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Topic review - Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans  Reply with quote
Hi Jack,

Thank you so much for your very kind words about my painting.. sorry that I am slow to say it. By the way I completely agree with your sentiments about dark grey antifoul on HOOD. I also repainted the red hull on my own model and I have also come to like the effect more. Actually, the more I look at it, the more sense it seems to make in this colour.. it just feels right to me.

There are quite a few well known maritime artists I can think of based in Australia. Ian Hansen's name is one immediately coming to mind.

Take care.. and I am sure there will be much more interesting conversation to come on this thread.

Best regards,

Joseph
Post Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:24 am
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It is wonderful to return to this thread and see the developments. Leading up to the 24th I reminded myself of the significance of the date, and have been surprised and amazed by the developments here. Joseph, your painting literally took my breath away! I was immediately drawn to the cross and innately understood the meaning.

Some years ago I encountered an older fellow with a maritime painting of Prince of Wales, and got talking. It is extremely unlikely to see anyone carrying a painting here in Australia; less so a maritime one; even less so of a ship I knew. I ended up lending him a model I had made of Hood and he gifted me a beautiful painting of Hood in the Grand Harbour at Malta. The colours jumped out from the painting and she was alive! What a wonderful fellow.

Thank you all for the continuing development and discussion of the colours and materials present on Hood. The discussion on the semtex and linoleum is of great value to the progression of my model. I have painted the lower hull grey, and am really happy with the contrast in the greys. From a distance it does not detract from the model at all, but rather makes her look more futuristic, like a space ship model! All the builders models over the last century showing us their grey undersides... hiding in plain sight.

The videos done by the Orkney International Festival have been wonderful too - had the time to see two of them now. Ian's talk on the building of Hood and his taking us through the John Brown photographs was incredible. So much of the work was really tailored, in metal. I showed my young carpenter the loftsmen's (sp?) using of a wood frame to mark out the flowing shape of a section of sheet metal aft, later to be taken back and made into a custom fit metal sheet, and that did really stand out as some bespoke work. A talk of old family history back into Glasgow, what he knew of it's pub scene, and what a 'Glasgow Kiss' was followed, with quite a bit of laughter!

All I can say is "thank you" to all of you for the input, accumulation of knowledge, and willingness to discuss.
Post Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 3:51 am
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pascalemod wrote:

Love it! Indeed great attention to detail discussed here, hull and all.

And I really like the moment you picked - I am sure it is tempting to display something more dramatic but you picked the seconds before disaster, the gloomy weather and the glow coming off from the fire on the boat deck. Much stronger impact if you look at it longer.



Hi Pascalemod,

I am delighted for your reply. I honestly think John Hamilton's piece was more dramatic - but this is a painting of HOOD afterall - and I wanted to have her in one piece. I also can't claim to have the only motif of the last few seconds - Paul Wright RSMA already gave something similar to the world a number or years ago with his wonderful piece. The first time I ever saw that, at the Portsmouth Historic Dockyard, that dreadful foreshadowing red glow really made my stomach turn. But the long reflection of the fire, vertically down the foreground, is meant to lead the eye upward to the 'cross' in my work. If all that has made the right impact for you then I am very glad - and also thankful for your comment :)

Thank you again.

Best regards,

Joseph
Post Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:45 pm
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Cag wrote:
Hi All,

Hi Joseph, well credit where it is due, it is a great piece of art, Frank, José and PaulC are extremely knowledgeable in Hood and Denmark Strait matters, so to get their blessing means a lot.

Well done again

Best wishes
Cag.


Hi Cag,

You are right - and I think I had already conceded further up in this thread that I was humbled at the extent of knowledge on these message boards. That being said I hope I never conveyed anything that may have been misinterpreted as thinking I knew more.. and of course I will humbly admit that there will be inaccuracies in this painting which may yet transpire. The pursuit of accurate portrayal of battle scenes is an information minefield. Entire volumes of information are transposed - and then different volumes are seldom in agreement anyway. Thankfully we can offer 'license' for some degree of leeway - although I am really trying not to hide behind that!

Thank you again for all your kind words and also your generous replies to the queries I had further up that was hugely appreciated.

PaulC wrote:
Absolutely mesmerizing work Joseph - so emotive and it's all enhanced by the detail you put into depicting Hood.

We are frozen in a moment, yet feel the action and the dread anticipation of what's about to happen.

I agree with Jose'. One of, if not the best I've seen! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:


Hi Paul,

Sorry for my slow replies.. I owe you a message reply and will get to that.. but I am grateful for your very kind words. The composition probably was the result of an inward compromise and conflict of interests - between wanting to accurately depict the violence of events for what they were - and pining to show the lines of this beautiful ship which I love so dearly. For example I was thankful to offer the explanation of the likely damage from a 38cm shell hit to HOOD's spotting top just not being visible from this angle - I couldn't bring myself to mar that tophammer which is such a prominent feature of the ship. It was even difficult to reconcile obscuring most of her quarter deck with the big plume of water to the right - but I felt that it was necessary (n/b: placing the ship in motion between two stationery objects is also a classical device in painting to illustrate speed and motion - so does have a purpose here). But the dread of anticipation as you put it, was exactly what I was hoping to illustrate, thereby I am very grateful for your reply!

Thank you again - and will be in touch shortly.

Best,

Joseph
Post Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:33 pm
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José M. Rico wrote:
Wow! Absolutely outstanding work, Joseph!
The final result is much better than I expected.
The attention you put to detail... without any doubt one of the best paintings I have seen of the battle.

José


Dear José,

Thank you so much my friend. I am honestly charmed for your very kind words - and there are already many excellent paintings of the Denmark Strait from the British side, mostly by artists who have earned their reputations to be far better known than I may ever be, so your compliment is not one that I take lightly!

Having messaged with you privately about this piece before I could release it I am glad that you have been able to see it.. As for anticipation etc; I think when compared with the DKM PRINZ EUGEN and DKM BISMARCK piece that you had already seen - this new work is honestly the result of an additional 10 years worth of practice. As such it may appear to be an evolved step up. That being said - I will always be happy with whatever best effort I could make at the time - but will admit that maritime artwork is a very steep learning curve to stand on. Interestingly this is also the first time I have returned to the fighting steel genre since that painting of DKM PRINZ EUGEN - having been working mostly on merchant sail and also fighting sail in more recent years. This all being said the steelship genre is very close to my heart and I am really hoping to get a few more done as my next works. I have always wanted to help tell the stories of these men so others would know and appreciate what they have done for us; regardless of what side of history they stood on - gallantry is gallantry. This being said, it would be nice to approach a more cheerful motif of HMS HOOD next time - because honestly, this last piece made me very sad to actually paint it and have it infront of me for so long.

I will look forward to sharing more of these with you and meanwhile of course I would be honoured if you wanted to use the image in any way that was helpful to your own endeavors. You have my full permission of course.

Lastly my apologies for a slow reply - it has been a busy week..

Thanks again,

Joseph
Post Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:02 pm
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Hi All,

Hi Joseph, well credit where it is due, it is a great piece of art, Frank, José and PaulC are extremely knowledgeable in Hood and Denmark Strait matters, so to get their blessing means a lot.

Well done again

Best wishes
Cag.
Post Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:08 am
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Absolutely mesmerizing work Joseph - so emotive and it's all enhanced by the detail you put into depicting Hood.

We are frozen in a moment, yet feel the action and the dread anticipation of what's about to happen.

I agree with Jose'. One of, if not the best I've seen! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 8:44 pm
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Joseph R wrote:
Sirs, Ma'ams,

On this the day the 80th anniversary of the loss of HMS HOOD, in commemoration of the 1,429 brave souls lost in both ships, 1,415 from HMS HOOD alone, please may I present the painting which I have finally completed, entitled :

"HIS MAJESTY'S SHIPS HOOD AND PRINCE OF WALES, Engaged off Iceland, 0600hrs May 24th 1941 - 'The Final Sacrifice' - At The Battle of the Denmark Strait"
An original oil on linen, 1050mm x 550mm.

If you are seeing this here then the scene depicted probably needs no introduction, nor does technical detail need too much explanation. In brief however I have illustrated HMS HOOD with the slightest inclination of a roll to Starboard; indicating she is just entering her final turn, with the "two-blue" signal still bent and streaming aloft. This is obviously meant to depict the last few seconds before we lost HMS HOOD. The afterglow of the fire on the boat deck illuminates a holy cross on her maintopmast & yard, giving title to the painting, which is also named after Holst's 'I Vow to Thee'.

Thank you once more to those who wrote in helping with the numerous technical queries I had. I hope that you will enjoy and appreciate seeing this work. If you would like to get on to the rolodex email for the formal release, would you please write to me via private message and I would be happy to add you to that.

Lastly, please note that Artist's Copyright strictly applies to the image contained herein this post.

Best regards,

Joseph Reindler, Maritime Artist
(Somewhere East of Suez)


Love it! Indeed great attention to detail discussed here, hull and all.

And I really like the moment you picked - I am sure it is tempting to display something more dramatic but you picked the seconds before disaster, the gloomy weather and the glow coming off from the fire on the boat deck. Much stronger impact if you look at it longer.
Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 4:47 am
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Joseph R wrote:
Sirs, Ma'ams,

On this the day the 80th anniversary of the loss of HMS HOOD, in commemoration of the 1,429 brave souls lost in both ships, 1,415 from HMS HOOD alone, please may I present the painting which I have finally completed, entitled :

"HIS MAJESTY'S SHIPS HOOD AND PRINCE OF WALES, Engaged off Iceland, 0600hrs May 24th 1941 - 'The Final Sacrifice' - At The Battle of the Denmark Strait"
An original oil on linen, 1050mm x 550mm.

If you are seeing this here then the scene depicted probably needs no introduction, nor does technical detail need too much explanation. In brief however I have illustrated HMS HOOD with the slightest inclination of a roll to Starboard; indicating she is just entering her final turn, with the "two-blue" signal still bent and streaming aloft. This is obviously meant to depict the last few seconds before we lost HMS HOOD. The afterglow of the fire on the boat deck illuminates a holy cross on her maintopmast & yard, giving title to the painting, which is also named after Holst's 'I Vow to Thee'.

Thank you once more to those who wrote in helping with the numerous technical queries I had. I hope that you will enjoy and appreciate seeing this work. If you would like to get on to the rolodex email for the formal release, would you please write to me via private message and I would be happy to add you to that.

Lastly, please note that Artist's Copyright strictly applies to the image contained herein this post.

Best regards,

Joseph Reindler, Maritime Artist
(Somewhere East of Suez)

Wow! Absolutely outstanding work, Joseph!
The final result is much better than I expected.
The attention you put to detail... without any doubt one of the best paintings I have seen of the battle.

José
Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 8:55 pm
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paulcolt wrote:

BEAUTIFUL WORK!!!!!


Thank you Paul!

Cag wrote:
Hi All,

Hi Joseph, a beautiful work and a truly fitting commemorative piece, very well done,

Best wishes
Cag.


Hi Cag, many thanks for your kind words. We got there in the end eh. I am glad to have been able to share the work with you.


FW_Allen wrote:
A most excellent painting Joseph!

Frank


Thank you again Frank. And again I will reiterate that the work you have done putting as much valuable research material as you have online has been a tremendous help and I really appreciate it. I hope that this picture will suffice for something in return..

Best regards,

Joseph
Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 6:31 am
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Joseph R wrote:
Sirs, Ma'ams,

On this the day the 80th anniversary of the loss of HMS HOOD, in commemoration of the 1,429 brave souls lost in both ships, 1,415 from HMS HOOD alone, please may I present the painting which I have finally completed, entitled :

"HIS MAJESTY'S SHIPS HOOD AND PRINCE OF WALES, Engaged off Iceland, 0600hrs May 24th 1941 - 'The Final Sacrifice' - At The Battle of the Denmark Strait"
An original oil on linen, 1050mm x 550mm.

If you are seeing this here then the scene depicted probably needs no introduction, nor does technical detail need too much explanation. In brief however I have illustrated HMS HOOD with the slightest inclination of a roll to Starboard; indicating she is just entering her final turn, with the "two-blue" signal still bent and streaming aloft. This is obviously meant to depict the last few seconds before we lost HMS HOOD. The afterglow of the fire on the boat deck illuminates a holy cross on her maintopmast & yard, giving title to the painting, which is also named after Holst's 'I Vow to Thee'.

Thank you once more to those who wrote in helping with the numerous technical queries I had. I hope that you will enjoy and appreciate seeing this work. If you would like to get on to the rolodex email for the formal release, would you please write to me via private message and I would be happy to add you to that.

Lastly, please note that Artist's Copyright strictly applies to the image contained herein this post.

Best regards,

Joseph Reindler, Maritime Artist
(Somewhere East of Suez)


A most excellent painting Joseph!

Frank
Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 2:00 pm
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Hi All,

Hi Joseph, a beautiful work and a truly fitting commemorative piece, very well done,

Best wishes
Cag.
Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 8:45 am
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Joseph R wrote:
Sirs, Ma'ams,

On this the day the 80th anniversary of the loss of HMS HOOD, in commemoration of the 1,429 brave souls lost in both ships, 1,415 from HMS HOOD alone, please may I present the painting which I have finally completed, entitled :

"HIS MAJESTY'S SHIPS HOOD AND PRINCE OF WALES, Engaged off Iceland, 0600hrs May 24th 1941 - 'The Final Sacrifice' - At The Battle of the Denmark Strait"
An original oil on linen, 1050mm x 550mm.

If you are seeing this here then the scene depicted probably needs no introduction, nor does technical detail need too much explanation. In brief however I have illustrated HMS HOOD with the slightest inclination of a roll to Starboard; indicating she is just entering her final turn, with the "two-blue" signal still bent and streaming aloft. This is obviously meant to depict the last few seconds before we lost HMS HOOD. The afterglow of the fire on HOOD's boat deck illuminates a holy cross on HOOD's maintopmast & yard, giving title to the painting, which is also named after Holst's 'I Vow to Thee'.

Thank you once more to those who wrote in helping with the numerous technical queries I had. I hope that you will enjoy and appreciate seeing this work. If you would like to get on to the rolodex email for the formal release, would you please write to me via private message and I would be happy to add you to that.

Lastly, please note that Artist's Copyright strictly applies to the image contained herein this post.

Best regards,

Joseph Reindler, Maritime Artist
(Somewhere East of Suez)





BEAUTIFUL WORK!!!!!
Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 5:27 am
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Sirs, Ma'ams,

On this the day the 80th anniversary of the loss of HMS HOOD, in commemoration of the 1,429 brave souls lost in both ships, 1,415 from HMS HOOD alone, please may I present the painting which I have finally completed, entitled :

"HIS MAJESTY'S SHIPS HOOD AND PRINCE OF WALES, Engaged off Iceland, 0600hrs May 24th 1941 - 'The Final Sacrifice' - At The Battle of the Denmark Strait"
An original oil on linen, 1050mm x 550mm.

If you are seeing this here then the scene depicted probably needs no introduction, nor does technical detail need too much explanation. In brief however I have illustrated HMS HOOD with the slightest inclination of a roll to Starboard; indicating she is just entering her final turn, with the "two-blue" signal still bent and streaming aloft. This is obviously meant to depict the last few seconds before we lost HMS HOOD. The afterglow of the fire on the boat deck illuminates a holy cross on her maintopmast & yard, giving title to the painting, which is also named after Holst's 'I Vow to Thee'.

Thank you once more to those who wrote in helping with the numerous technical queries I had. I hope that you will enjoy and appreciate seeing this work. If you would like to get on to the rolodex email for the formal release, would you please write to me via private message and I would be happy to add you to that.

Lastly, please note that Artist's Copyright strictly applies to the image contained herein this post.

Best regards,

Joseph Reindler, Maritime Artist
(Somewhere East of Suez)


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Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 5:01 am
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Guest wrote:
Chuck,

Re: Your Post of 15 May, 6.01pm

Essentially, yes. Images of the ship taken shortly before departing from John Brown's yard for trials show them and their canvas covers as being painted a "medium" grey, the same as the hull and superstructure. However, the metal of each winch's warping drum was probably left unpainted. I don't know if the colour ever changed after 1920/21: a trawl of the HOOD website photographs may reveal something.

Incidentally, a "wench" (I can't work out how your typo occurred) is an English rustic term for a girl or unmarried young woman.


:heh:

I thought that might be the case, rouge and lipstick being in short supply in times of war.
Post Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 5:13 pm
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Discussions are starded.

Discussion with Commander William Sutherland RN (retired), Commander David Hobbs, MBE RN (retired), Graeme Lunn, and Rob White.

Introduced by Captain Chris Smith, Regional Commander RN Scotland and Northern Ireland.

https://youtu.be/Bdgl5kL4eyg

Post Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 1:44 pm
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Awesome! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Also note that the annua memorial service for Hood's crew will be held on Monday May 24 at 12:15 pm UK time, streamed on FB and Youtube.

And there's the "Shine a Light" memorial for Hood's lost crew members which everyone can participate in if you can and would like to.

See http://www.hmshood.org.uk/index.php for details.

For me, in Jamaica, Monday is a public holiday so I'll be up early to watch the service on Youtube! :big_grin:

We will remember them!

Paul
Post Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 10:19 am
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80 years since the loss of HMS Hood.

Moya McDonald

May 6, 2021

NEWS, Online events: Remembering HMS Hood

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On May 21st it will be exactly 80 years since HMS sailed from Scapa Flow on her final voyage. Three days later she was sunk by the Bismarck in a sequence of events that led to the end of the great German battleship as well. The Hood was so renowned that her loss was a national shock, and story of her life, from construction to the final days, will be told in an programme of events by the group Another Orkney Production on 21-22 May for their annual ‘Celebrating Scapa Flow’. Moya McDonald of AOP outlines the plans and the background......

More here: http://frontiersmagazine.org/80-years-s ... -hms-hood/


https://youtu.be/Bdgl5kL4eyg


https://youtu.be/EN19dBgOJII


https://youtu.be/2vZ2zD3nSDY


https://youtu.be/aFh5EYMWKbg


https://youtu.be/2vZ2zD3nSDY


https://youtu.be/TnsahywjFxs


https://youtu.be/6bw3Q16ZifA
Post Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 3:59 am
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I was also thinking if you painted a wench she may not be too impressed with you.. but could have been some extension of 'if it moves, salute it - if it doesn't, paint it'..
Post Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:47 pm
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As in a "fine wench"! "Spel Chequrs" often stubbornly think they know best, mine has troubles with SKEG which it convolutes to KEG, as in "maybe the serving wench will tap the keg for us"?
Post Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:26 pm

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