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Topic review - Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans
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  Post subject:  Next Book  Reply with quote
I've received a few inquires on the next Iowa-class book.

I've been moving a bit slowly on it because the next on in the queue is the external hull structure and we have the big event related to the topic.

That is, USS New Jersey is going into drydock. I expect to be able to go over the entire hull and photograph areas that have not made it in print before, such as the keel.

So probably early next year is when I'll be done.

Then comes the internal hull structure.

And probably the 16-inch turrets after that.

And probably the superstructure after that.
Post Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:00 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
Mr. Church wrote:
Thanks lads for your replies, much appreciated.

I will assume no Bushmasters for Wisconsin unless some definitive smoking gun (Smoking Bushmaster?!) evidence emerges in the meantime.


I think you are correct here. As I said, there is only an urban legend that they were taken from MO and shifted to WI. How would that have happened at sea?
Post Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:49 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
Thanks lads for your replies, much appreciated.

I will assume no Bushmasters for Wisconsin unless some definitive smoking gun (Smoking Bushmaster?!) evidence emerges in the meantime.
Post Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:06 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
Mr. Church wrote:
Just wondering does anyone know for sure if Wisconsin carried the 25mm Bushmaster mounts also?


The possibly apocryphal story is that the mounts on Missouri were moved to Wisconsin.
Post Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:55 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
It's definitely hard to tell, but I'm leaning towards not.

In this pic, you can see a barrel just to the left of the 2 5" mounts, almost dead center of the photo. But, then again, it could just be one of the saluting guns.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/48/98/68 ... 7570ff.jpg

In this pic, I only see the 2 saluting guns, I would have expected to see a bushmaster if it was there.

https://nara.getarchive.net/media/crew- ... ing-686714
Post Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:53 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
Watching this video from USS New Jersey Museum and Memorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO-Z8SMB3nc

It mentions USS Missouri and Wisconsin being equipped with 25mm Bushmaster Mountings at the time of Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm in 1990-91.

Now Missouri's 25mm mounts are clearly evident in photos and in her crew video filmed at the time 'A Call to Crisis":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGsTwyPZM8o So there is no doubt that she carried them.

Just wondering does anyone know for sure if Wisconsin carried the 25mm Bushmaster mounts also?

There is some footage of her on YouTube from the period, but it is too low resolution of the lighting is too tricky to definitively tell if she has the mounts. And all the photos I know of in books etc are also from too far away to definitively tell. Unless of course they were mounted in a different location to those on Missouri?

Just curious as I have the Tamiya kit that I plan to ultimately build as Wisconsin in her 1990-91 Desert Shield / Desert Storm fit. Thanks.
Post Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:44 pm
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Fliger747 wrote:
According to a NAVWEPS article only Wisconsin has the barn door system installed, most likely as an experiment. In their 80's reactivation Wisconsin was the only one who had loose rudder issues.


Maybe there was a system to do it remotely. In the steering gear control rooms, each rudder is on a separate, duplicated system. Each rudder has its own trick wheel and the two are located in separate compartments. When steering was routed to one of the three conning stations, they controlled the two rudders together by sending the same signal to both simultaneously. Possibly on Wisconsin something was done to allow the conning stations to control the rudders separately by sending different signals to each rudder.

When steering was done from the steering control rooms, each rudder moved on its own and the two rooms would have to communicate with each other to keep synchronized. If one room steered port and the other steered starboard, they could close the barn doors on any of the Iowas.
Post Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:09 pm
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According to a NAVWEPS article only Wisconsin has the barn door system installed, most likely as an experiment. In their 80's reactivation Wisconsin was the only one who had loose rudder issues.
Post Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:53 am
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DavidP wrote:
only 3, try 4 1yr cats & 3 5 month old kittens.


Only three on top of my chest at a time. :-)
Chloe, Angela, Samson, Anthony, Priscilla, Muffin, Paprika, Jalapeño, Tabasco, & Habanero in bed. (A lot of shelter naming there)
Post Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:15 pm
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Post Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:14 pm
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Do folks have any idea what it's like typing with three cats on top of you?
Post Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:28 pm
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:44 pm
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:smallsmile: :big_grin: :cool_2: :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:53 pm
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It's being towed downriver to the old Philthydelpia Navy Yard - and YES - 2014....a time warp :doh_1: we're moving into the Danger Zone (as the '80s song goes)!!!!

:whistle: :shipcaptain:
Post Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:41 am
  Post subject:  Re: The Big Day is March 21, 2014  Reply with quote
bigjimslade wrote:
USS New Jersey is setting sail again Thursday March 21, 2014 for the first time in over 30 years.


2014?
Post Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:17 am
  Post subject:  Re: The Big Day is March 21, 2014  Reply with quote
bigjimslade wrote:
USS New Jersey is setting sail again Thursday March 21, 2014 for the first time in over 30 years.


Is she being towed UP river or DOWN river? I'm guessing the ship's website may have something on the move today??

Hank
Post Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:34 am
  Post subject:  The Big Day is March 21, 2014  Reply with quote
USS New Jersey is setting sail again Thursday March 21, 2014 for the first time in over 30 years.
Post Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:19 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
Good that she is getting a shipyard drydock period! Looks to be about 6 months.
Post Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:27 am
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Battleship New Jersey (BB-62) having its radar removed to pass under the Walt Whitman Bridge in Philadelphia on the way to drydock - January 11, 2024.

Source: FaceBook- Battleship New Jersey

Image
Post Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:20 am
  Post subject:  Re: Joy Yard USS Missouri - Hull Accuracy  Reply with quote
smorariu wrote:
I was wondering if the group has had a chance to look at the Joy Yard Missouri - specifically for hull accuracy. At first glance, it looks very accurate to me. I was wondering what the group felt?

My comments are in the review.

I will add that the bow looks more accurate than what I have seen and this is the only plastic kit I have seen with the keel.
The plating is massively overscale and wildly inaccurate.
Post Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:02 pm

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