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I have a question: For one of the 1943 USN/BAD (British Admiralty Delegation) proposals to modernize the Nelsons in the US, Friedman states the following: Quote: (Plans showed three twin 5in/54 Mk 34 on each side. They would be controlled by four Mk 37 directors with Type 275 radars, fitted port and starboard on supports on the plotting platform and also abaft the mainmast on supports to be built on the shelter deck. Main-battery fire controls would be modernised with Type 274 radars and there would be two 16in barrage directors (for ‘B’ and ‘X’ mountings, fitting to be deferred). One pom-pom would replace the revolving armoured hood on the gun director tower forward. Three more would be mounted abaft the after superstructure. Of the existing six pom-poms, the two on the fore side of the funnel would remain, but the two on the after superstructure would be moved to the boat stowage space. The one pom-pom on the after end of the quarterdeck would remain, unless it had to be replaced by an RH 2 D/F antenna. At present the ship had forty-one single Oerlikons; as refitted she would have forty-eight single and four twin Oerlikons, for a total of fifty-six barrels.) What are these 16in barrage directors (for ‘B’ and ‘X’ mountings, fitting to be deferred) ??? And how would these look like?
I have a question: For one of the 1943 USN/BAD (British Admiralty Delegation) proposals to modernize the Nelsons in the US, Friedman states the following:
[quote](Plans showed three twin 5in/54 Mk 34 on each side. They would be controlled by four Mk 37 directors with Type 275 radars, fitted port and starboard on supports on the plotting platform and also abaft the mainmast on supports to be built on the shelter deck. Main-battery fire controls would be modernised with Type 274 radars and there would be two 16in barrage directors (for ‘B’ and ‘X’ mountings, fitting to be deferred). One pom-pom would replace the revolving armoured hood on the gun director tower forward. Three more would be mounted abaft the after superstructure. Of the existing six pom-poms, the two on the fore side of the funnel would remain, but the two on the after superstructure would be moved to the boat stowage space. The one pom-pom on the after end of the quarterdeck would remain, unless it had to be replaced by an RH 2 D/F antenna. At present the ship had forty-one single Oerlikons; as refitted she would have forty-eight single and four twin Oerlikons, for a total of fifty-six barrels.) [/quote]
What are these 16in barrage directors (for ‘B’ and ‘X’ mountings, fitting to be deferred) ??? And how would these look like?
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:09 am |
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Hi EJ, That is one of the very rare pictures I've seen from either Nelson or Rodney in drydock! I added a little blue arrow to indicate the issue... Attachment:
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And your note about the bilge keels will be lost to most, ast hardly anyone is aware these bilge keels were problematic, in the sense that running aground could cause the ship to founder, whilst these bilge keels were then forced upwards creating large leaks. So they removed the center part of the bilge keel, as is shown on the Shell Expansion Plan. But the way they did that was slightly different from the drawing. I would give an arm and a leg now to see whether they did that in the same way on Rodney as well! In that case I have to adjust my model...
Hi EJ,
That is one of the very rare pictures I've seen from either Nelson or Rodney in drydock! I added a little blue arrow to indicate the issue... [attachment=0]Nelson_Bilgekeels cropped.jpg[/attachment] And your note about the bilge keels will be lost to most, ast hardly anyone is aware these bilge keels were problematic, in the sense that running aground could cause the ship to founder, whilst these bilge keels were then forced upwards creating large leaks.
So they removed the center part of the bilge keel, as is shown on the Shell Expansion Plan. But the way they did that was slightly different from the drawing.
I would give an arm and a leg now to see whether they did that in the same way on Rodney as well! In that case I have to adjust my model... :scratch:
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:35 am |
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Image that was up for sale on Ebay, however, Brexit; preview is the best I can do. Keels do not follow the shell expansion plan outline but seem to be little more than a regular bilgekeel 'trimmed' at the bounding box of the hull.
[attachment=0]Nelson_Bilgekeels.jpg[/attachment]
Image that was up for sale on Ebay, however, Brexit; preview is the best I can do. Keels do not follow the shell expansion plan outline but seem to be little more than a regular bilgekeel 'trimmed' at the bounding box of the hull.
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:07 am |
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I've made new drawings and updated the previous ones: Nelson class as finished in 1927: Attachment:
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I've made new drawings and updated the previous ones: Nelson class as finished in 1927: [attachment=4]Nelson 1927.png[/attachment] In 1936: [attachment=3]Nelson 1936.png[/attachment] Nelson in 1940: [attachment=2]Nelson 1940.png[/attachment] Nelson in 1942: [attachment=1]Nelson 1942.png[/attachment] Nelson in 1945: [attachment=0]Nelson 1945.png[/attachment]
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:14 pm |
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EJFoeth wrote: .... This was the movie I was acutally trying the link https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060015143.... I think that there is something dodgy about the order of the clips in this colour film (IWM MGH 4574) and its caption referencing Op Pedestal. For example at the 0.44 mark we see HMS Nelson in her disruptive camouflage pattern first worn in April 1942 and with a pom pom on B turret. Yet later, at the 2.28 mark when she is doing gunnery practice, the turrets and gun barrels are all in overall Home Fleet Grey and there is a UP launcher on B turret ie how she was during 1941. Then at the 5.07 mark we see HMS Lightning in overall Home Fleet grey. Lightning wore this during 1941 but by the Spring of 1942 she was in a dark hull/light upperworks scheme and was that way during August 1942 (Pedestal). More likely is that the views of Lightning in the film are during Op Substance July 1941. This photo is said to date to 23 July 1941 and shows Lightning in company with Nelson then: Attachment:
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[quote="EJFoeth"]....
This was the movie I was acutally trying the link
[url]https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060015143[/url] ....[/quote]
I think that there is something dodgy about the order of the clips in this colour film (IWM MGH 4574) and its caption referencing Op Pedestal. For example at the 0.44 mark we see HMS Nelson in her disruptive camouflage pattern first worn in April 1942 and with a pom pom on B turret. Yet later, at the 2.28 mark when she is doing gunnery practice, the turrets and gun barrels are all in overall Home Fleet Grey and there is a UP launcher on B turret ie how she was during 1941. Then at the 5.07 mark we see HMS Lightning in overall Home Fleet grey. Lightning wore this during 1941 but by the Spring of 1942 she was in a dark hull/light upperworks scheme and was that way during August 1942 (Pedestal). More likely is that the views of Lightning in the film are during Op Substance July 1941. This photo is said to date to 23 July 1941 and shows Lightning in company with Nelson then: [attachment=0]Lightning 1941 7 23 b.jpg[/attachment]
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:38 am |
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Indeed, Rodney has a few patches of MS3 that are greenish (not green though). In the above link she's in full colour at the 11 minute mark. This was the movie I was acutally trying the link https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060015143Nelson in full colour around 45s. The patterns have been matched with the currently best available data on what the official colours were.
Indeed, Rodney has a few patches of MS3 that are greenish (not green though). In the above link she's in full colour at the 11 minute mark.
This was the movie I was acutally trying the link
[url]https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060015143[/url]
Nelson in full colour around 45s. The patterns have been matched with the currently best available data on what the official colours were.
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:10 am |
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TZoli wrote: So instead of green oriented was the colour scheme it was blue/dark grey oriented? I'm afraid some people were mixing up Rodney and Nelson. Indeed Rodney had some greenish teint in his camo scheme, Nelson didn't.
[quote="TZoli"]So instead of green oriented was the colour scheme it was blue/dark grey oriented?[/quote] I'm afraid some people were mixing up Rodney and Nelson. Indeed Rodney had some greenish teint in his camo scheme, Nelson didn't.
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:03 am |
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[url]https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060011111[/url]
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:53 am |
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So instead of green oriented was the colour scheme it was blue/dark grey oriented?
So instead of green oriented was the colour scheme it was blue/dark grey oriented?
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:36 am |
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For the camouflage pattern I'd like to refer you to the latest versions using the paints available at that time. Now, both Hood and Nelson were originally fitted with two Mk I pompom directors and these are very small; Hood's director was high up in the main structure and nearly impossible to spot in any photograph, so early photographs are not of much help. One source also mentioned Nelson was later fitted with 5 Mk IIs, however, my radar book in indicates that 4 type 282's were fitted in March 1942 (and these are fitted on pompom directors). Attachment:
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This image (April 1942) shows two of these radars, just in front and just aft of the main mast? Attachment:
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I find two just aft of the main mast, in front of the aft DCT, see type 282 antenna Attachment:
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For Rodney: in the main superstructure It's not uncommon that a pompom did not have a director; for the KGV-class the logical location for the fwd pompom in B turret was between the fwd HACS directors but were not always placed.
For the camouflage pattern I'd like to refer you to the latest versions using the paints available at that time.
[img]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0730/0927/files/Nelson_1942_1024x1024.jpg?v=1584270082[/img]
[img]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0730/0927/files/Nelson_1945_1024x1024.jpg?v=1584270203[/img]
Now, both Hood and Nelson were originally fitted with two Mk I pompom directors and these are very small; Hood's director was high up in the main structure and nearly impossible to spot in any photograph, so early photographs are not of much help. One source also mentioned Nelson was later fitted with 5 Mk IIs, however, my radar book in indicates that 4 type 282's were fitted in March 1942 (and these are fitted on pompom directors).
[attachment=0]Nelson.jpg[/attachment] This image (April 1942) shows two of these radars, just in front and just aft of the main mast?
[attachment=2]IWM_A 30469.jpg[/attachment] I find two just aft of the main mast, in front of the aft DCT, see type 282 antenna
[attachment=1]IWM_A 15844.jpg[/attachment] For Rodney: in the main superstructure
It's not uncommon that a pompom did not have a director; for the KGV-class the logical location for the fwd pompom in B turret was between the fwd HACS directors but were not always placed.
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:50 am |
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I think I've found the missing Pom-Pom director positions: In 1933-34 two octuple Pom-Poms were fitted in place of the Torpedo Director Towers abreast the funnels. It does not state where did directors for these mounts were placed but I think it was on top of the bridge behind the 6" Director Control Towers In 1940 an octuple Pom-Pom mounting was installed on the quartedeck and two in place of the aft 6" Director Control Towers. Again no statement for their directors placement In 1941-42, an octuple Pom-Pom mounting was fitted on top of B turret 3 Mark III directors were also fitted: two on the mainmast and one on the aft end of the shelter deck I presume either on the platform just aft of the main director where the later aft 20mm Oerlikon will be. Also apparently 4 barrage directors were also added at the aft end of the superstructure, abreast and abaft of the mainmast, I think this was the location on top of boat storage structure and the aft platforms on the mainmast. In 1944-45 refit at the Philadelphia Naval Yard, Pom-Pom directors were removed to provide space for Oerlikons so I presume the bridge superstructure ones the centreline aft one and the ones on the mainmast Also I've made drawings of Nelson's 1945 and 1942 state I hope the colour scheme is correct: 1942: Attachment:
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I think I've found the missing Pom-Pom director positions: In 1933-34 two octuple Pom-Poms were fitted in place of the Torpedo Director Towers abreast the funnels. It does not state where did directors for these mounts were placed but I think it was on top of the bridge behind the 6" Director Control Towers In 1940 an octuple Pom-Pom mounting was installed on the quartedeck and two in place of the aft 6" Director Control Towers. Again no statement for their directors placement In 1941-42, an octuple Pom-Pom mounting was fitted on top of B turret 3 Mark III directors were also fitted: two on the mainmast and one on the aft end of the shelter deck I presume either on the platform just aft of the main director where the later aft 20mm Oerlikon will be. Also apparently 4 barrage directors were also added at the aft end of the superstructure, abreast and abaft of the mainmast, I think this was the location on top of boat storage structure and the aft platforms on the mainmast. In 1944-45 refit at the Philadelphia Naval Yard, Pom-Pom directors were removed to provide space for Oerlikons so I presume the bridge superstructure ones the centreline aft one and the ones on the mainmast
Also I've made drawings of Nelson's 1945 and 1942 state I hope the colour scheme is correct: 1942: [attachment=1]Nelson 1942.png[/attachment] 1945: [attachment=0]Nelson 1945.png[/attachment]
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:27 am |
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Hi TZoliI suspect that both Fwd & Aft where locally directed but I couldn't total count out that they weren't, I suspect Paralex errors may have made them bit inaccurate, with the 2ppr 8 barrel PP principal of operation (throwing as much stuff in the general location of a enemy ac as quickly as possible ) it wasn't through worthwhile fitting a director. I may have to re-read Norman Friedman. - Naval Anti-Aircraft Guns and Gunnery to see if there any indication
graham wrote: Hi TZoli I have looked at all my photos/drawing and books I cant find any 2PDr Directors fitted for the fwd and aft 2pdr mountings, I happy enough with photos that I have looked through that they were never fitted
Graham
Interesting. Does this suggest they are locally directed? For the fantail one I an imagine the aft pair of directors would be used for that mounting but the turret-top one is very forward for the funnel ones! Though there should be enough space on top of the what I only guess is the Pom-Pom ammo storage structure on top of the 2nd 16" turret and behind the Pom-Pom mounting.
Hi TZoliI suspect that both Fwd & Aft where locally directed but I couldn't total count out that they weren't, I suspect Paralex errors may have made them bit inaccurate, with the 2ppr 8 barrel PP principal of operation (throwing as much stuff in the general location of a enemy ac as quickly as possible ) it wasn't through worthwhile fitting a director. I may have to re-read Norman Friedman. - Naval Anti-Aircraft Guns and Gunnery to see if there any indication
graham wrote: Hi TZoli I have looked at all my photos/drawing and books I cant find any 2PDr Directors fitted for the fwd and aft 2pdr mountings, I happy enough with photos that I have looked through that they were never fitted
Graham
Interesting. Does this suggest they are locally directed? For the fantail one I an imagine the aft pair of directors would be used for that mounting but the turret-top one is very forward for the funnel ones! Though there should be enough space on top of the what I only guess is the Pom-Pom ammo storage structure on top of the 2nd 16" turret and behind the Pom-Pom mounting.
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:04 pm |
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Thank you, I will fix my drawing than. From R. A. Burt - British Battleships 1919-1945, page 336: Quote: 1944–5: Nelson, as refitted for Eastern service, July 1944 to January 1945, main armament director position over conning tower removed. Light AA guns increased by 4 quad mountings 40mm AA, some 2pdr directors removed to make space for extra 20mm AA. LAA directors (283 RDF) were above and abaft forward pair of 40mm AA mountings, port and starboard on superstructure abeam and abaft mainmast and on platform on main tripod legs. SL removed from main tripod legs to make way for LAA directors. Internal arrangements modified for tropical service. Standard Admiralty camouflage scheme painted up in Nelson only. Type 650 anti-missile equipment fitted (late 1944), aerial on face of bridge. 1946: Some 20mm AA removed from both ships. Repainted all grey (Nelson only), Rodney retained original camouflage to the scrapyard. 1947–8: Stripped of all small guns, aerials and general small fittings, etc. Apparently there were directors for the centreline Pom-Poms or the mentioned removed Pom-Pom directors were re-located aft, on top of the boat equipment cabin and which should directed the funnel side Octuple Pom-Poms
Thank you, I will fix my drawing than.
From R. A. Burt - British Battleships 1919-1945, page 336: [quote]1944–5: Nelson, as refitted for Eastern service, July 1944 to January 1945, main armament director position over conning tower removed. Light AA guns increased by 4 quad mountings 40mm AA, some 2pdr directors removed to make space for extra 20mm AA. LAA directors (283 RDF) were above and abaft forward pair of 40mm AA mountings, port and starboard on superstructure abeam and abaft mainmast and on platform on main tripod legs. SL removed from main tripod legs to make way for LAA directors. Internal arrangements modified for tropical service. Standard Admiralty camouflage scheme painted up in Nelson only. Type 650 anti-missile equipment fitted (late 1944), aerial on face of bridge. 1946: Some 20mm AA removed from both ships. Repainted all grey (Nelson only), Rodney retained original camouflage to the scrapyard. 1947–8: Stripped of all small guns, aerials and general small fittings, etc.[/quote]
Apparently there were directors for the centreline Pom-Poms or the mentioned removed Pom-Pom directors were re-located aft, on top of the boat equipment cabin and which should directed the funnel side Octuple Pom-Poms
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:33 am |
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TZoli wrote: Another question: What is the accepted deck colour for around the conning tower? the level where the 40mm Single Pompoms, later the 12,7mm MG's were located pre-AA refit? Is it just darker grey metal or some wood or even Linoleum? This photo shows that level I think it was called the Conning Tower Platform: Attachment: fc677f80abf753223a856c5577545f82.jpg.b4df990aa2b06526bb7e686fa07da6a8.jpg Attachment: 16_inch_gun_turrets_and_Unrotated_Projectile_launchers_on_HMS_Nelson_1940_IWM_A_1994.jpg If you ask me: I would say Dark Grey painted metal. No Linoleum (Corticene!) for sure, then you would see brass strips to hold these down. In theory also Semtex could be used, but I never read anything about Semtex on Rodney or Nelson.
[quote="TZoli"]Another question: What is the accepted deck colour for around the conning tower? the level where the 40mm Single Pompoms, later the 12,7mm MG's were located pre-AA refit? Is it just darker grey metal or some wood or even Linoleum? This photo shows that level I think it was called the Conning Tower Platform: [attachment=1]fc677f80abf753223a856c5577545f82.jpg.b4df990aa2b06526bb7e686fa07da6a8.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=0]16_inch_gun_turrets_and_Unrotated_Projectile_launchers_on_HMS_Nelson_1940_IWM_A_1994.jpg[/attachment][/quote] If you ask me: I would say Dark Grey painted metal. No Linoleum (Corticene!) for sure, then you would see brass strips to hold these down.
In theory also Semtex could be used, but I never read anything about Semtex on Rodney or Nelson.
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:56 pm |
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Another question: What is the accepted deck colour for around the conning tower? the level where the 40mm Single Pompoms, later the 12,7mm MG's were located pre-AA refit? Is it just darker grey metal or some wood or even Linoleum? This photo shows that level I think it was called the Conning Tower Platform: Attachment:
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Another question: What is the accepted deck colour for around the conning tower? the level where the 40mm Single Pompoms, later the 12,7mm MG's were located pre-AA refit? Is it just darker grey metal or some wood or even Linoleum? This photo shows that level I think it was called the Conning Tower Platform: [attachment=1]fc677f80abf753223a856c5577545f82.jpg.b4df990aa2b06526bb7e686fa07da6a8.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=0]16_inch_gun_turrets_and_Unrotated_Projectile_launchers_on_HMS_Nelson_1940_IWM_A_1994.jpg[/attachment]
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:30 am |
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graham wrote: Hi TZoli I have looked at all my photos/drawing and books I cant find any 2PDr Directors fitted for the fwd and aft 2pdr mountings, I happy enough with photos that I have looked through that they were never fitted
Graham Interesting. Does this suggest they are locally directed? For the fantail one I an imagine the aft pair of directors would be used for that mounting but the turret-top one is very forward for the funnel ones! Though there should be enough space on top of the what I only guess is the Pom-Pom ammo storage structure on top of the 2nd 16" turret and behind the Pom-Pom mounting.
[quote="graham"]Hi TZoli I have looked at all my photos/drawing and books I cant find any 2PDr Directors fitted for the fwd and aft 2pdr mountings, I happy enough with photos that I have looked through that they were never fitted
Graham[/quote]
Interesting. Does this suggest they are locally directed? For the fantail one I an imagine the aft pair of directors would be used for that mounting but the turret-top one is very forward for the funnel ones! Though there should be enough space on top of the what I only guess is the Pom-Pom ammo storage structure on top of the 2nd 16" turret and behind the Pom-Pom mounting.
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Mr. Church wrote: From FB: Attachment: DragonNelson.jpg Something about Dragon's hull shape doesn't look right to me: amidships the hull below the waterline doesn't seem right, when comparing to the bilge keel; additionally the shape below the waterline from the break water forward seems bulged unnecessarily...
[quote="Mr. Church"]From FB: [attachment=0]DragonNelson.jpg[/attachment][/quote] Something about Dragon's hull shape doesn't look right to me: amidships the hull below the waterline doesn't seem right, when comparing to the bilge keel; additionally the shape below the waterline from the break water forward seems bulged unnecessarily...
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:29 pm |
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Hi TZoli I have looked at all my photos/drawing and books I cant find any 2PDr Directors fitted for the fwd and aft 2pdr mountings, I happy enough with photos that I have looked through that they were never fitted
Graham
Hi TZoli I have looked at all my photos/drawing and books I cant find any 2PDr Directors fitted for the fwd and aft 2pdr mountings, I happy enough with photos that I have looked through that they were never fitted
Graham
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:03 pm |
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I have a question: Nelson's 1944/45 state carried 6x Octuple Pom-Poms: - On top of the 2nd turret - A pair next to the funnel above and forward of the 2nd pair of 4,7" guns - A pair behind the tripod above and behind of the 3rd pair of 6" turrets - On the Fantail
Where were the Pom-Pom directors located at? I've only found 4 on the drawings and photos and all of them are located on the aft part of the superstructure, close to the aft pair of Pom-Pom guns, one pair behind the aft rangefinder side by side and another pair just forward of said Pom-Pom on the boat equipment storage room. But were the two centreline mounts had their own directors?
I have a question: Nelson's 1944/45 state carried 6x Octuple Pom-Poms: - On top of the 2nd turret - A pair next to the funnel above and forward of the 2nd pair of 4,7" guns - A pair behind the tripod above and behind of the 3rd pair of 6" turrets - On the Fantail
Where were the Pom-Pom directors located at? I've only found 4 on the drawings and photos and all of them are located on the aft part of the superstructure, close to the aft pair of Pom-Pom guns, one pair behind the aft rangefinder side by side and another pair just forward of said Pom-Pom on the boat equipment storage room. But were the two centreline mounts had their own directors?
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Thank you, philgollin and EJF.
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Thank you, philgollin and EJF.
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:24 am |
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