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Topic review - Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans
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  Post subject:  Iowa Class 5inch guns in 700th  Reply with quote
Gentlemen:

I have a question for you guys out there that may have built Trumpeter's Iowa's in 700th with metal barrels. When doing the 5" guns, do you use the metal barrel drilled directly into the turret or do you cut the plastic barrels off those tiny angle thingy's that keep the plastic barrels fitted into the turret straight?

Stephen C.
intruder500
Post Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:31 pm
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Welcome back, Randy!! I was following your work religiously and then you just dropped off the map. Great to see you back!
Post Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:02 am
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The two shipyard queens...



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Post Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:53 am
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Randy,
Glad you're amongst the living!!! Good to hear from you again. It would be nice to see you complete your 1/200 scale model - after all it's been thru!

Hank
Post Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:43 am
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Hi all... just checking out the forum - it's been two years since I last visited! You may not remember, but I am the fool who created and 3D-printed an "aft third hull correction" for my 1/200 Missouri. I was working on that kit along with the Pontos detail set back in 2014/15 timeframe, while learning Solidworks in preparation for a different project. It's really great to see this Iowa thread still going strong, with many familiar authors.

What led me back here? Long story, which I will convert to a reader's digest version. My original plan was to build the 1/200 model and learn about Missouri along the way. In addition I created a 1/200 e-model using Solidworks. THAT effort led to the creation of the aft hull correction parts, which I successfully (I think, anyway) installed onto the trumpeter kit. My ultimate plan for all this was to acquire and build a 1/96 Missouri, using skills developed up to this point to create accurate, custom parts using solidworks.

Soooo (and I'm getting to the good part), at some point I did purchase the 1/96 hull and associated parts, and put the 1/200 model on the shelf for the time being. "Time being" stretched into several months as I generated Missouri in 1/96 and began the process of engineering that project (if you know where to see that build log, you'll understand the use of the word "engineered" :) ), at which point one of my cats knocked the 1/200 model onto the tile floor, five feet below (different cat from the one that destroyed USS Boston...). Anyway, I mopped up the tears and gathered the wreckage, and "stored" it back on the shelf, where it has sat since. Mocking me.

In the intervening five-ish years, I have made reasonable progress on my 1/96 project, but the 1/200 hull - and that beautiful Pontos detail set - continued to call to me. So two weekends ago I took the hull down, dusted everything off, and took stock of the damage. Fast forward two weeks, and I claim it would take a sharp eye to tell what had happened. The 1/200 model is back where it was all those years ago, plus some additional work on one of the turrets. While working on the repairs it dawned on me that I haven't been to modelwarships in a very long time... so here I am :)

As I said, it's great to see activity on this thread. I'm going to lurk for awhile and catch up.

Good day all,
Randy
Post Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:37 pm
  Post subject:  On Belt Armor  Reply with quote
Here's a little information that conflicts with what is published.

The lower belt plates are 12.1" thick at the top (16"in length at the top). Then they taper to knuckles of 11.7" , 6.4", 2.3", and 1.62" thickness.

But that was the mill size of the plates. At the shipyard they were cut to length (so the bottom would be thicker than 1.62") and they were machined to create a taper to 1" at the bottom.

So the plates arrived at the shipyard 1.62" at the bottom but when they were installed they were 1" at the bottom.
Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:37 pm
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wojtekp90 wrote:
What were the dimensions of the portholes in the superstructure?



12" DIA FWD FR87
16" DIA
12" DIA AFT FR137

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Post Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 3:35 pm
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What were the dimensions of the portholes in the superstructure?
Post Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:03 am
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Iowa and Wisconsin have the new shell with the commanders copula
Missouri has her original director with the commanders copula
New Jersey still has her original modified director without the commanders copula

Iowa and Wisconsin:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/0161077.jpg

Missouri
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/016361d.jpg

New Jersey
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/016201d.jpg
Post Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:34 pm
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Thomas E. Johnson wrote:
You model looks fantastic Chuck! :thumbs_up_1:


Thanks!
Post Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 11:03 am
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If I recall, the MK-37 directors had their external shells replaced after WWII with a new style. Did the difference in commander's copula persist?
Post Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 10:15 am
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wojtekp90 wrote:
Were there big differences between Missouri and New Jersey from 1990?


A few:

By the 1990's there were number differences. The forward director tower on the New Jersey is completely different from those of the other ships. The NJ has "ears" while the others have a wrap around structure.

The Missouri has a mess for the main mast deck. It is solid on the other ships.

The forward support of the main mast ends at a support on the NJ. It extends down to the secondary conn level on the other ships.

The NJ and IA have different MK.38 directors from the other ships. The WI and MO have black backs (giving more room) while the NJ and IA have sloped backs.

The Missouri has MK.37 directors with commander cupolas. The NJ's directors lack these.

The forward turret on the MO has ventilators at the side. The NJ lacks these.

The NJ has lockers behind the bridge doors. The ships lack these.

The light lock in the open air tunnel behind the flag bridge (03 level) is different on all four ships.

The vents on top of the 20mm clipping room forward of turret 2 are different.

NJ has a large vent at the O1 level next to the FAS control platform. MO has a vent with a different shape.

The supports under the chaff platform are different both forward and under the side Mk.37 directors.

The two forward tomahawk launchers are slightly different on the NJ than from the MO.

The 04 extensions below the Phalanx launcher go all the way to the end of the deck on the MO but jut back in on the NJ>
Post Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 5:12 pm
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In 1945, the Missouri carried 5 36" search lights, 2 24" signal/search lights, 9 12" signal lights.

If by target designators, you means the pedestal mounted bearing transmitters with binoculars, then there were 8 of them.
Post Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 3:58 pm
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Hello, I have some questions

Were there big differences between Missouri and New Jersey from 1990?
How many searchlights 36 In had Missouri in 1945 and How many searchlights 24 In had Missouri in 1945.?
How many 12 In signaling lamps and target designator had in 1945?
It is worth buying this book, which includes:
USS Missouri (Bb-63): America's Last Battleship by David Doyle?
Post Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 11:58 am
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bigjimslade! From the inside, it looks like this. I will try to open my topik on Works in Progress.


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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 10:36 am
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You model looks fantastic Chuck! :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:31 pm
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SIBIRIAK-66 wrote:
Many thanks to everyone! Guys, your knowledge is very helpful in work!

I cannot wait to see how the waterway turns out.
Post Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:20 pm
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Many thanks to everyone! Guys, your knowledge is very helpful in work!
Post Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:17 pm
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A strip of brass is glued on the cyacrin...


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Post Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:00 pm
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On my model in 350 scale, I tried to make a waterweiss..


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