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Topic review - Calling all USS Pensacola & USS Salt Lake City fans!
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Mike, email sent about those plans.
Post Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 8:48 pm
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Looks good. I wish I had plans for what was in the open areas under the gun deck. Looks like torpedo launchers forward, but I have no idea of the rest.
Post Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:52 pm
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Impressively crisp detail for that scale.
Post Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 6:50 pm
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Like the prewar look of these Cruisers so much ...

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Post Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 2:34 pm
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Mike C wrote:
I just posted this on Steel Navy, so I might as well post it here, too:

I started on a pattern for both the Pensacola and Salt Lake City (the hulls have minor differences), but then heard of someone doing a 3D one, so I set mine aside.

I have decided to go ahead with at least one of each, as soon as I get two other project out of the way that are near completion.

My intent is to do applicable versions for the Battle of the Kormandorky Islands (CA-25),the Battle of Tassafaronga (CA-24) and then go from there. Any suggestions are welcomed, if they include a diagram or description of AA and radar fit. I have the plans from Warship International, the Profile Morskie book, some photos from the Floating Drydock, and some others that I have collected online. I also plan to comb the CASF thread on MW for information, but if you have any drawings or photos you'd like to contribute, you can send them to mikecap07 (AT) gmail (DOT) com and I'll give your contribution credit in the instructions.

My kit will include etch and I'm hoping to include 3D small parts, if I can find a reliable source.

I have seen both the HP, Classic Warships and its updated Midship version and all are inaccurate or crude (hand scribed deck planks on the HP kit?), so I have also felt that there is a hole needing to be filled.

This is a public statement, so I am committed to it now. I'll post updates as they become available.


Mike, I'm looking forward to getting these new Corsair Armada products when they become available.
Post Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:46 pm
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I just posted this on Steel Navy, so I might as well post it here, too:

I started on a pattern for both the Pensacola and Salt Lake City (the hulls have minor differences), but then heard of someone doing a 3D one, so I set mine aside.

I have decided to go ahead with at least one of each, as soon as I get two other project out of the way that are near completion.

My intent is to do applicable versions for the Battle of the Kormandorky Islands (CA-25),the Battle of Tassafaronga (CA-24) and then go from there. Any suggestions are welcomed, if they include a diagram or description of AA and radar fit. I have the plans from Warship International, the Profile Morskie book, some photos from the Floating Drydock, and some others that I have collected online. I also plan to comb the CASF thread on MW for information, but if you have any drawings or photos you'd like to contribute, you can send them to mikecap07 (AT) gmail (DOT) com and I'll give your contribution credit in the instructions.

My kit will include etch and I'm hoping to include 3D small parts, if I can find a reliable source.

I have seen both the HP, Classic Warships and its updated Midship version and all are inaccurate or crude (hand scribed deck planks on the HP kit?), so I have also felt that there is a hole needing to be filled.

This is a public statement, so I am committed to it now. I'll post updates as they become available.
Post Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:00 pm
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Here's another annoying Wiki error that probably needs to be fixed. This photo (from Australian sources) purports to be HOUSTON escorting the Timor Relief Convoy in Feb. 1942, but it is not...The distinguishing swayback hull line, 2 aft turrets and more pronounced clipper bow all point to PENSY.

The convoy is the famed one named after her. Transport to the R is quite likely CHAUMONT, but the one to L is a mystery to me. Any ideas welcome.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:51 pm
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Found this picture while researching destroyer tenders. Salt Lake City after the Battle of the Komandorski Islands.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/04/025/0402545.jpg
Post Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:03 pm
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If anyone is interested, I've got the HP Models 1/700 USS Pensacola (1941), available in the trade section of the forum. Check the post out if interested.

thanks
Mike
Post Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:53 am
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Anyone know of and/or have plans for the Pensacola around late 1942?
Post Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 3:49 pm
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Interesting, thanks. I just assumed they had to be there but I guess I'll leave them out. There are definitely director tubs for the 1.1" quads on the stern, but I can't work out if they're empty!
Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:50 am
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Vlad wrote:
I'm building Pensacola in 1942 and one thing has me a bit stumped. Where are the directors located for the 1.1" quad mounts on the bridge wings?
It is possible that she didn't have any. Not all 1.1 mounts had directors. Quincy had them, Vincennes did not. Astoria got 4 director tubs when the 1.1's were installed, but she only got directors a month before she was lost, and then only on the bridge. Her stern director tubs were empty when she was sunk. Yorktown never had any.
Post Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:28 pm
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I'm building Pensacola in 1942 and one thing has me a bit stumped. Where are the directors located for the 1.1" quad mounts on the bridge wings?
Post Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:24 am
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At least it is still possible to find some historical information. A lot has been lost.

The USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 fired the first successful combat surface-to-surface missile and the first ARM (anti-radar) shot in US Navy history, but the Navy and the Archives have lost all records of it. It happened in February 1972 off North Vietnam. No one in the Navy Historical Center gives a damn.

Phil
Post Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:00 pm
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Things have certainly changed since I was sending print requests. Many of the changes happened because of budget and related staffing issues. Other measures were taken to preserve the collection and to try to curb rampant pilfering that was allegedly happening. In the end, it became too much of a hassle to try to do it by mail from the left coast.

There were also changes in the paper used for prints, going from the much more detailed bromide prints that had to go through the drum driers, to the resin-coated film that air dried. I still marvel at details and depths of field captured by the large-format 8" x 10" cameras used at Mare Island. I have one photo of Holland in 1943 where you can see the logo of the refinery on the storage tanks far in the background.

It's an odd paradox that more stuff is being found, but it's much harder to get to now.

Thanks for the insights, Rick.
Post Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:18 am
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Reproduction of images at NARA has been changing. For about 20-years (give or take), there were at least five vendors authorized to scan prints and negatives/transparencies IN-HOUSE at NARA-College Park for customers for a fee. Before the Vendor Program, NARA staff did the reproduction via the good "OLD" film-to-print processing. The Vendors did excellent work, if the original was in good shape. (Some negatives at NARA were actually made by using a camera to copy the original print so that more prints could be made, when the original negative was unavailable) However, the vendor program was ended in September 2016.

Researchers have been allowed to go to NARA and scan B&W prints at no cost, other than buying scanning equipment and getting to NARA for years. Or you can use a digital camera to copy a print at poorer quality than via scanning. But, B&W Negatives can ONLY be scanned with authorized equipment AND only if a GOOD print doesn't exist in one of the print collections. You have to VERIFY that there is NO PRINT available, and that can take work to research through multiple collections. Color images from the USN 80-GK and US Army Signal Corp (SC-111) collections can only be scanned from the copy slides made many years ago, unless special authorization is given. And then ONLY from the NARA furnished scanner and software. Negatives and Transparencies are kept in cold storage to preserve them. It is extra work for the NARA staff to retrieve and bring back to room temp before they can be scanned.

You can also "hire" a NARA registered "Pro-Reseacher" to scan prints for you. But, they will charge for researching (finding it if it exists) and then scan it to your requirements (dpi, digital or print, etc).
Post Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:15 pm
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This photo of SLC was taken just after the Battle of the Komandorskis...
Post Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:40 pm
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Can I assume this photo was taken before the Battle of the Komandorski Islands?

There was a time when NARA printed photos in-house and you could request for them to print for detail from the negatives. I did that a few times back then, but I haven't ordered prints recently. Martin's photo would have been a great candidate for that. Sadly, I believe they're all out-sourced now, so I don't know what kind of latitude you have with ordering prints.
Post Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:55 pm
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Salt Lake City in Alaskan waters, March 1943:
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Post Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:39 pm
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I suspect that making them smaller in design (diameter) would have further compromised stability. Also from a design and cost perspective it makes sense. Just my opinion based on my naval architecture and mechanical engineering background.
Post Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:43 pm

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