over scale)

Discussion: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=384482

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More interesting things about the ship and the renovation process. After seeing this I'm pretty happy with the props I 3D designed and printed for my 1;192 Missouri.

Cheers: Tom

Pascal,

Thanks again for posting! Quite interesting as things move forward.

Hank

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[quote="Timmy C"]Fairly certain shadowed numbers weren't used during the war.

In any case, these two large images on Navsource from Dec 1944 shows plain white numbers, no shadows:
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Correct. They were 24" high and usually white.
On lighter paint, they could be black.

Shadows came back when camo was removed post war and Haze gray was standardized.
Interestingly, the shading was 'not required during emergencies' So once the Emergency of War was over, it could be used again.

Aug 1946 is the earliest instruction letter I've seen for PacFlt ships to be painted Haze gray (Measure 13).
NAVSHIPS 250-374 Ship Concealment Camouflage Instructions came out in 1953, which is the first post war publication I've seen calling for gray ships. Measure US 27 (Haze Gray) or Measure US 17 (Ocean Gray)
NAVSHIPS 250-374 superseded Ships-2 March 1945 revision, so it took a while to standardize ship painting after the war.

Fairly certain shadowed numbers weren't used during the war.

In any case, these two large images on Navsource from Dec 1944 shows plain white numbers, no shadows:
https://navsource.org/archives/01/061/016107c.jpg
https://navsource.org/archives/01/061/016107.jpg

Hi,

I am building the USS Iowa [b]late 1944[/b] and I was wondering what her pennant number looks like. Was it [b](i) plain white[/b] or already [b](ii) with a black shadow[/b] as todays USN pennant numbers (as in the above post pic for example)? It was sure very small compared to todays sizes.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a close-up of her pennant number, thus, I can't tell. Does anybody have a close-up, insight or an idea?

Thx,

Jack

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I am taking lights down there so we can FINALLY get a picture of the docking keel.

Interesting! I hadn't known that the pressure per sq ft on the dry dock floor was an important consideration. The floating dry dock decks must have been hell for stout! He was off on his math by a factor of ten, maybe 90 tons per block rather than 900?

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