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Topic review - Calling all IJN Nagato class fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Nagato class fans  Reply with quote
What i find really facinating about the Nagato class is the main Rangefinder ontop of the superstructure. Normal Rangefinders are some kind of "Turret" that turns around its axis but on Nagato its actually on a rail that moves around the superstructure. Does anyone have any info why the Nagato class had this rather unique RF configuration compared to the other IJN BB's?
Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:15 am
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You’re a lifesaver, Dan. Thank you!
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:35 pm
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The Ishibashi book indicates that both ships did have this director arrangement. And then I found this:


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Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:27 pm
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Thanks, Dan. I really appreciate your help!
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:54 pm
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I'll try to remember to check the Ishibashi BB book tonite. Maybe that will have this configuration in it.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:58 pm
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Wouldn't the rangefinders have been added at or around that time? If they need to be deleted from the build, that's fine. If not, is the shape present in the Aoshima kit correct? The TROM isn't clear.

I've found evidence of the searchlight platforms present on NAGATO, but the photo of MUTSU with her twin funnel configuration and midships (127mm?) rangefinders present seems to be the only time I see all these features in one place.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:49 pm
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From Combinedfleet.com:

1932:
Four twin (4x2) dual purpose 5-inch (127-mm) HA guns are installed. The existing 3-inch (76-mm) AA guns are landed. Four 40-mm/62 Vickers AA guns (2 x 2) are also added to the weather deck.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:41 pm
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The rangefinders are present in the 1933 Aoshima kit. Your comment that they weren't even present during the modeled year is also a possibility I've considered. My next question: is Aoshima's 1933 kit more accurate to her 1934 fit? Were the 127mm guns installed at that point?

Thanks!
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:40 pm
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I'm not certain those rangefinders appeared until after her first modernization of 1934. You may be confusing them with the searchlight platforms errected around the funnel.
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:54 pm
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I'm stealing this photo from an earlier posting for feedback on the 1933 Nagato kit:

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The midships rangefinders appear to be on a solid structure, rather than:

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I'm fearing Aoshima made the platform "solid" for Nagato by simply using the Mutsu image as evidence. I can still correct a '33 Nagato I'm working on, so I'm hoping to get a resolution to this issue.

Thanks!
Post Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:10 am
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Jeff Dundee wrote:
Hi folks,

I have in the stock a Nagato from Otaki (1/400 scale). Unfortunately, I do not have the instruction sheets :( . If one of you has it, please let me know :thumbs_up_1:



I still have mine, give me some time to scan the pages there are quite few of them. If you can pm me your email address.



Jose :wave_1:
Post Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:57 pm
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Hi folks,

I have in the stock a Nagato from Otaki (1/400 scale). Unfortunately, I do not have the instruction sheets :( . If one of you has it, please let me know :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:11 pm
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For the most part, yes. Again, there are some detail differences .
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:24 pm
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Dan, since Mutsu is based mostly on Nagato, and I was doing Nagato in 1/350, it looks like I can use the documentation of z Nagato, right?
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:17 am
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Most references (of which there are many) usually focus on Nagato. The differences between she and Mutsu were not many.

Now out of publications is the Model Art Super Illustration of Nagato, which has exemplary drawings in three point perspectives of all her features, along with those details that differentiated Mutsu. Usually available on second hand sites: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ ... -131712865

Kagero Publications also produces a volume on Nagato: https://www.ebay.com/i/152897520206?chn=ps


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:47 am
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Dan, Atma...Thanks guys for the feedback ... What do I need? It would be great if I had the largest possible number of documentary and clear photos of the ship (maybe some shipbuilding drawings, plans?). If you could recommend, also indicate the modeler and photos of his model from this period, on which you can reliably rely, my gratitude would be boundless. :smallsmile:
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:51 am
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Cezary wrote:
Hello all
I intend to make the Fujimi model No. 401034 in the 1/700 scale, namely the IJN Mutsu. I made a few 1/350 Japanese ships (Musashi, Takao, Ise, Nagato, Fuso). However, for me, all ships of the Empire of Japan have one thing in common: they cause that after the first look you make a man, the next and the next and next, until you can not stand it and you are running for the model ... They just have "something" that is difficult to name and what makes you come back to them and come back ...
Therefore, if the health of an old man and finance allow me to do more IJN models. I can not afford to buy PE for valorization, that's why my hot request for all materials, photos, drawings of this ship. The bigger the number of materials, the more it will allow me to do some details on my own, without having to buy PE.
Regards

Here you can check what inside the box:
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10135082
As you can see the detail is high and the kit has a lot of extra parts, AA guns, boats etc.
Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:02 am
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Well, that's an early war (1941), full hull kit. What exactly do you need?
Post Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:40 pm
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Hello all
I intend to make the Fujimi model No. 401034 in the 1/700 scale, namely the IJN Mutsu. I made a few 1/350 Japanese ships (Musashi, Takao, Ise, Nagato, Fuso). However, for me, all ships of the Empire of Japan have one thing in common: they cause that after the first look you make a man, the next and the next and next, until you can not stand it and you are running for the model ... They just have "something" that is difficult to name and what makes you come back to them and come back ...
Therefore, if the health of an old man and finance allow me to do more IJN models. I can not afford to buy PE for valorization, that's why my hot request for all materials, photos, drawings of this ship. The bigger the number of materials, the more it will allow me to do some details on my own, without having to buy PE.
Regards
Post Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:50 am
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Yup, just got an e-mail from HS to reserve that. Which is annoying because I just spent a lot of money there on an order where they told me it was out of stock so I got something else, only to be told within a week that it will be back! Anyway I know the differences are small and could be scratch built, but the 1933 is the one I really want.
Post Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:56 am

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