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This has perked my interest, and I’ve been re-reading “The Phantom Fleet” by A.Cecil Hampshire, which tells the story of Centurion/Anson. I wanted to try a model in 1/350 scale, and bought the ISW Orion, which is a member of the previous class, but similar enough to suffice. Also bought a 1/400 Heller KGV. The turrets and funnels can be used on the Orion to make a pretty close approximation of the dummy Anson. Have collected pictures and descriptions of the ship, but can’t quite get my head around some of the details, especially as viewed from above. We’re all the disguise structures strictly for the side view, or did they include fake decks as well? I’ve seen some pictures of how the Germans handled this on disguised merchant cruisers, but didn’t know if this applied here.
This has perked my interest, and I’ve been re-reading “The Phantom Fleet” by A.Cecil Hampshire, which tells the story of Centurion/Anson. I wanted to try a model in 1/350 scale, and bought the ISW Orion, which is a member of the previous class, but similar enough to suffice. Also bought a 1/400 Heller KGV. The turrets and funnels can be used on the Orion to make a pretty close approximation of the dummy Anson. Have collected pictures and descriptions of the ship, but can’t quite get my head around some of the details, especially as viewed from above. We’re all the disguise structures strictly for the side view, or did they include fake decks as well? I’ve seen some pictures of how the Germans handled this on disguised merchant cruisers, but didn’t know if this applied here.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:15 am |
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Thanks, TJ, most helpful. The two sides look similar, as it was meant to deceive, not hide, I guess. The one that blows up well was helpful in better detailing. I guess there is not too many pictures around, as that would be defeating the process. All the added structures were made of wood & canvas, which is why "A turret" floated off in a storm. She did carry some real AAA, though
It looks like she was stripped back for Normandy, (as who would want floating turrets in the landing area)
Cheers
Thanks, TJ, most helpful. The two sides look similar, as it was meant to deceive, not hide, I guess. The one that blows up well was helpful in better detailing. I guess there is not too many pictures around, as that would be defeating the process. All the added structures were made of wood & canvas, which is why "A turret" floated off in a storm. She did carry some real AAA, though
It looks like she was stripped back for Normandy, (as who would want floating turrets in the landing area)
Cheers
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:08 am |
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I don't think she ever carried a real hangar. The fake hangar appears to be a rectangular box. There is a fairly poor quality image of the ship's port side at https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C237948. Another starboard side photo is at http://www.navyphotos.co.uk/Battleships ... ntrn1b.jpg. Some photos of the ship after being scuttled, which may help, can be found at http://omaha-vierville.com/WebOmahaVier ... uerre.html and http://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go& ... %220%22%3E,
I don't think she ever carried a real hangar. The fake hangar appears to be a rectangular box.
There is a fairly poor quality image of the ship's port side at https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C237948. Another starboard side photo is at http://www.navyphotos.co.uk/Battleships%20Cruisers%20Monitors/images/cntrn1b.jpg.
Some photos of the ship after being scuttled, which may help, can be found at http://omaha-vierville.com/WebOmahaVierville1944/WebMulberry/85141-PortApresGuerre.html and http://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_154884004609515&key=18d81f55cfc0fd275a864f494f914b76&libId=jrizbsz50100icfe000DA3i7n4ojm&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforummarine.forumactif.com%2Ft7326p45-6-juin-1944-debarquement-en-normandie&v=1&out=https%3A%2F%2Fservimg.com%2Fimage_preview.php%3Fi%3D2756%26u%3D16888492&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2F&title=6%20juin%201944%20D%C3%A9barquement%20en%20Normandie%20-%20Page%203&txt=%3Cimg%20src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fi.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff39%2F16%2F88%2F84%2F92%2Fcentur12.jpg%22%20alt%3D%22%22%20border%3D%220%22%3E,
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:32 am |
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This is the CENTURION /ANSON, armed with "quaker" cannons and painted secondary's. She went to Gibraltar, rounded the horn to come back to Alexandria, where her original mission was cancelled. CENTURION/ ANSON actually escorted a convoy, but was called back when it was rumoured that the Italian fleet had sailed (pom-poms vs whatever the Italians could bring was not a healthy deal). Adm Sommerville decided that she was to much a "bomb magnet" in harbor (GEORGIC was bombed and beached for being too close in proximity), so she was sent to the Indian Ocean, and lost "A Turret" in a storm. She returned to Bombay, and spread rumours that she lost her turret in a fight with a raider. Anyway, in the end, she fulfilled her original mission, leading a column of ships to form a breaker off Normandy. The Germans thought they had sunk a major ship with heavy loss of life when only the seventy sailors aboard abandoned ship.
[img]http://i64.tinypic.com/20hwkex.jpg[/img]
This is the CENTURION /ANSON, armed with "quaker" cannons and painted secondary's. She went to Gibraltar, rounded the horn to come back to Alexandria, where her original mission was cancelled. CENTURION/ ANSON actually escorted a convoy, but was called back when it was rumoured that the Italian fleet had sailed (pom-poms vs whatever the Italians could bring was not a healthy deal). Adm Sommerville decided that she was to much a "bomb magnet" in harbor (GEORGIC was bombed and beached for being too close in proximity), so she was sent to the Indian Ocean, and lost "A Turret" in a storm. She returned to Bombay, and spread rumours that she lost her turret in a fight with a raider.
Anyway, in the end, she fulfilled her original mission, leading a column of ships to form a breaker off Normandy. The Germans thought they had sunk a major ship with heavy loss of life when only the seventy sailors aboard abandoned ship.
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:49 am |
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This thread is for the King George V class battleships that served in World War I. The class included the lead ship HMS King George V, along with sisters Ajax, Centurion, Audacious. ****************** Hi, All I'm trying to model a KGV (WW1) into a CENTURION /ANSON as she spent a good deal of time during WW2. I've only been able to located a few fuzzy pictures, but am trying to find better details as to thr "conversion", such as the bridge, a/c hanger and port side camo. CENTURION/ANSON actually had an interesting career, intended to be a "blockship" in Tripoli, but ended up with a longer career. AVAILABLE KITS:1/700Combrig King George V Combrig Ajax Combrig Centurion Combrig Audacious GALLERY ENTRIES:1/700 Peter Fulgoney's Combrig Audacious: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... /index.htmREVIEWS:Combrig 1/700 Ajax
This thread is for the King George V class battleships that served in World War I. The class included the lead ship HMS King George V, along with sisters Ajax, Centurion, Audacious.
****************** Hi, All I'm trying to model a KGV (WW1) into a CENTURION /ANSON as she spent a good deal of time during WW2. I've only been able to located a few fuzzy pictures, but am trying to find better details as to thr "conversion", such as the bridge, a/c hanger and port side camo. CENTURION/ANSON actually had an interesting career, intended to be a "blockship" in Tripoli, but ended up with a longer career.
[b]AVAILABLE KITS:[/b] [b]1/700[/b] Combrig King George V Combrig Ajax Combrig Centurion Combrig Audacious
[b]GALLERY ENTRIES:[/b] 1/700 Peter Fulgoney's Combrig Audacious: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/bb/hms/Audacious-700-pf/index.htm
[b]REVIEWS:[/b] Combrig 1/700 [url=http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/hms/bb/Ajax-700-com-mq/CombrigAjax.htm][b][u]Ajax[/u][/b][/url]
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:40 pm |
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