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Topic review - Calling All Deutschland-class (WW2 Panzerschiffe) Fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling All Deutschland-class (WW2 Panzerschiffe) Fans  Reply with quote
Just saw this on a Chinese modeling site - SSModel will be offering a super upgrade set for both the 1/350 and 1/700 Trumpeter Graf Spee kits. Definitely check out the link for all the details - both PE and 3D printed parts: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8380240474


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:48 am
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Post Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:08 pm
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Does anyone know if the sk c28 naval gun was a fully closed or open type?
Post Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:27 pm
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Hello, Im starting to build the Trumpeters Graf Spee in 350 with the Eduard detail set and the ArtwoxModel wooden deck. The first surprise was find that the rear hawse pipe was inverted so I started fixing it.
Another detail I can´t solve are the covers at the sides of the aft deckhouse. They aren´t in the kit but they are in the book Topdrawings. I can´t find a picture with them.

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Another book has a picture of a shipyard drawing that shows something, but I can´t realize if they are opened at the forward side.

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Another detail is that around the plane launcher support is a roof and it isn't in the kit.
Post Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:41 pm
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Uruguay abandons plan to melt, recast Nazi bronze eagle:

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2023/0619/1389889-uruguay-bronze-eagle/
Post Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:58 am
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Admiral Scheer one off aft superstructure... It is not like Spee or Lutzow.
Plans and photos are welcome.
Post Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:35 pm
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I haven't, the ship is slow progress and won't get onto the aircraft for a while.
I'm presuming I won't get hold of the Mikuma kit so may try scratch-building the Heinkel.
Post Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:25 am
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Rob-UK wrote:
Thanks :smallsmile:, good tip, may give that a try (if I can get hold of one).


Did you managed to get a decent result ?
Post Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:19 am
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Thanks :smallsmile:, good tip, may give that a try (if I can get hold of one).
Post Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:17 am
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I would go with an e7k1 seaplane : size and general appearance is very close ! e7k2 is radial engine and e7k1 is inline engine.
wingspan 13,50m vs 14m length 11,50m vs 10,50m (not so noticeable difference).

just some minor cosmetic modifications/cuts/sanding, proper decals and paint scheme should do the trick IMHO.

you can find e7k1 aircrafts in tamiya mikuma model. if someone can give a leftover to you...
Post Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:40 am
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Not sure if this has been asked before, but does anyone know if any 1:350 Heinkel He 60 is available?
Almost all pre-war build of this class would need one if the aircraft is to be included, so would seem a shame if there aren't any.

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c/o cs.wikipedia.org
Post Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:58 am
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Timmy C wrote:
Came by this lovely colour photo on Twitter and thought it'd be a nice confirmation for anyone wanting to do the 1938 Neutrality markings: red towards the gun-end of the turret.


Very helpful, thanks for sharing. I've never seen a colour photo of the German Neutrality Markings before.
Post Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:56 am
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Hadn't seen this image for ages, and just stumbled across accidentally while looking for something else in my Exeter file. Another rather 'haunting' image IMO!

PS. I don't see a Graf Spee thread like this "Calling all HMS York class (HMS Exeter-WWII) fans" in the BB section. And a search does not show one. Is there not one, or am I just not looking in the right place??
:shipcaptain:

EDiT. Obviously I was not looking in right place. :bash_2: So thanks Maarten for moving it across from the Exeter thread! And pardon if it is already in this thread as I havent looked at all pages.

EDIT 2: Below phototo (with some post download 'clean-up' work) originally comes from this photo album at Museums Victoria, Australia.
https://collections.museumsvictoria.com ... icles/6784


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:36 pm
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FRED BRANYAN wrote:
Graf Spee Model Builders,

While researching a model of this ship I have started I got several pubs related to it, some of them pretty old. One pub, Pocket Battleships of the Deutschland Class, had several educational photos in it. One topic, the presumably black boot stripe on all 3 ships of the class was more narrow than as portrayed in the Kagero 3D book, otherwise very accurate best I can figure out. The test shot in the post above came from that book.


A late reply, but in case it is still of some use? There are not may photos of the class in drydock that clearly show the boot topping. Or if there are, I have not seen them. Best one I can think of that clearly shows it is this one from Wikipedia showing the bombed and sunk remains of the Admiral Scheer in 1945:

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She was in overall light grey at the time so the dark grey boot topping stands out well and you can gauge the thickness of the line relative to the rest of the hull.
Post Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:35 pm
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PHOTOS ON THIS POST. By the way other photos in the book show that deck railings were lowered inboard when guns were fired. The stern photo on this post seems to suggest those were lowered outboard. The caption above belongs with the bottom photo. See the very close range photo at this site for a view of how these devices were mounted on the deck.
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See this site for a photo of a black device looking very similar on the port stern of the ship post battle----http://www.sixtant.net/2011/artigos.php?cat=raider-admiral-graf-spee-*-8-ships-sunk&sub=battle-of-the-river-plate-&tag=19)graf-spee-eagle-recovered


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:23 pm
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Graf Spee Model Builders,

While researching a model of this ship I have started I got several pubs related to it, some of them pretty old. One pub, Pocket Battleships of the Deutschland Class, had several educational photos in it. One topic, the presumably black boot stripe on all 3 ships of the class was more narrow than as portrayed in the Kagero 3D book, otherwise very accurate best I can figure out. The test shot in the post above came from that book.

Another topic this ship had smoke generator gizmos on it that seem to have worked like giant smoke grenades.

Before I screw this post up, I will end it and try to post the relevant photos in the next post.
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Post Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:15 pm
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Excellent topic, Fred, I was not aware of such extensive document describing the damage, started checking it yesterday, thank you!

Marco
Post Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
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For anyone else interested in hits to Graf Spee--

Please see this site---
https://cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital ... l8/id/4347

It contains photos and damage descriptions for every hit on Graf Spee, both apparently courtesy of the Uruguay government. My guess is a lot of them have not been on the net before.

The damage to the desal/fuel purification plants is not mentioned. Appears the Germans wisely refused to disclose it. If you take a look at the upper page bars that read xx of 87 I think there are 2 crucial pages to look at--36 of 87 and 47 of 87. Hit 6 seems to be a prime candidate, close to the stack as stated in a few references. If not 6 then 7 seems to be the alternate candidate.
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