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Topic review - 1/700 Zhemchug
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Just found this excellent photo-

-which whilst being a different mooring buoy

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does fortunately coincide with the line arrangements on my model!

Phew!! ( though it does show clearly that I need to increase the size of my bow-crest!!


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She will appear in the gallery in due course


JB :wave_1:
Post Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:46 am
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Well that last lot on the flags/rigging has been very Interesting.

Thanks for sharing this with us Jim :thanks:
Post Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:38 pm
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Thank you gentlemen for your encouragement!

@ peter!-- am watching with envy your Koreeitz!

@ Tom L-- it was actually your model that spurred my interest in that class of ship...

first came Novik ... and then Zhemchug--all your faultTom ! :thumbs_up_1:

Cheers

JIM B :wave_1:
Post Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:44 pm
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Absolutely fantastic Jim! A real feast for the eyes! (As always!)

An interesting comparison between Jim's complete mastery and OOB can be made here.

I added a partial level of fender wale from stretched sprue, opened up a solid cast compass platform and made anchor beds and a confused shield at the bow, but there's not much else scratched or modified. Those solid-block funnels and ventilators are just...well. :heh:

Congratulations on another stunner, Mr. Baumann; a perfect "ebony" to your Novik's "ivory". :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:41 am
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Thank you Jim for this lecture in how flags could be done properly. :wave_1: This very helpful

@ Frank, I totally agree it is not a question of tools or material you use, if you leave me the most expensive tools or materials I will never reach Jims rigging mastership. :Mad_6:
Sometimes I suspect he has some well trained spiders hidden in his modelling dungeon :big_grin: and leaves us poor fellows fiddling arround with all these lights and heated things burning our riggings. :whistle:

Anyway this Zhemchug is again a Masterpiece, my depest respect Jim :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:06 pm
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Hi, Jim, this is a very interesting building report from you again. The model looks very successful.

:wave_1: Jörg
Post Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:31 am
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Hi all,

Jim asked me to explain what I use for tightening rigging. Being a dentist, I learned some basics of prosthetics technique in dental school, so I am comfortable with some of the tools used there.

I use a small and cheap spirit burner, which should be easily available, plus a dental waxing instrument, a clone of the classic gold-colored PK Thomas #1 or the green #2 (Mr Thomas was a pioneer in dental technology in developing a systematic approach to replicating the occlusal surfaces of teeth, and a set of five color-coded instruments bearing his name was among the first stuff we had to buy in dental school)

An affordable clone of this instrument should be available.

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The image shows the spirits burner plus the #1 instrument, and a Le Cron modeling knife, plus some casting wax I used as a filler in past years.

Heating the waxing instrument with the spirits burner gives me a controllable heat source that can only get colder the longer I handle it, so I´m more comfortable with it than a tool that contantly emits heat.

My poor results in contrast to Jim´s mastery of the subject do prove that success is more in the skills than in the tools, though ...

Kind regards and best of luck from

Frank
Post Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:19 am
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...>> wife is highly sensitive to incense ....<


You need to try and source a low-odour smoke source--( that is tricky! )

or better-- do your rigging in a closed room whilst using a carbon air filter
and leave it running for a while after you have left the room upon completion of the rigging

example http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bionaire-BAP924 ... B003UA1830

or even a carbon air scrubber.

they work well-- I used one in my office back when I still smoked cigarettes....

that way you will get perfect models and a happy wife...


alternatively a hot wax tool( like a small soldering iron)

( Frank Spahr's preferred tool)

http://www.sculpt.com/catalog_98/steelt ... xTools.htm

( some people do use soldering irons--but I think they are clunky--try and get a small low 12 volt cordless soldering iron if you go down that route...


HTH

Jim Baumann
Post Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:43 am
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Wow, thank you, Jim. You have provided more information than I could have possibly hoped for! I'm going to try something like this on my (second attempt) to fully rig my King George V this evening. I ended up setting a portion of the rigging on fire trying to heat tighten it... wife is highly sensitive to incense so I tried to do it from a distance with a light... :heh:
Post Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:51 pm
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The flags are made of paper from a used shop till receipt (!!) which has a nice hard surface finish....

( I leave them on a window sill for a couple of weeks so as to check which are UV resistant --

very important--some cheap till receipt paper can go yellow.... )

I then use a fine blue ballpoint pen to make a series of crosses of the correct angles

I then hold the paper onto the window and trace the crosses thru from the other side.

Cut flags to chosen size- the blue cross is a constant irrespective of size

-(failure rate at cutting is high :big_grin: ) ... I make a lot of blue crosses.... :cool_2:

I then sandwich the flag inside tissue paper

( so as to soften the radius of the creases and also absorb any excess biro ink)

and crumple the flag extensively using very fine pointed tweezers--angling the creases to reflect the weight of the flag and also the angle of the flag-staff in lightish breeze...

( have a look here also at my 1/350 French flags )

quoted from my Bouvet build article page 4

These ensigns were made on thin waxed paper, the white was masked with Tamiya tape--suitably de-tacked so as not to lift the surface of the paper and then coloured with artist water-soluble coloured pencils. When dry the flags were sandwiched in thin tissue paper and the brutal crumpling began.... After four failed attempts the result was to my liking--an Ensign stirred by about 10-15 knots of breeze..

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( have a look here also at my 1/700 French flags )


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and 1/700 Austro-Hungarian flags

see more here:
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... index.html

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Hope it helps

JIM B


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:34 pm
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Jim,

Are the flags printed paper? How did you get them to flutter so naturally? I tend to use white glue + paper but it tends to appear overscale in 1/700.
Post Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:55 am
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There are some limited aspects I might be able to replicate on my own models, but on the whole this is modeling on a whole other level. The flawless and near invisible rigging on these skinny masts simply let my jaw drop, into the depression on my desk created by repeated drops over years of wtinessing your builds, Jim.

Kind regards

Frank
Post Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:20 am
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incredible!

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:01 pm
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back from the ( rigging ) wilderness....! :wave_1:

she is complete at last!- there was a lot of very fine rigging to do on some very very skinny masts...

( :mad_1: :Mad_6: :Mad_5: :mad_2: :censored_2: :lol_3: )


- full photo coverage will be in the gallery in due course.

meanwhile..... here are a few taster shots....

onwards to the new project :thumbs_up_1:


Thank you all for following this build--a link to the gallery will be posted when it appears there ....

Cheers

Jim Baumann


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:24 pm
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Handsome ship and breathtaking medeling technique (yet we start to get used to it now :big_grin: )
:thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:59 am
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Frank Spahr wrote:
.... I´d think you´re from some other planet!.......


Hello

Franck
it may be that just the skin either of a human,and that Under this one ,it is an humanoid :shock:
because, to do something as fine.........that's incredible
congrats Jim ,it is always impressive to see your work :thumbs_up_1:
Cheers
Nicolas
Post Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:27 am
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You never fail to make my jaw drop, Jim!

Excellent work, daringly skinny masts and rigging that lets seasoned spiders pop out all their half-dozen bulging eyes and crawl away in shame.

If I didn´t know you, I´d think you´re from some other planet!

Wishing you all the best for the final phase of the project

Frank
Post Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:03 am
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Dear god... how is that even possible?! :big_eyes:

Simply amazing work!
Post Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:46 pm
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Thank you all for your kind words about my wee boatey!

I liberally scattered some crew members about the decks ( GMM and Eduard)


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Thereafter the flatcoating was uneventful...( phew!) as usual I was using the Galeria varnish I obtained a very flat even and dead smooth surface.
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The rigging is quite challenging-- funnel stays in particular....

Boat falls have been made. as well as the main boom rigging

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The ship will now be at anchor after all !! :big_grin: :cool_2:


a naval review in 1904 ( fortunately I found a photo to verify this scene...! :thumbs_up_1:

....===> mainly so that I can show her with Big Ensigns on all three masts, as well as on the stern,(!!) with the red white and blue ensign on the fwd jack-staff.

( fortunately I found a photo to verify this scene...! :thumbs_up_1:

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I was toying with the idea of dressed overall

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but felt that in modelform it may look a bit clumsy--nay even overwhelming...

aside from the structural issues with the supper skinny top masts



So as to add some interest to the scene I have placed a rowing gig idling about the accommodation ladder ( waiting for the 'brass to return?)-with the crew engaged in fending her off using a boat spar- no big deal ...as the are on the leeward side...

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Rigging is not an activity that lends itself well to posting on--so there may be radio silence for a day or six....


Regards

JIM B :wave_1:
Post Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:24 pm
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The fidelity of the details is amazing. One of the best you've ever done, Jim.
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