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Topic review - Calling all Royal Navy V-W class fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Royal Navy V-W class fans  Reply with quote
Hello all;

My grandfather was Chief Stoker on HMS Wren when she was sunk in July 1940.

I'm an aircraft modeler dipping my toe into ship modelling and this will be my first attempt at the craft.

I am aware of the requirements for updated bridge etc. for those ships refitted between the wars but I don't know if Wren was refitted and to what configuration?

There's not a lot of pics on the web that I can find on Wren, and nothing I can ascertain a date. I'd like to build her as she was in 1940 and hope someone can point me in the right direction or provide guidance on her configuration then.

Cheers;
Mark.
Post Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:15 pm
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Thanks a lot Brett - Yes, very elusive to get just the right photos, but those do help.
I ordered the Roberts book and hopefully that along with the Man o' War book will suffice- fingers crossed!
Best
Paul in SF aka Solo
Roberts book didn't have anything helpful. Oh well.....
Post Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:56 pm
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Solomo, I have checked for Wolverine plans but pinpointing them is elusive.
You may find what you seek in `British warship plans` by John Roberts, you could also try Greenwich museum.
I could not find at Greenwich specifically what you are looking for, but that does not mean they do not have them, but it will most certainly cost you.
You mentioned in your earlier post before editing, that you have Man o war Vol 2` the images and foldout by Roberts within should be ample for your needs.

The bridge of Wolverine and her lantern appear straightforward, her compass platform layout would be pretty much standard to other V/W`s.
She had a FM12 DF loop antenna mounted on forward bridge bracket, and a 240/241 IFF Interrogator on her port compass platform corner.
Her port bridgewing appears to mount 2 Schermuly signal rocket launchers


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:00 pm
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Maustralia, are you `guest` several entries back? if so, good to see you are now a registered member.
I can most definitely help you with your enquires, please contact me via my inbox.
Post Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:41 pm
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Brett I'm completely new to scale modelling a quick read of this thread has already indicated to me that I have a lot to learn. My intent is to build two models. One as a diaroma of voyager beached at Betano and the other of her prior to leaving Darwin on that mission.
Post Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:14 am
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Brett Morrow wrote:
Vampire would have had corticene applied to her decks before declaration, but it is almost a certainty that it had been removed before mid 40. It is worthy of note that corticene came in several different colours, not just brown.
Traffic areas were laid usually with coconut matting.



Thanks !
Post Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:09 pm
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Vampire would have had corticene applied to her decks before declaration, but it is almost a certainty that it had been removed before mid 40. It is worthy of note that corticene came in several different colours, not just brown.
Traffic areas were laid usually with coconut matting.


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:27 pm
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Would the Vampire have had Corticene decks at all, like some RN destroyers?

thanks
Mike
Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:13 pm
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Exactly what information on Voyager is it that you seek guest?
It will be excellent if you can scan and post those photos within his collection, very much look forward to seeing them.
Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:02 am
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hi, new member here. was looking for information on HMAS Voyager in her 1942 configuration and a quick read here indicates that i have a lot to learn. my late Grandfather was a crewman on Voyager when she was scuttled at betano bay. i have recently come into possession of some of his wartime photos and wish to build a model of both Voyager and HMAS burdekin which he served on as well.in the album there are photos of Voyager in the pacific theatre, some in action and others at various ports or anchorages. i will endeavour to provide scans of them in the near future.
Post Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:24 am
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Hi all:
Does anyone know of a source for drawings of HMS Wolverine - the famous WW2 V&W? Looking for details of bridge area and 271 installation.
Image
Best
Paul
Post Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:40 pm
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Thanks Brett,
Great photo of the twin tube assembly. I should be able to modify the triple tubes in the kit. Photos of the stern are very helpful, looks like paravanes on deck in one. I will assume she carried pennant F29 in the Baltic Campaign, 1918-19 period. Is there a depth charge thrower forward of the X gun platform or am I imagining it?
Thanks again for the photos and info.
Doug Fritz
Post Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:12 pm
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RN Pennant listing indicates that at the time of commissioning in 1917 her pennant was FA3, F29 was introduced 1919.
Whether the pennant was painted on her sides in 1917 is unknown to me, I have seen no images to verify.
She was fitted with 4 single DC cradles, she was not fitted at that time with paravane retractable gantries.
Whether she actually carried paravanes in 1917, you will have to consider from photo reference.
She was fitted with 2 twin TT tubes sets.


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Post Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:55 pm
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I have obtained the Showcase Models HMS Vendetta kit and want to build it as fitted in late 1918 during the Baltic Campaign. Is the kit configuration correct or must I make some changes. From reading the Man O' War volume on the V and W class destroyers, it seems that Vendetta as built was fitted with two twin torpedo tubes which should be easy to convert from the triples. I am wondering about the minesweeping configuration. Was she fitted with the paravanes as provided? I haven't seen any photos of the V class with that configuration. Was she fitted instead with a depth charge rack rather than the four individual charges? Also, did she carry the code "F29" or "FA3" in the Baltic?
Thanks,
Doug
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:59 pm
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Thanks Brett, certainly of interest, your posts are helping me get my stern area sorted out!. Please keep them coming,
cheers, Will
Post Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:02 pm
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A piece of extra info, perhaps English Gunner and others may find of interest, some may already know.
The squat floats pointed earlier in the thread, were called `Depressor Paravanes`

The K,L,N`s , and any class rigged for TSDS carried at least one of these depressors, similar in design to the attachment.
With TSDS sweep, high speed paravanes were carried (total different design to normal paravanes) and the depressor was fitted via slip block arrangement between both sweep lines and maintained the 2 sweep lines at a predetermined depth.

In the case of V/W`s and any other destroyer class which operated the stern/qtrdeck paravane retractable gantries, a depressor was fitted to each sweep line.
The V-W`s operated normal speed sweep paravanes.


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:31 pm
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Brilliant, but my kingdom for a sharper image!!!
cheers, Will
Post Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:39 pm
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All mine sweeping equipment landed very early 1940.
After crosschecking all available reference, what looks like a storage box fitted on Waterhen`s gunhouse apron, may in fact be Smoke Pots.
No images of sufficient clarity exist, but it is highly likely they were, identical to those shown in cropped image of Vendetta`s gunhouse, 3rd quarter of 1940.


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:50 am
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Thanks Brett,
so just to get my head around this, at the time of her sinking, did she have the floats and paravanes?. It looks very bare on the stern area - I cant see any paravanes in the sinking photographs,
cheers, Will
Post Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:43 am
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A correction to my previous post, after checking my files.
It appears that the paravanes and associated sweep equipment including the floats were indeed still fitted late 39/early 40 after arrival in Med.
A cropped image of Waterhen in Malta.


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