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Topic review - Calling all IJN Yamato (大和) and Musashi (武蔵) fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
gscott wrote:

Hi Mike.

Here's an interesting video that shows someone building the 1/700 Yamato from (3) different manufacturers. The video moves quickly but you should be able to discern differences between the various kits. HTH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09I4EoIt884

ETA:

Part 2 showing completed models:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXwQle-_bWI


I've been studying this videos and have also the Pit-road kit. In the past I used to own the Yamato and old Fujimi 1/700 models of the Yamato. In my opinion Pit-road is the best however I was also fascinated by the new version of Fujimi NEXT with proper photoetched parts. With Pit-road in my opinion you put yourself in something very attractive but also very hard to put togather (and quite expensive). Probably the most balanced decision is Fujmi kit with proper PE set developed by Fujimi
Post Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:37 am
  Post subject:  Re: IJN YAMATO RIGGING  Reply with quote
BrianBrachiopod wrote:
I am using Katana's 2017 rigging posts to help with a 1/250 motorised but static display model.
Does anyone know how thick the main rigging cables of the Yamato were?
(specifically the 4 main cables from the jack pole to the bridge, and the near-vertical cables near the centre).


From material resistance stand point, the long rigging cables (stretching from bow/stern jack poles to the bridge/mast) must have been below (yet around) 1cm. At 1/250 scale they would be well under 0.1mm. What I did in my 1/250 build (I used the Arii kit as a base for my build) I used 0.1mm fishing line.

As for the auxiliary rigging, this would be a totally different story. At 1/250 scale they would be in range 10 microns. Well, as gross as it might sound for some, for those I used human hair. It happens that my wife has a beautiful, thin, long & straight hair so every time I need to do small scale rigging, I ask her to save few strains of hair for me when she brushes off. Although they are (obviously) well above the 10microns, visually they look way thinner than the 100microns fishing line, that serves the purpose of using them in the first place.

From engineering stand point, human hair has fantastic mechanical properties. It is slightly elastic, and considering its thickness, even a tiny amount of tensile stress would lead to a very sharp, very straight looking rigging. Moreover, as opposed to most of the synthetic lines it does not lose its elastic properties (neither decay) over very long periods of time. I have decade old builds, where the rigging is as tense and straight as the day one...oh, not to mention that it makes a perfect and instant bond with the cyanoacrylate based glue.
Post Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 6:18 am
  Post subject:  1/200 fujimi kit  Reply with quote
i’ve been watching build videos on youtube of the fujimi 1/200 yamato bridge and central superstructure.
are these meant to replace the same parts on the nichimo kit or is fujimi going to release every part of the ship until modelers can build a complete kit?
Post Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:22 pm
  Post subject:  IJN YAMATO RIGGING  Reply with quote
I am using Katana's 2017 rigging posts to help with a 1/250 motorised but static display model.
Does anyone know how thick the main rigging cables of the Yamato were?
(specifically the 4 main cables from the jack pole to the bridge, and the near-vertical cables near the centre).
Post Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:21 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
Mike W wrote:
Can anyone tell me how the 1/700 Aoshima Yamato compares to the other 1/700 Yamato kits out there? I've heard that Pit Road is the best, so I'm mostly interested how it compares to the newer Tamiya kit (which I have) and the Fujimi kit (I have their Musashi). So if anyone has compared the different kits, please let me know.

thanks
Mike



Hi Mike.

Here's an interesting video that shows someone building the 1/700 Yamato from (3) different manufacturers. The video moves quickly but you should be able to discern differences between the various kits. HTH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09I4EoIt884

ETA:

Part 2 showing completed models:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXwQle-_bWI
Post Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 9:52 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
Can anyone tell me how the 1/700 Aoshima Yamato compares to the other 1/700 Yamato kits out there? I've heard that Pit Road is the best, so I'm mostly interested how it compares to the newer Tamiya kit (which I have) and the Fujimi kit (I have their Musashi). So if anyone has compared the different kits, please let me know.

thanks
Mike
Post Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 3:31 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
It's true that English is not my first langue so I might have a deformed interpretation of what the promise word means, although the primary dictionary definition for this word is pretty clear: a declaration that a particular thing will happen.

promise, noun
1. a declaration or assurance that one will do something or that a particular thing will happen.

Regarding sending you a pm with my email address, this would be like in the story of the chicken and the egg...to be able to send you a pm I would have to be logged in while I can not log in until I send you my email address so you can update my credentials. You did not ask me to send you my email address before though. Last year you only said you would keep an eye on my account for a while and also instructed the topic's moderators to delete the message exchange pertaining to this case after a week or so.
This being said, let's let it as it is guys. As said already, I did not make a purpose in life to have an account on this forum.
Post Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 5:08 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
sandman-therealone wrote:
..... We already had this conversation last year and although you guys admitted that my account wad probably deleted in error and there was a promise that the account will be restored, well, for the record, I can't login to my "sandman" account using the credentials I used for years. If you indeed restored the account, you probably did not restore the credentials associated with it and that makes it useless. But then again, I don't have a problem to post as a guest when I have something to say so why bother.


I restored what was left of your account some time ago. There was no promise involved, I just restored what I was able to find in the database. It is missing an email address so that is why you can't log on with any credentials. IIRC you were to send me your email address, I don't believe I ever got it, but I may have missed it. Send it and I'll update your account. Frankly I don't know what happened to your account. If I were to guess I would say it had something to do with a database crash that occurred sometime ago.
Post Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:16 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
Timmy C wrote:
sandman-therealone wrote:
As for me, these guys deleted my account some time ago for no reason, so I can no longer claim any past contribution. Oh well...


If this "sandman" is your account, then, well, it's still here: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=26181

Since there hasn't been anything posted from it since 2009, we'd suggest you doublecheck your password and email.


If what you say is true, that is, you guys did not delete my account / you did not delete all my posts from the last 10 years or so, and my last message is indeed from 2009, perhaps you might want to explain how come bucketfoot-al answered me in December 1st, 2018 (see page 148 of this topic)?
I could search for other "recent" replies to my messages in my fellows posts but that would be pointless. We already had this conversation last year and although you guys admitted that my account wad probably deleted in error and there was a promise that the account will be restored, well, for the record, I can't login to my "sandman" account using the credentials I used for years. If you indeed restored the account, you probably did not restore the credentials associated with it and that makes it useless. But then again, I don't have a problem to post as a guest when I have something to say so why bother.
Post Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:33 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
SeanF wrote:
Well... could you say it's a little earlier in 1945, and not specifically during Ten-ichigo? Could possibly justify the crane tower (and bare wood decking, fir that matter) that way.
- Sean F.


I'll buy that!!! :woo_hoo: :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:18 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
sandman-therealone wrote:
As for me, these guys deleted my account some time ago for no reason, so I can no longer claim any past contribution. Oh well...


If this "sandman" is your account, then, well, it's still here: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=26181

Since there hasn't been anything posted from it since 2009, we'd suggest you doublecheck your password and email.
Post Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:06 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
Well... could you say it's a little earlier in 1945, and not specifically during Ten-ichigo? Could possibly justify the crane tower (and bare wood decking, fir that matter) that way.
- Sean F.
Post Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:31 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
sandman-therealone wrote:
Hello bucketfoot-al,
You know I was referring to you. You, Chuck and few other guys here were banging the heads to the wall for years, trying to get people see the obvious. Many of the things pointed out on this very topic ended up eventually being considered in the latest commercial kits, all advertised as "latest research" of course.
As for me, these guys deleted my account some time ago for no reason, so I can no longer claim any past contribution. Oh well...


Yeah - every time I look at my Nichimo Yamato each Summer I have thoughts about removing the crane tower ... and then I look at all that photoetch and wires all over the place ... and I get cold feet. We'll see what happens ... now that I've thought about it I am 99% sure that I didn't find out about the tower having been removed til after I was done ... also missed adding an extra pair of AA fire control directors that had been added for Ten-ichigo ... it was such a bloody complicated build ... :mad_1:
Post Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:42 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
Hello bucketfoot-al,
You know I was referring to you. You, Chuck and few other guys here were banging the heads to the wall for years, trying to get people see the obvious. Many of the things pointed out on this very topic ended up eventually being considered in the latest commercial kits, all advertised as "latest research" of course.
As for me, these guys deleted my account some time ago for no reason, so I can no longer claim any past contribution. Oh well...
Post Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:25 am
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sandman-therealone wrote:
It looks to me that people still don't get it. The only reason there was a tower over the aft crane was to keep the aft rigging (mast to stern pole) clear from the crane's arm during crane operation. Once that crane tower was removed (1945) all the aft rigging went out as well.
I keep seeing beautiful and fairly accurate 1945 builds but for some unknown reasons they keep adding the aft rigging.
Use your heads guys. This is not even about basic engineering but pure common sense.


*TRUTH*

After the tower was removed (to give the #3 turret an unobstructed field of fire) the rigging ended up attached to the top of secondary battery "B" antennae, located just aft and above Main Battery #3.

As an aside - when I did my custom 1/200 Nichimo Yamato build back in 2007, I decided to keep the crane tower for purely aesthetic reasons. (Or it just may not have been clear to me yet that the tower wasn't there for Operation Ten-ichigo - I can't remember exactly).

I would probably dispense with it if I had to do it over again, but I am too afraid of screwing something up on my finished model - so its not going anywhere.

But Yamato does look more modern and sleek with the crane tower removed, I'll give you that. :big_grin:
Post Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:10 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
It looks to me that people still don't get it. The only reason there was a tower over the aft crane was to keep the aft rigging (mast to stern pole) clear from the crane's arm during crane operation. Once that crane tower was removed (1945) all the aft rigging went out as well.
I keep seeing beautiful and fairly accurate 1945 builds but for some unknown reasons they keep adding the aft rigging.
Use your heads guys. This is not even about basic engineering but pure common sense.
Post Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:04 pm
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Timmy C wrote:
You can see a brief mention (and photos of kits parts and instructions) for 78031 (that's the newer one of the old kit) on Hobby Search: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10215283

In sum, it's got new plastic parts for the mast and a new display stand. You can compare the photos there with your own kit. But essentially, aftermarket meant for the Tamiya kits BEFORE the new-tooled $300 Yamato should work.


Thank you for your kind help!

Does anyone have information about the Flyhawk 350169 set? Review maybe?
Post Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:49 am
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Does anyone know if any 1/350 aftermarket Yamato capstans are available to buy. Resin or PE? Non of the upgrade kits seem to have them
Post Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:43 am
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You can see a brief mention (and photos of kits parts and instructions) for 78031 (that's the newer one of the old kit) on Hobby Search: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10215283

In sum, it's got new plastic parts for the mast and a new display stand. You can compare the photos there with your own kit. But essentially, aftermarket meant for the Tamiya kits BEFORE the new-tooled $300 Yamato should work.
Post Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:04 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Yamato & Musashi fans  Reply with quote
Dear All!

I have the old Tamiya 1/350 Musashi, box number 78016. I am looking for aftermarket parts for this kit, but almost every upgrade set are for 78031 and 78004. I know the Nr. 16 has some new parts, but could not find any comparison of these kits, what parts are added/upgraded.
Btw, can you give me some hint about, what PE sets should I buy for this kit?

Thank you in advance!

Regards,
Attila
Post Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:45 am

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