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Topic review - Calling all RN Leander (Amphion) & D-class fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all RN Leander (Amphion) & D-class fans  Reply with quote
Fantastic info thanks Brett and look forwards to ordering the book! Just at the stage of collating resources and deciding tine period to model her in.
Thanks again for the rapid response!
Cheers
Dan
Post Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:58 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all RN Leander (Amphion) & D-class fans  Reply with quote
Dan, If you wait until early next year NHSA (Naval Historical Society of Australia) will be re-releasing HMAS Perth in Ebook, it will include new detailed weapons reports, images and colour profiles.
1) The Mk VII quad replaced the Breda`s fitted on the catapult barbette, fitted in early May 41, the Breda`s were moved to the gundeck either side of the S.L. block, NO actual catapult was ever fitted until Sept/Nov 41 refit.
3) No AA guns on Qtrdeck, 2 quad 0.5 Mk II* fitted Sept/Nov 41. Perth was never fitted with any oerlikons for her entire service. The image you may refer to with Mk I oerlikon (no shield) in octagonal bin on qtrdeck is York.
Post Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:55 pm
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Hi all. Aiming to build HMAS Perth in Med in May 1941 (circa crete shenanigans) and keen for input regards AA fit out (tried to find the steel navy discussion re this but couldnt and the perthone website no longer working). The AWM site has several pics but hard to fully piece it together

Q1: I believe quad pom pom had replaced catapult but were the 2 ex-italian bredas still in place on the circumference of this area or where did they go?
Q2: if the breda's were in place were they offset at 1.30 oclock and 730 oclock (1200 being forrard).
Q3: AA on quarterdeck during this period: Various suggestions summarised as
a) Nil except light single machine guns eg lewis
b) oerlikon in gun tub midline
c) offset quad vickers (certainly present present after refit and new paintjob in '42)

Might try and recreate the vaulting horses in the waist with .303 rifles for novelty :)

cheers in advance

dan
Post Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:03 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all RN Leander (Amphion) & D-class fans  Reply with quote
Good shots of Leander, had not seen them before, thanks for posting Martin.
Pity the port shot is incomplete, notice the NZ developed SW and SWG RDF arrays.
Post Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:49 pm
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Same as above, other side.
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Post Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:16 pm
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Leander at Espiritu Santo, April 1943
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Post Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:24 pm
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Thank you! Great pic. Thanks for posting.
Post Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:06 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all RN Leander (Amphion) & D-class fans  Reply with quote
I thought some would be interested in this photo, quite a good one and also very rare indeed.
HMAS Sydney wearing her second camo scheme applied in Sept 41.
Captioned as taken in Geraldton in October 41, one of her very last shots.
This is only the second photo (both port side) of her in this pattern within the public domain.

I have cleaned the photo up, and adjusted the greyscale. It appears on a postcard within the ship history section of the RAN website.


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:10 am
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Cruiser Ajax.
The model presented by Churchill to Hitler in 1935.
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https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/dmir ... 755?page=0
Post Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:37 am
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Hi, Y'all.

Could anyone recommend reference sources, including plans for HMS Achilles &/or Ajax, circa the Graf Spee action?

-Looking at a possible conversion from another Leander-class kit; so both plan and profile views are desired.

Any kits for sale or trade would gladly be considered as well! -pm me

Thanks!
Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:39 pm
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Hi folks,
I want to build my 1/700 NNT HMAS Perth as Hobart. However, I haven't came across any literature on the subject. Any leads on the subject?

I am also gradually acquiring aftermarket for it. Since the boats do not seem to be the strong part of the kit, I've put my eye onto Admiralty Modelworks ones. Is there any info which types of boats and how many of them did Hobart (or any of her class) carry?
Post Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:48 pm
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Many thanks, David.
Very helpful.
Now to come up with some 2pders!

Martin
Post Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:44 am
  Post subject:  HMS Neptune (1941)  Reply with quote
I have the Profile Morskie drawings of Neptune as in 1941. Nice looking plans, though I wonder about thee depth of research that produced them, given the brevity of the bibliography in the booklet. Anyway, I have a couple of questions regarding Neptune in this period.
I know she lost her catapult before she was sunk in December 1941, and it was replaced with a quad pom-pom. Before it was removed, what aircraft would have been carried – still the Seafox, or would it have been a Walrus by 1941?
Second, and directly concerning these PM plans they have as the AA armament the useless 0.5 quad Vickers (amazing that the RN was still using these in 1941) in three positions: abreast the mainmast and on B turret. They also show three single AA guns, two abreast the bridge on the foc’s’le deck, and one abaft the mainmast on top of a small windowed structure (?emergency steering position?). Does anyone know what these guns would have been? The booklet says 40mm: is this likely in 1941? They are too big for 20 mm oerlikons: and I’d say too small for 3 inch HA. Could they be single 2 pders? The design in the drawing looks too, well, British, to be a bofors or oerlikon.
There is a large-scale model of Neptune as she was at the time she was sunk, on the HMS Neptune website. This shows a 20mm oerlikon in the aft position, but I think this was added when at the same time they replaced the catapult.
Any ideas anyone?
Post Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:18 pm
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dick wrote:
I dont think your photo shows Perth.


Dick is quite correct. Although I have a picture of an AA gun claiming to be on the quarterdeck of HMAS Perth, the ship has been incorrectly identified and is actually HMS York.

Please disregard my original post.
Cheers
BC
Post Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:07 am
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I don't remember ever hearing of a 20mm Oerlikon being placed on Perth. She had a Breda that was pinched off the Italians at one point and then had a pair of quad Vicker's 0.5s on the Stern / Quarterdeck. The starboard one of these remains on the wreck today....

Andrew
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Post Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:31 pm
  Post subject:  Re: HMAS Perth - Oerlikon fitted on quarterdeck Feb 1941  Reply with quote
The 20mm OERLIKON would have been in place by early January.

For an exchange on this subject, see Steel Navy messages of recent date between Constable and WR.

A question; Why would you want to see a photo of of a 20mm fitted an the quarterdeck of a cruiser at that time? I don't see how that would help you.

spruso wrote:
Trying to confirm whether the AA gun fitted on the quarterdeck of HMAS Perth in Feb 1941 is an Oerlikon and where it would have come from. Were there spares available in the Med at that time or would it have come from another ship?

Would anyone have a closeup of an Oerlikon gun fitted on the quarterdeck of a british cruiser around that time? I know HMS York had one in 1940-41.

Also any info regarding when these guns were fitted to the cruisers in the Med fleet.
Thanks
BC
Post Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:03 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all RN Leander (Amphion) & D-class fans  Reply with quote
I dont think your photo shows Perth.
Post Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:51 am
  Post subject:  HMAS Perth - Oerlikon fitted on quarterdeck Feb 1941  Reply with quote
Trying to confirm whether the AA gun fitted on the quarterdeck of HMAS Perth in Feb 1941 is an Oerlikon and where it would have come from. Were there spares available in the Med at that time or would it have come from another ship?

Would anyone have a closeup of an Oerlikon gun fitted on the quarterdeck of a british cruiser around that time? I know HMS York had one in 1940-41.

Also any info regarding when these guns were fitted to the cruisers in the Med fleet.
Thanks
BC
Post Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:22 pm
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I'm interested in doing an Airfix 1:600 Ajax conversion to the HMAS Sydney, however the model has not been produced by Airfix since 2006 so I'm having a bit of toruble getting my hands on a model.

Once I get my hands on one, it'll be my next model right after I finish the DKM Bismarck and Hr. Ms. Evertsen.
Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:30 pm
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Hi Guys,

I've been keen to build Perth for a couple of years. We dived her in 2009 and I know some of her survivors.
Unfortunately there are no 1:350 models of her. I am therefore investigating the difficulties of converting the ISW Achilles to represent Perth.
Now, while the plans and the figures say that Perth is a bit over 2 meters longer than Achilles ( and 30cm wider) on the plans from Profile Morskie the inter turret distance appears to be within 1 mm. In fact it is quite difficult to see exactly where the extra length has been added. From what I can tell so far things seem to fit quite well and although it will not technically be exactly correct for length etc. the difference will be imperceptible without the real thing next to it.
Here's where I am up to with this experiment so far. The hull was sent to me in error when I ordered their Exeter model so at worst it will become scrap but if this look promising I will purchase the rest of the kit and give it a go.
Your opinions valued!

Andrew
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Armour extended
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Forward deck reconstructed and rear susperstructure template. Central deck house will probably need to be removed and remade.rear deck house is not quite correct shape but the vents are in the correct position and given that it is under the gun deck it may not be worth changing given the damage that will be done to the deck.
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Rear 4" gun deck template
So far only the starboard side has been modified.
Post Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:00 pm

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