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Topic review - 1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Build.
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Any updates?

Mick
Tumut Australia
Post Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:15 pm
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Nice work on the Tirpitz guys!
Post Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:44 am
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Brilliant!
Post Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:51 am
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Thanks for the nice compliments, guys! :big_grin: :big_grin:
We found ourselves some pretty nice hours of modelling yesterday as we were dropped at a parents' friend's condo room with a nice view of Bangkok metropolitan area.

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Progress with the screws continues, with a light coat of X-12 Gold Leaf:

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X-11 Chrome Silver is used to make scratches and worn out effect:

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Next, the same X-33 Bronze was carefully drybrushed to replicate slight cavitation damage:

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Brushing slight orange and green tints for rust effect finished the job:

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Dryfitted:

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This is my first try at painting screws, so hope they look good enough. :big_grin:
I'll post more later...it's morning modelling hour in a very long time, so we'll have to make it worth!

Cheers!

Aur
Post Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:33 pm
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Boy the screws look great! You have done a great job overall!
Post Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:14 pm
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She is looking fantastic and those screws are great :thumbs_up_1: Glad to see you are finding time to get back at it. Looking forward to more updates :wave_1:
Post Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:02 pm
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Hello all :wave_1:

It's been unbelievably 5 months since we last posted! We have not made much progress since then, as a result of getting busy with practising and the tiring incomplete process of university admission. :dead: :dead:
Anyway, something got done during the leftover time, and I'll start with the 3D printed screws first.
https://www.shapeways.com/product/E2H86 ... -screw-set
They were designed in 1/200 by a designer going by the name lonenwalze, before I requested him a rescaled 1/350 version, uploaded on my shop above. They were printed in Frosted Extreme Detail plastic, so the surface is quite smooth, although sanding is necessary in some areas. We are very happy with how they look, and in this scale I can safely say there is no better.

These are photos of the product out-of-box:

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After treatment in warm soapy water:

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A coat of Tamiya primer:

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Then some sanding of various grids, with such great care it took a whole week to complete!

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Another coat of Tamiya TS-6 Matt Black:

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Here's the final picture after Tamiya X-33 Bronze airbrushing.

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Notice the changing background; that's because these are considered small "mobile" projects that I carry with most of the time, even when going outside! Nice bit of modelling when the time is limited.
Last work will be a coat of X-12 Gold Leaf, leaving some tiny areas in bronze. Whethering will be done after that.

Hopefully I'll be able to make more progress and post tomorrow.

Cheers,

Aur
Post Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:48 am
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Thanks, Rob!
Looking forward to your Tirpitz project as well!

:thumbs_up_1:
Aur
Post Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:21 pm
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Looking forward to seeing this build progress....

re. piano pic.....you guys are real artists...
Post Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:07 pm
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:cool_1:
Aop modified the main hangar using the (blurry) Gally plan with a little help from Kagero 3D model video.

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The small piece with vent details was carved into that:
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The admiral checking in..

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Practising time! :headphones_2:

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Then a week ago, we made a diorama for our mom's birthday. Still not finished.

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And...how things look like as of now.

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The searchlight platform railing was modified to taper outwards, as another difference of the two sisters in many places.

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Main hangar, still incomplete. The hangar door details were made using stretched sprue.

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Signal bridge.

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Upper superstructure.

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The foretop platform will need to be modified or scratch-built.
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Eduard's 2 cm SK C/38 Flak. The guns were detached before positioning to maintain a correct axis for elevated ones. Not as good as Flyhawk, but much better than Tamiya anyway.

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A pic from one of the concerts. The 10ft Fazioli was huge!

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Cheers,
Aur
Post Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:20 am
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:wave_1:

We've been busy with concerts and daily works, so we didn't have time to do any update. It has been 2 months since the new Eduard set arrived, but not so much progress was made. Anyway this is a big update from many weeks' progress, so hope you enjoy the pics.

Started off with the Admiral's bridge, I attempted to cut the windows hollow when the roof was already glued, and it ended a mess. Started again using a new part from another spare kit, I cut before attaching the pieces together. The nasty seam appears, as on every other models, so after some filling and sanding it looked acceptable...but certainly not the best. There's no 3rd spare kit, so... :heh: Some days of sanding (during concert week), and then I moved on to detailing. Tamiya's simple 3-metre rangefinders were attached inside Eduard's PE, which is probably incorrect in shape, but I'm not interested in fixing. Ship vessels handrails replaced Eduard's solid shields aft of the directors. I didn't notice that Pontos supplied wooden deck for the area, but it was better to just paint. Then after realising the big error of the tower (?), Pontos deck won't fit anyway. Planking was hand-drawn with a pen.

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The error was the Bismarck-shape structure.

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For Bismarck, it should actually be only half, on the starboard, merging with a shorter rectangular structure on port side. Tirpitz had asymetrical one, according to (very low resolution) Gally plans from the internet. I cut the piece off and extended the curved wall as well as trimming the incorrect 'footprint'.

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The 'cabin':

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Almost 3 weeks ago, we had a small trip to the beach with the family, and didn't forget to take the Tirpitz there! Fragile parts were mounted in a box, and we made sure nothing will get damaged...

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..and all went well.

I bought Flyhawk 3.7 cm SK C/30 Flak sets, as Tamiya ones were crap and Eduard didn't provide any. I was unsure of my ability to assemble them, but the first one turned out not too bad.

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Aur
Post Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:57 am
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Froggy84 wrote:
Hi Aur,
Good work on fixing the bow, it looks so much better now. :thumbs_up_1:
I guess you guys are going to be so busy now that the Eduard set has arrived :big_grin:
Good luck!
Regards,
Phil

Thanks Phil! At least some people might not recognize that it is a Tamiya kit! (What else, then?) :heh: Now work on the Lion is halted for a while, maybe until the 3D printed parts arrive...
Good luck with your build(s) as well! :thumbs_up_1:
Aur
Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:29 am
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Hi Aur,
Good work on fixing the bow, it looks so much better now. :thumbs_up_1:
I guess you guys are going to be so busy now that the Eduard set has arrived :big_grin:
Good luck!
Regards,
Phil
Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:06 am
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The new Eduard set finally arrived! We were excited that this set is brass and not metal like the previous one.
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Now back to the bench! :cool_1:

Aop
Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:53 am
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:wave_1:
So continuing on the bow...

Another pic from last night:
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It was way too rough for a shapable putty, but I was rushing to bed. At least I made sure there's enough for later sanding. :heh:
Rough sanding with a file and coarse sandpaper:

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Then fine sanding. I always use water during all sanding process (with any type of sandpaper!) to minimize dust..milliput is much easier to sand with water, too, in my opinion.

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After some time searching for a good bow shot of Tirpitz, I found many pics of her fjord anchorages on worldwarphotos.info, with many close-ups...
http://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/germany/kriegsmarine/tirpitz/battleship_Tirpitz_Norway.jpg
Using John Asmussen's drawings, I located the hole and drilled:
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At least the stupid solid heated plastic helped forming the hawse pipe. :heh:

After shaping...
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...and painted:

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And...finally..a comparison with another Tamiya hull:

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The shape is not exact, as no plans were used (in the end the styrene piece attached was too small, and was only used to hold the putty. Comparison with John's drawing by eyes was all), but should be "Tirpitz" enough and hopefully better than before. At least, the bow is sharper, straighter, and smoother. Some small cracks will be fixed later.
The spare anchor was detached from the ship at the time she was in Kåfjord, so there's just the hawse.

So now that I am done with the bow, I will probably be working on the diorama, until the Eduard set arrives. Lots of 3D designing for the Lion right now.

Thanks for looking in :big_grin:
Aur
Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:38 am
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Here is an update on the bow.
Almost 2 years ago, I was fixing the tip of the bow that was accidentally broken by my brother. I don't know what I was thinking at that moment, but I had an unusually strange idea of putting heated plastic sprues right onto the bow to roughly form the missing shape (!?!!?!!) :heh: It was terribly difficult to sand (burnt plastic gets really hard, and turns into almost unusable crap) and can very easily break. I had to sand it for almost a week, and glue the keep-breaking-off piece several times. The almost acceptable (!) bow tip stayed there til now.
Some shots of the badly fixed bow:

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Note the rough surface and also the Bismarck style curve.

Several days ago, I happen to think of getting the bow done by making the stem anchor hawse. One thought came immediately into my mind, that this mess doesn't deserve anything. Plus, I already know most of the differences between Bis and Pitz, so I decided to modify the bow before making the hole. First off, I measure the other untouched hull I have, and it was a little bit too short, but okay, for the Bismarck (Tamiya hulls are all same), so obviously undersized for the Tirpitz, whose length was 3.1 m longer (according to John's website). I didn't want to change much, since I have no detailed plans, nor does the kit deserve. Just a simple correction for a more straight bow.

Styrene cut from printed John Asmussen drawings, attached to the hull:

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Milliput applied roughly:

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Some more sanding and it should look better.

Cheers,
Aur
Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:04 pm
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Hello all! :wave_1:

We were working on the HMS Lion as this project was being on hold, but then thought we should continue getting the Tirpitz done first. The Eduard set is still on its way to our place, so while waiting, we decided to work on the seabase and diorama. First of all, we will depict the ship as she was in Håkøya, Tromsø. The ship was located close to the shore, but not enough for a typical sized base (like those depicting her Faettenfjord and Altafjord). We are going with a rather large sea base that includes the ship (of course), a bit of the shore, some piers, and the entire torpedo netting! Here's a map made by the great Bismarck/Tirpitz guru Antonio Bonomi:
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It's 1/350 scale, so here is what we are preparing. This is Antonio's map and everything inside the square drawn will be included. From the map, the ship was positioned about 24.5 degrees from the shore. I wouldn't mind if this is correct or not, as it is just a diorama. And this Japanese Queen is not accurate anyway (!)... But I would assume Antonio got it very close, if not exact :smallsmile: :
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So...that is about 120cm × 120cm in 1/350 scale:
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Aop used Mini hobby Tirpitz kit's waterline plate to draw and cut the hole for the ship, but miserably, even though it is a copy of the Tamiya, the hull shape is completely different! (even at the atlantic bow..I wonder how they made it..) Huge gaps there! Maybe filling with foam or expanding foam will do the job. We don't really want to permanently mount the ship on the water, but there could be problems with putting in and off, along with an unrealistic gap at the waterline. So we'll simply put her there, and let the water hold. The Tirpitz hull pictured here is from another Tamiya kit I have.
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We had to talk to our mom if she's OK with the size of the seabase...seriously :heh: :heh: :big_grin:
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As said, we are going to use Chris Flodberg's water techniques for this one. I must thank him very much for sharing his exquisite and cost-effective techniques! :thumbs_up_1: We may consider adding some vehicles on the island as well. If you look at the area in the square, there is a portion of the road. It sure is going to be really fun! At least for the two of us!

Pics of the hull will follow soon. I've done a bit at the bow, improving something that was done about 2 years ago when I was 12! I might be able to dig some photos taken back then. :cool_1:

Cheers!
Aur
Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:24 am
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Just won a new Eduard set bid and placed order! Once this set arrives, we will be continuing, and hopefully finishing this build. Then onto the diorama... :heh: thoughts and advice as well as critiques are very welcome.

Aop
Post Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:16 am
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Froggy84 wrote:
Hi Aop & Aur,
I agree with Bob, congratulations on a wonderful job. You are both very talented and seeing your two builds has also encouraged me to keep working on mine. I stalled for a while but I hope to post my ship soon.
Good luck with the models and best wishes with your piano work.
Regards,
Phil

Thank you very much for your very kind comment! It really means a lot to us! I hope you post your ship progress and photos soon as well!

As said, our concert was over, but we are going to the venue again (a place with five 9 ft concert grand pianos! :cool_1: ) to re-record our performances, as the camera ran out of memory on the concert day. When this is done, we will post some Youtube links for some of you here that may like Classical music.... :big_grin: :thumbs_up_1:

Thanks to everyone following and commenting on our builds!
:thanks: :worship_1:
Aop & Aur
Post Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:07 am
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Hi Aop & Aur,
I agree with Bob, congratulations on a wonderful job. You are both very talented and seeing your two builds has also encouraged me to keep working on mine. I stalled for a while but I hope to post my ship soon.
Good luck with the models and best wishes with your piano work.
Regards,
Phil
Post Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:56 am

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