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Topic review - Calling all IJN Mogami (最上) class fans
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  Post subject:  Re: 1/350 Mikuma P/E?  Reply with quote
Good to know. Thx.
Post Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:19 pm
  Post subject:  Re: 1/350 Mikuma P/E?  Reply with quote
Dan K wrote:
That's good. What does the WEM set provide that the MK1 does not?

PE for the triple turrets, and the early turret antenna masts. I was thinking that I would need to get a Yamato set for the turret pe. And early mainmast parts.
Post Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:08 pm
  Post subject:  Re: 1/350 Mikuma P/E?  Reply with quote
That's good. What does the WEM set provide that the MK1 does not?
Post Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:45 am
  Post subject:  Re: 1/350 Mikuma P/E?  Reply with quote
Well, FedEx just delivered the WEM Mogami PE that I ordered for Mogami, and it has details for all 3 versions. So between the Mk1 set, and the WEM set, Mikuma is covered.
Post Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:49 pm
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Dan K wrote:
At one point, Eduard had sets for the CL version, but these may be OOP.

The MK1 Design set for Mogami is probably the most cost effective Mogami set to use.

I thought that might the case, already have that set.
Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:30 pm
  Post subject:  Re: 1/350 Mikuma P/E?  Reply with quote
At one point, Eduard had sets for the CL version, but these may be OOP.

The MK1 Design set for Mogami is probably the most cost effective Mogami set to use.
Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:08 pm
  Post subject:  1/350 Mikuma P/E?  Reply with quote
Looking around, and I'm finding any etch for the Tamiya Mikuma CL. Has any been made, or am I going to have to use a Mogami CA set?
Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:35 am
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Dan K wrote:
Yes, plus the radio aerials atop the turrets.

Excellent, thanks Dan.
Post Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:11 pm
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Yes, plus the radio aerials atop the turrets.


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Mogami 1940 to 42.jpg
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Post Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:39 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Mogami (最上) class fans  Reply with quote
So I've decided to build all 3 versions of Mogami in 1/350. I have the Tamiya Mikuma CL and all-gun Mogami, with the aircraft carrying Mogami on order. If I understand correctly, the only mods to convert Mikuma to Mogami is to rebuild the mainmast, similar to Mikuma but taller. Is this right?
Post Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:22 pm
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Dan K wrote:
Concerns about excessive topweight. She and Maya never got the the extensive rebuild that Takao & Atago received because of timing. The escalating war situation and busy yards made it impossible to schedule the rebuilds. So, she never got the additional bulges and reduced superstructure that would have accommodated the new armament. That's also why she never received quad TT mounts and reloads.



From what i saw on the underwater footage the easiest upgrade was the addition of single 25 mm MG all over her decks. Hard to believe they didn't replace the doubles for triples.. Thanks Dan!





Jose :wave_1:
Post Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:13 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Mogami Class Fans  Reply with quote
Concerns about excessive topweight. She and Maya never got the the extensive rebuild that Takao & Atago received because of timing. The escalating war situation and busy yards made it impossible to schedule the rebuilds. So, she never got the additional bulges and reduced superstructure that would have accommodated the new armament. That's also why she never received quad TT mounts and reloads.
Post Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:43 am
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Dan K wrote:
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These guns are sitting in plain sight there is no shield housing whatsoever i found this most interesting.


I think it likely that those shields were torn away on the way to the bottom.




Dan any idea why the navy never upgraded the ship with the new Type 89?




Jose :wave_1:
Post Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:37 pm
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These guns are sitting in plain sight there is no shield housing whatsoever i found this most interesting.


I think it likely that those shields were torn away on the way to the bottom.
Post Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:22 pm
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ijnfleetadmiral wrote:
Bridge structure was beat up because she took two direct hits from 8-inch shells in that area. Killed the CO, XO, and most of the senior officers.



If that's the case i think that bridge looks wonderful after those 2 hits and decades underwater!




Jose :wave_1:
Post Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:46 pm
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[quote="Dan K"]As I believe you're aware, Jose, topweight became a big concern after the 4th Fleet incidents. The Mogami class original design had a much larger bridge structure - see below.

I remember seeing that drawing on my Mogami class Kajinsha book but given my Japanese is awful i never really understood what was being explained here. I thought it was the opposite as a matter of fact, i thought the navy wanted to make their main bridge structures bigger. I remember reading about the nasty typhoon years ago but i honestly forgot. Thanks for the history lesson though :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: BTW, i was watching Chokai's underwater video and Petrel snatched some great shots of the single HA 45 cal guns. These guns are sitting in plain sight there is no shield housing whatsoever i found this most interesting.



Jose :wave_1:
Post Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:38 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Mogami Class Fans  Reply with quote
As I believe you're aware, Jose, topweight became a big concern after the 4th Fleet incidents. The Mogami class original design had a much larger bridge structure - see below.

Btw, for those that were waiting, Fujimi is releasing the other 1/700 sisters. Looks promising:

Kumano 1944 - https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10628812

Suzuya 1944 - https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10628810

MIkuma 1942 - https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10635011

Mogami 1942 - https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10635006


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Mogani & Takao class bridge, original vs final designs, GPS IJN Cruiser vol, p113.jpg
Mogani & Takao class bridge, original vs final designs, GPS IJN Cruiser vol, p113.jpg [ 330.18 KiB | Viewed 6261 times ]
Post Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:18 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Mogami Class Fans  Reply with quote
Bridge structure was beat up because she took two direct hits from 8-inch shells in that area. Killed the CO, XO, and most of the senior officers.
Post Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:58 pm
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Thanks for the heads up Dan :thumbs_up_1: It was great to see the ship sitting up right. Bridge structure got beat up pretty bad but i could still make out the wind baffles layout. These were very puny structures compared to the Takao's.




Jose :wave_1:
Post Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:28 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all IJN Mogami Class Fans  Reply with quote
A couple of pics


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Mogami sonar scan 1, May 2019.jpg
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Mogami sonar scan 2, May 2019.jpg
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Mogami anchor chain and deck covering #1 main turret, May 2019.jpg
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Mogami #2 main turret, May 2019.jpg
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Mogami 25mm AA, May 2019.jpg
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Mogami navigation postition atop bridge, May 2019.jpg
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Mogami portside triple TT mount, May 2019.jpg
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